I saw how you interact at Vogel and don't think you're too old. Perhaps when we ride and meet with the people on this site, we are witnessing, smart, safe, giving, family style vibes. I live in Florida where i see people ask for $3.45 of fuel in his 4X4, but put 4 cases of beer on the counter. I also have gone in and out of rider jurisdiction where I do biker runs, poker runs, and hit places. I myself do not drink while on the bike,but that's ME. If and when I feel as if I am not having fun, being uncomfortable or things are out of hand, I simply leave. I am also older now and my priorities change. I think Joe, you're just spoiled hanging out with us !!!