Dragonslayer Posted November 11, 2008 #1 Posted November 11, 2008 GeorgeS and I were discussing my current and reoccuring draggin starter problem. He mentioned that he remembered someone posting that they had used a solenoid from a small foriegn car to replace the oem solenoid that comes on the 1st Gens. But, he did not remember the details of which car the starter came off of. The problem is that the stock solenoids don't seem to hold up very well and the cost of new replacements from yamaha run close to $80.00. Using the car solenoids was considerably cheaper with a heavier duty solenoid. The question is does anyone remember the name of the post or by who the post was made that had the details of this solenoid mod?
dray Posted November 11, 2008 #2 Posted November 11, 2008 id say the best way is to just take it in to a parts store and ask for one close to it I have done this with cars snowmobiles tractors and small engines there all close to the same thing heck i have even used one off a meyers snowplow to get a truck going till i could get to town then put the new one on the plow
FreezyRider Posted November 11, 2008 #3 Posted November 11, 2008 GeorgeS and I were discussing my current and reoccuring draggin starter problem. He mentioned that he remembered someone posting that they had used a solenoid from a small foriegn car to replace the oem solenoid that comes on the 1st Gens. But, he did not remember the details of which car the starter came off of. The problem is that the stock solenoids don't seem to hold up very well and the cost of new replacements from yamaha run close to $80.00. Using the car solenoids was considerably cheaper with a heavier duty solenoid. The question is does anyone remember the name of the post or by who the post was made that had the details of this solenoid mod? Can you use one of these as a replacement? I know that a lot of Goldwingers replace the expensive Honda solenoid with something like this. Joe
93 venture Posted November 11, 2008 #4 Posted November 11, 2008 Bob i think i have one in my toolbox at work you can have. I would say its a little bigger that the one you have on your bike now,but you wont burn it out,its for a cummins starter. let me know, i will look for it tonight when i go to work.
Rottdoglover Posted November 11, 2008 #5 Posted November 11, 2008 FORD solenoid works great on about anything needing big amps. You just need enough room to mount it. I've done this on everything from Briggs to Honda to IH diesel. $15 beats the heck outa $85. Also have had some luck taking originals apart and cleaning contacts.
Gearhead Posted November 11, 2008 #6 Posted November 11, 2008 Hey Dragonslayer, Have you checked the voltage drop from the battery positive to the starter lug while cranking? I ask because in my case the starter would drag but this check showe no appreciable drop so I know the solenoid was not the culprit. I just got mine back on the road, and one of the things I did was an internal grounding upgrade to the starter, as recommended by a Vmax website courtesy of Squeeze. So far it's working well, but it's biggest problem before was hot restarts and I haven't really put it to the test. Jeremy
Squeeze Posted November 12, 2008 #7 Posted November 12, 2008 You could simply connect one Lead of your DMM on one Post of the Solenoid and the other lead on the other Post, select 2 Volt DC on the DMM and hit the Starter Button. If there is a internal Voltage Drop, you can read it on the DMM while starting.
Dragonslayer Posted November 12, 2008 Author #8 Posted November 12, 2008 Can you use one of these as a replacement? I know that a lot of Goldwingers replace the expensive Honda solenoid with something like this. JoeI'm sorry the link took me to the home page of the vendor. Do you know of a particular item that they sell that you are suggesting.
Dragonslayer Posted November 12, 2008 Author #9 Posted November 12, 2008 You could simply connect one Lead of your DMM on one Post of the Solenoid and the other lead on the other Post, select 2 Volt DC on the DMM and hit the Starter Button. If there is a internal Voltage Drop, you can read it on the DMM while starting.Copy that
FreezyRider Posted November 12, 2008 #10 Posted November 12, 2008 I'm sorry the link took me to the home page of the vendor. Do you know of a particular item that they sell that you are suggesting. Here you go: BWD Automotive Solenoid Starter Switch Part Number S63. $17.99
Dragonslayer Posted November 12, 2008 Author #11 Posted November 12, 2008 Here you go: BWD Automotive Solenoid Starter Switch Part Number S63. $17.99Thanks, Freezy
Ivan Posted November 21, 2008 #12 Posted November 21, 2008 some where, I can't remember where, I was told that a solenoid off a datsun B210 may work, as it is relatively small. I cant confirm this, as I haven't done it. From what I can tell, the solenoid from a Yamaha Rhino is the same as well. I did a search on ebay for yamaha starter solenoid and yamaha starter relay and found a new one that should work well, but I can't remember what it is from. It was less than $20 with shipping. Also, there were lots of adds for a knock off replacement for $6 or so, but it was a plastic one. Might not hurt ot get three or four and carry a spare. Just some ideas
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