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1984 Wouldn't start
Snaggletooth replied to bkupmstr's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
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1984 Wouldn't start
Snaggletooth replied to bkupmstr's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I can't help you on the draining the tank completely as I haven't done that on a VR but I sounds like you fighting some nasty old gas. The fuel filter is on the left side of the bike down low. Pull off the left side panel and you will see the fuel pump at the very bottom. The fuel filter is behind that. The forward side (input) is fed from the siphon line form the tank. There is a sort loop off the rear of the filter that goed to the pump. If is hasn't been replaced there is a red braided line that runs off the pump to the carbs. I'd pull the the red line off and run an extension line to a gas can and let the pump run the tank down as far as it can. I'm sure someone will have something better here in a bit. As far as the rust, there are ways to treat it and clean the tank but the tank will have to come out. I've used Evaporust? a couple of times on other projects and it does well. If you chose not to treat I'd drain the tank, flush with fresh fuel, replace the fuel filter and lines and then load the tank up with a couple of gallons of fresh gas and at least half a can of SeaFoam. Switch it on and off a few times to let the pump refill the lines and carbs. Open the drains on the bowls and let the mix run through. Let it sit over night. Do this for a few days. Sitting in the bowls is the best way for the SeaFoam to do what it does. It takes time. I did with with a bike that sat for 9 years and got her running this way. To be honest, it worked, and I got it running but I ended up doing a full carb rebuild this year to make things right. Rust can be a pain and most will tell you that none is the best. I agree with that. The best defense is fuel treatments and a clean filter to keep the particles out of the carbs. I just did some work on an old XJ bike and the owner said he'd drained the tank. When I looked in it was rusty mess. Flakes falling off the sides. I pulled the tank and turned it over and poured out the rest of the gas, maybe a quart. But out of that quart about a half a cup of it was water. No treament in the world will take care of that. He's using a rust remover and sealer this week to clean her up. So that's my 2 cents. -
I got my CarbTune through California Sport Touring. ( casporttouring.com ) It took about two weeks to receive it but I have no regrets. Be the last sync tool I ever buy. With the case and shipping it was about $130.00.
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Anyone ever take the motorcycle safety course
Snaggletooth replied to Mariner Fan's topic in Watering Hole
Hey I was gonna ask. Did they throw in doing the weave and offset weave only using your right hand? Left hand in your lap. They were trying to make the point of pressing in a turn. Now that was a challenge, idling through the cones one handed. Never tried that before. Hell, it's hard enough lighting a smoke at 75! LOL!- 31 replies
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Anyone ever take the motorcycle safety course
Snaggletooth replied to Mariner Fan's topic in Watering Hole
Took the ERC a few weeks ago. Rode the VR. It's hard to get into here as they only take 36 riders a year. Got in after a cancellation. I felt like I was on a monster bike compared to all the crotch rockets that came. It was 7 hours on the track in the heat, the rain, the wind and the lightening. They didn't coddle to the fair weather riders that's for sure. If ya quit, ya took it over. A few bikes went down in the sweepers and a few took some damage. I was proud that the old girl and I made it through with no scratches or scrapes. It was a great experience and well worth the time and money spent. It brought my bad habits to light and helped tune in some new skills. I wish I'd had time to practice the "Ride Like a Pro" techniques before I went. The skills taught on that DVD would have been a huge plus in the ERC class. That 20 ft box with the double u-turns inside would have been a lot easier. LOL!- 31 replies
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Living in Omaha, NE you don't see a lot of deer around town but the other day I got a surprise and so did about 100 other drivers. I was on the VR riding West on I-80 coming up on the downtown interchange of I-480 at about 4:30 PM. Just the beginning of rush hour. There are about 5 lanes each way counting ramps for Hwy 75, I-80 and I-480. It's the pretzel from hell at rush hour. From the North a nice sized buck came down from the residential area and shot out into the WB lanes of I-80, danced around into the middle lanes then turned West and ran with traffic for about 100 yards, turned South again and jumped the concrete center divider and ran head on into traffic on the EB side until he worked his way to the shoulder and shot off into another residential area. He made it. However there were a few sideswipes going on from the cagers gawking at the pretty deer. I got out of it fine but I was tasting my undies when I got back into the clear. Deer: 1 Cagers: 0 Pucker Factor: 95%
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Bobcat, Thank you for understanding. Mr. T used to say "Pity the Fool". Snaggletooth says "Why? Watch what he does next". Later Mike
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I had been trying to get into the Experienced Riders Course here in Omaha for the last two years. They only take 36 riders a year and only 12 to a class. I didn't make it again this year so I ordered the Ride Like a Pro DVD instead. As soon as I ordered it I got a call from the ERC/MSF instructor saying there had been a cancellation and they had an open slot only 3 days away. I was in. On the day of the class the DVD arrived 15 minutes before I was leaving. I wish I'd had time to watch it before I left. The class itself was exceptional and well worth the time and money invested. Seven hours on the track practicing low speed moves and handling tips. They just brushed over things like the friction technique and the stop to stop turns. I was happy to make it though the class without dropping it. Some of the other riders took some damage. I went home and started watching segments of the DVD and making a point of spending at least a couple of hours week practicing them. I stole, er, borrowed my daughters small orange cones she and her friends use when skateboarding and wander off the the high school parking lot. Got my turns down to less than 18 feet and working on the dip which really it the key to the tight turn set up. Working at the friction technique is a challenge but it gives me a huge sense of control I've never had in all the years I've ridden. I was taught at a young age that the clutch was either engaged or not. No middle ground. That was so wrong. I've got a few other riders that have shown interest in how I ride the way I do and have started showing up at the high school when I practice. It's good to see others trying to improve the skills they have and get rid of the old bad habits we have picked up over the years. I will keep up on my practice schedule and the DVD will be always be handy. It was worth the few dollars that it cost and will save me bucks on scraped up bars and lowers. LOL! Not to mention the damaged ego if I drop it. Hoping for the best. Mike
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Hummm.... Provoking a bad situation...... 1. Who squeezed into my lane to get to the front of the traffic? 2. Who was jazzing their bike and smirking? (provoking?) 3. Who was not paying attention to the traffice signals? 4. Who was not paying attention to surrounding traffic? 5. And who didn't even notice the LEO idling next to him? 6. Oh yeah, who was wearing sandles, shorts and a wife beater? First of all if I was responsible for every idiot out there I'd have to retire and work full time to protect them, not to mention hire a sizable crew to patrol the streets of my city. We would still be severy outnumbered. And I'm damn sure the rewards of that career would be minimal at best. I'm a firm believer in "Stupidity Should Be Painful" and those who choose to try to earn a Darwin Award have my full support. I'll even write the nomination. If I had just given this moron the old "WTF" the result would have probably been the same. He chose to engage the clutch before engaging the brain. He failed to engage the brain when he picked out his riding gear. Sorry if I cry not because he might have lost some skin off the top of his foot when he shifted into second gear. I hope it was painful. I hope he crys when he pays his ticket(s) and I hope maybe, just maybe he will lose his licence. One down, how many to go? Idiots like him are the reason that there are warning labels on curling irons that say "Not For Internal Use" and labels on frozen pizza that say "Cook Before Serving". In this case I'd be saying plug it in, have a seat and chow down lil buddy. So the next time I'm sitting at a traffic light in the middle of my lane, on a full dress tour bike, wearing boots, jeans, leather jacket, leather gloves, sun glasses and a helmet, and another moron shows up I'll give your comment some thought. Should I smack him in the head to keep him from proving his mental prowness, or let him be what he is and prove it? Hell, I'd let him prove it. Ya can't save them all. Provoking thought for the day.
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Front Fender Bumper
Snaggletooth replied to Ozark's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I hear ya Orazk. I've let some stuff get away from me to. I've sat up late a few times waiting for a sniper shootout that never happened and got a winning bid in in the last few seconds. Ya never know which way it will go. Don't worry, there will always be more. -
bottoming forks
Snaggletooth replied to Holly's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Amen on the Progressives. I'm 285 and the front was beating itself to death when I bought her. Rebushed, resealed and added the Progressives with 10 wt. Not going to happen again I assure you. Solid and good response. The stock springs are junk. -
They are fun to tease. Had a young joker on a crotch rocket squeeze in next to me at a stop light the other day. He was looking at me and cracking his throttle and smirking. Everytime he cracked his I'd give mine a twist and laugh. The left turn arrow went green and I gave mine a jump ahead about a foot. He shot though the intersection before he noticed ONLY the left turn arrow was green and not the through lane. He also failed to notice the police cruiser that was on his left side while he was looking at me. I was laughing so hard I almost killed my bike when the light changed. They had him pulled over about 4 blocks away and I honked and gave him the thumbs up when I went by. I think he used a different finger for me. Poor loser. After all, I did beat him to the next light. LOL!
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Snaggletooth replied to Ozark's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
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The float number I got fits the VMax and '88 and new VRs. Off the top of my head I think it was 1FK and then for sure 14985-00-00. Looks like the the same float that's in my '84. I'm ordering 4 of them for mine.
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Howdy Squeeze Weird. That number came off a Yamaha parts CD on a breakdown for an '88 VR. They must have started cross referencing them a while back. As long as they fit and float I don't care if they came from a Briggs & Stratton. LOL! Thanks for the help on this. All I've heard from the time I bought the bike was that I was SOL on finding floats for it. Thus the airplane dope patch up job. It works, but it does add a bit of weight to the floats for sure. I'll probably be yelling for you down the road. Got a few other projects in mind for later in the fall and over the winter. Later Mike
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For the $1,500 I'd jump hard and fast. I paid a bit more than that for an '84 and haven't regretted it for a second. Great bikes, damn near bullet proof motors and at 16K it's only getting warmed up. Mike
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Hey Squeeze. The part number I came up with is 14985-00-00. That sound right to you? Mike
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Hey Squeeze. Well, long story short. HA! Not easy for me. LOL! I have an '84 1200. I bought the bike after 9 years of storage. (good storage) The carbs were my biggest problem as the floats were sinking and the needles hanging up flooding the bike when parked over night. I have been told repeatedly that the floats were no longer available and were no longer made at all. So I bought a spare bank of carbs and stripped out the good parts. The floats from those carbs were dried and treated with a light coat of airplane dope. When I did the rebuild I swapped out the floats with the treated one. No more flooding and no more rich smell when running and the bike starts fine. However, I am not able to get the fuel bowl level up to specs. The floats are adjusted to the point where if I go any furture the float bodies will hit the inside of the casing. This is due to the weight of the airplane dope treatment I'm sure. I am to the point of going back and changing back to the old floats now that they have dried out to see if the level can be brought back up to specs. Now, with all my questions and reading every forum I can get on to it looks like the floats from the 34mm Mikunis off a V Max and the '86 and newer VRs will change out with my carbs. I'm sending an old float to RickH to match against one he has in stock for a V Max. From the photo I sent him he says it looks like it's a possiblity. New floats would end all my concerns. The bike runs well as is but is a bit slow to respond on the WOT with the low fuel level. I took her out yesterday for a 340 mile run double up with gear and she did great and averaged 39.52 mpg at about 65 mph most the time. Oh, I should mention that at one point I did run her out a bit on the speedo for a mile or two. She had no problem hitting 105 mph and had room to go after that. She's not starving for sure. So, what can you tell me on the subject? I'm all ears on this one. Thanks. Mike
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Brake Problems
Snaggletooth replied to mtman's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Ok/ Done this a few times. Side covers Radiator side panels / with reflectors. Lower vent panels and connector Windshield trim. Windshield. Mirrors. Head light cover panel. Lower cowl intake under headlight Front connector plate for halves under headlight. Right side dash / top plate RS panel and unplug CLASS Left side / use key to remove sound system and lift out LS remove dash panel. Disconnect turn signals, hazard light switch and speakers. Unbolt RS fairing half and remove. Same with LS fairing half. RS / inner panel / disconnect over flow lines from radiator reserve bottle. Don't forget to hook it back up before running the motor ok. Unbolt panel. LS / unbolt sound system amp and unplug it and ant. wire. Unbolt panel and remove. That should get you naked and open it up to get to everything. If I missed anything I'm sure you'll see it as you work. The first few times I screwed all the bolts and screws back in where I took them out of to keep track of them but now I just use sandwich bags for each set of bolts and fittings for each section. That way I can have each set of hardware available as I reassemble the thing without a lot of digging. The first time I tore her open I marked the wire connectors with colored electrcial tape so I wouldn't forget what went where. Yellow to yellow, blue to blue. Idiots safety tape. LOL! Watch your wires when putting it back together so nothing gets pulled loose or pinched. Don't forget the turn signal plugs and the hazard lights. Doh! OK, it was just once! Later Mike -
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Snaggletooth replied to Ozark's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Yeppers. Shouldn't be a problem. Just be sitting down when the bidding goes nuts. The clean ones can bring some hefty bucks from what I saw when I was looking for one. LOL! -
I bought a CD off eBay a while back from Zedder Ent. that is a cross reference program that allows you to search part numbers and then it lists all the years, makes and models that use that same part. If has been a huge help in finding the right parts when buying used odds and ends. I think it was less than $10.00
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Snaggletooth replied to mtman's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Hey mtman. Sounds like progress to me. Just remember that when you break down those carbs you do not need to split all the carbs for what you want to do. Remove the long side brackets (with the holes for the drain hoses) and disconnect the linkage rods for throttle and choke and you will be able separate the two sets of carbs to do most of what you need to do that way. Leave the top brackets alone and on each sync'd set of carbs and it will save you some time and headaches getting things lined back up later. If you decide to replace the net filters get with me later and I'll tell you what I can on that project and I have some new parts that may be useful if you go that route. God forbid. LOL! Take a good look at the floats while you have them out to. Mine turned out to be the main culpit on my carb problems. Mark them as which carbs they came from and hang then up to dry in the sun for a couple of days if you can afford the time. When the carbs go back together you will need to set the float level and we can walk you through that. Hang in there. You're moving forward. Mike -
Damn you're good mm482! Just what I needed. And on top of that these are local hometown boys for me. I just joined the web site to see if I can hook up with this guy. Looks like he may have the answer I'm after. Looks like another V-Max part that will work on a Venture. Thanks again.
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Anybody have a picture of a float out of a V-Max or an '86 or newer VR? Working on something but need to know if I'm on the right track. Thanks Mike
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