BigShell Posted January 30, 2008 #1 Posted January 30, 2008 I've been using 1 1/2" risers for a year now. I like the setup better than stock, but it still isn't quite what I want. I've thought about the G2's, but they are the same height as stock and I think I like the height the risers give me (I'm 6' 2"). I thought about putting the G2s on the risers. 1 1/2" more height and 2" more pull back. I would prefer to get rid of the risers, but that setup might give me what I want. Then I looked at the RSTD stock bars. 2" more in Height and 2 1/2" more pull back... and no risers. They are 2" wider also. Do they use the same bar weights? Here are the specs: [font=Arial] Height Width Pull Back Center RSV 6" 31" 14" 7.5" G2 6" 31.5" 16" 6" RSTD 8" 33" 16.5" 8" [/font] I'm thinking I would need to go 4" over on throttle cables, upper front brake hose and upper clutch hose. If I decided I didn't like it, would the extra hose/cable length be a problem if I left them on but went back to G2 or stock+risers? Anyone got a set of RSTD stock bars for cheap? I would like to throw a set on just to see how they look and feel on the bike before I lay out the money for cables and hoses. Any thoughts?
Freebird Posted January 30, 2008 #2 Posted January 30, 2008 I don't know if the weights are the same but they sure look to be and I would bet that they would work. Interesting idea you have there. I didn't realize that they were that much different. I have seen a few people post about changing them to the Flanders bars....now I wonder why.
Tom Posted January 30, 2008 #3 Posted January 30, 2008 Big Shell,The bar weights are the same. I dont know if the fairing will allow the immediate width of the RSTD bars though?
Gene-b Posted January 30, 2008 #4 Posted January 30, 2008 If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the 1 1/2" risers? I have a friend that is looking for somthing like that for his 2002 Venture.
BuddyRich Posted January 30, 2008 #5 Posted January 30, 2008 Hope this helps Venture http://parts.yamaha-motor.com/partimage.gifx?d=94492,1,0 RSTD http://parts.yamaha-motor.com/partimage.gifx?d=94379,1,0
Ferrantelli Posted January 31, 2008 #6 Posted January 31, 2008 If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the 1 1/2" risers? I have a friend that is looking for somthing like that for his 2002 Venture. There are a couple of places but I think BARON has the better price. http://baronscustom.com/images/products/20070111183114.jpg http://baronscustom.com/catalog/display/777/index.html?PHPSESSID=9a6cb3c3f51c9e98a4938b19132eded8
Ferrantelli Posted January 31, 2008 #7 Posted January 31, 2008 As far as the Hanlebars this is what a knowledgeable rider from the Star Touring e-mailed me. Yes, the RSTD handlebars fit without extending any of the hydraulic lines. I changed to the Flanders handlebars with the Road Glide bend. They have further pullback than the RSTD bars, and must have 2" longer hydraulic lines. Handlebars have three measurements, height, width, and pullback, other than the diameter of the bar itself. Stock Venture: Height 6"; width 31"; pullback 14" RSTD: Height 8"; width 33"; pullback 16-1/2" Road Glide bend: Height 6"; width 31.5"; pullback 16" I'm only 5' 8". I did not want the 33" wide handlebar, adding a full inch to each side. It sticks out past the sides of the fairing, putting your hands into the wind. It's also 2 inches higher. Again, that's something I don't need, because of my height. As you can see, the Road Glide bend only adds a 1/4 inch width to each end of the handlebar, but adds two inches of pullback at the same height. Logically, it would seem to me that you could change to either handlebar and reroute the hydraulic lines and it will work fine. I opted to go with stainless braided lines, for the braking performance. Ventures could use much stronger brakes. The electrical wiring has plenty of slack, so you don't need to worry about that. If you know of anyone with a RSTD, try sitting on it. The handlebar was too wide for me. In any case, the bottom line becomes a personal choice. I am going with the Flanders and longer hoses & cable kit.
BigShell Posted January 31, 2008 Author #8 Posted January 31, 2008 Gene - GenMar is the other brand riser. I believe I went with Barons. Tom - I hope you're right on the bar weights. The drawings Buddy posted look a little different, but maybe the nut in the bar is the same on both and will except the Venture ends. Center width is only 1/2" larger on the RSTD and the clamp specs are the same on both bars. Another reason to find a bargain and test fit them though. Thanks for the drawings Buddy. I'm not in a big hurry on this. If anyone has a set of RSTD bars they don't want or if you see some on ebay, let me know, please. If that doesn't happen, maybe I'll find a vendor with a good return policy so all it will cost me is shipping if they don't work out.
BigShell Posted January 31, 2008 Author #9 Posted January 31, 2008 As far as the Hanlebars this is what a knowledgeable rider from the Star Touring e-mailed me. Yes, the RSTD handlebars fit without extending any of the hydraulic lines. I changed to the Flanders handlebars with the Road Glide bend. They have further pullback than the RSTD bars, and must have 2" longer hydraulic lines. Handlebars have three measurements, height, width, and pullback, other than the diameter of the bar itself. Stock Venture: Height 6"; width 31"; pullback 14" RSTD: Height 8"; width 33"; pullback 16-1/2" Road Glide bend: Height 6"; width 31.5"; pullback 16" I'm only 5' 8". I did not want the 33" wide handlebar, adding a full inch to each side. It sticks out past the sides of the fairing, putting your hands into the wind. It's also 2 inches higher. Again, that's something I don't need, because of my height. As you can see, the Road Glide bend only adds a 1/4 inch width to each end of the handlebar, but adds two inches of pullback at the same height. Logically, it would seem to me that you could change to either handlebar and reroute the hydraulic lines and it will work fine. I opted to go with stainless braided lines, for the braking performance. Ventures could use much stronger brakes. The electrical wiring has plenty of slack, so you don't need to worry about that. If you know of anyone with a RSTD, try sitting on it. The handlebar was too wide for me. In any case, the bottom line becomes a personal choice. I am going with the Flanders and longer hoses & cable kit. If the G2 Flanders need longer cables and lines, how can the RSTD with 2" more height and and 1/2" more pullback than the Flanders get by with stock? Just sitting on an RSTD might help get a feel for the width, but is the place where they mount have the same relative position to the seat as on the Venture? I don't think the width will be a problem. I often ride with my hands out on the weights.
Freebird Posted January 31, 2008 #10 Posted January 31, 2008 I was just reading and then getting ready to post the same comment about the cables and brake lines. It's been many years since I studied Geometry but that doesn't make sense to me either. I don't see how you could get by without the longer cables and etc.
Gene-b Posted January 31, 2008 #11 Posted January 31, 2008 Thanks All for your information, I will get all of this to my friend today. I told him about this site, he rides a 2002 Venture. I know, it used to be mine!
Ferrantelli Posted February 2, 2008 #12 Posted February 2, 2008 If the G2 Flanders need longer cables and lines, how can the RSTD with 2" more height and and 1/2" more pullback than the Flanders get by with stock? Just sitting on an RSTD might help get a feel for the width, but is the place where they mount have the same relative position to the seat as on the Venture? I don't think the width will be a problem. I often ride with my hands out on the weights. I agree. It seams that some are able to use the old hoses and cable while others have some kind of problems, and that is with either risers or different bars. I think if you are willing to spent the time while inside the fairing snip some of the ties/cableholders and do some rerouting the original stuff can work. But if you are not then there may be a problem withcable binding ect.. I personally what to use the flanders G2 for these reasons: they have the same rise they have a 2" further reach can use original fairing dampers with no modifications only 1/2" wider insignificat 1/4" on each side I can mount original grips with the treaded bushing they have the same knurl space as the Venture bars once install with the longer hoses and cables look as if nothing was ever done
BigShell Posted February 2, 2008 Author #13 Posted February 2, 2008 Found a place I can get OEM RSTD bars for under $90. They have a replacement part # so I wrote the vendor to make sure the center/height/width/pullback and end weight attachments are the same and to ask what if anything did change. Also asked about shipping cost. Could be an oversize item. If nothing significant has changed, and shipping isn't too outrageous, I'll probably order them. I'll mount them up too get a general feel. See how much extra hose and cable length I need. Lock to lock comes close to my abs now... want to see what the extra pullback does. And yes... I have abs... maybe not 6 packs... more like keg... or maybe barrel! If they don't work for me, I see on another forum that some V1100 guys have changed to the RSTD bars. Maybe I can sell them and not take too big a hit.
Guest black knight Posted February 27, 2008 #14 Posted February 27, 2008 I just ordered the Flanders bars and complete line set, I think it is money well spent, from what I have read here; many people have made the change and are happy with the result. Patrick:)
BigShell Posted February 28, 2008 Author #15 Posted February 28, 2008 Got everything ordered for the RSTD bars. We'll see how they feel. The hoses and cables will work with RSTD or Flanders G2 so I can change my mind for not a lot more money.
ransom Posted February 28, 2008 #16 Posted February 28, 2008 I just installed Barrons risers and i had to re route my throttle cables,thru the tree it was a lesson learned since i had put them on and was ready to go and DUHHHH,dident check to see if the throttle was sticking.I went in and cut some ties first but it was no help.after the re route things seem good to go now :confused24:I assumed no re routing was needed oh well thats what i get for that have a blessed day all
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