For all those who enjoy shooting sports, don't make the mistake of buying Winchester brand ammo. Last week I purchased both 9mm and 22 mag ammo from a local Walmart and it was so fouled up that I would not even shoot it much less carry it for self defence. Bent cases, bullets not seated properly and duds just to name a few of the problems. The 9mm ammo caused misfeeds, and failed to eject from the pistol several times. The 9mm cases were too far out of round and seized up in the chamber. The brass cases were most likely too thin and warped when fired. Walmart, the lovely people they are, said it was my problem and that I had to take it up with Winchester. Winchester has no contact info and when I did locate a number for East Alton Il, they did not answer the phones. Just a bunch of automated phone crap that leads you nowhere. Federal, Remington and CCI are all good.