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    Yea,, I agree,,,since I can't seem to get a solid answer anyways... so what do you think ?? Before ?? After ??
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    Since we are waiting for the answer, and you are in the stirring up mode...let's talk tires, guns, religion and politics.... :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: Oh yea...did I tell how much faster the 1st Gens are ...????
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    Ahh... but the runts didn't make it... only the strongest survived....
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    I had read this a while back too and forgot about it... Figured there should be a couple of mini-bikes running around the front yard by now...
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    But, that wouldn't answer my question....
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    Thanks for the hard work in documenting these procedures. I know I need to do that to both of mine. This will make it much, much easier. :happy65: P.S. My printer and cartridges are still recovering...
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    One thing you should check is on the right side of the lower triple tree. ( Left side from the front looking back) There are the two rubber spacers. If you can get your fingers down there, see if the spacers are equally tight up against the lower triple tree. I found when putting my forks back in, that there is a wiring section with a connection that fits up into a "groove like area next to the neck tube. If that isn't perfect, My lowers didn't "seat" right and firm, and wasn't cinching the rubber spacer tight. The right side was tight the left side was slightly loose and could spin. It took a few seconds to determine why. That would have made some type of glitch in the handling I am sure. I only found that by accident when I ran my fingers down there to make sure things were clear. If I would have tightened the upper bolts, the forks,triple tree would have been kinked. Once I moved it to where it was supposed to be, it cinched right up. Just a thought...
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    Filled up again last night. Went 168 miles and was on steady red warning light. Used 4.16 gallons hitting 40.3 MPG. I really rode it easy though... no throaty throttle jockey stuff..
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    Thanks. I did have the forks collapsed. It is a good idea with the baster.. I used a measuring device I made and a brake vacuum bleeder to "remove" if needed. The baster is an easier device. Everything I have read, and been told, is 5 1/2 inches from top. GOOD POINT !! Although the measurement is with the springs removed. I agree this should be the standard. The fluid appears to be able to leak down into the lower forks while filling , giving different measurements until they are pumped and bled for air. We read our manuals...they state to pump/bleed the lowers to REMOVE old oil, none stated to pump prior to measuring...even the Progressive directions ( we both had the same page that came with the springs.. did not say to pump/bleed AFTER the fluid install. Which brings me to my original thought/question.. Okay...but my original, $64,000.00 question is...what should the measurement be AFTER you pump out the air and re- measure the fluid ? The main point I am trying to make is once I installed the 409cc it wasn't near the 5 1/2 inches. So I filled to 5 1/2 inches in equal measurements to each side. once one side got to 5 1/2 inches, neither side was equal in measurement. Once pumped for air, I was able to get both sides to 5 1/2 inches. So there must be "draining" down into the tubes as you fill that varies from fork side to side. In order to get it to 5 1/2 inches AFTER pumping the air, I used about 444cc's or approximately 15 oz compared to the recommended 409 cc/ 13.5 oz. In the 83 we did Saturday, the owner just installed the 409 cc's which was close to the 5 1/2 inches but not equal on both sides. Once pumped they both equalized but at a little over 6 1/2 inches from the top. I am just curious as to the discrepancy in the total amounts an the final amount it should be at AFTER pumping the air out. Remember... I am an Investigator... always looking for the clear, correct answer...
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    Thanks. The issue that I was trying to throw out was that I could not find anything that actually stated whether or not to pump the air out of the forks "after" putting in the fluid and measuring. Couldn't find something that matched the 409cc VS the 5 1/2-inch with the air pumped or not. It seems that there should be a statement that states Install 409cc's of fluid that should measure 5 1/2 inches from the top. Bleed air by pumping the lower shocks then measure again with the measurements being ??? from the top. It wasn't just me, there were three of us and one was even a 2nd Gen owner...
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    I have found form this, and other bike related forums that I have belonged to, that the "experts" here have more experience with the reality of the bike(1) than do the so-called dealer mechanics at out local stealerships. We used to have good little dealerships for each brand of bike and you could talk to the mechanics and they knew their stuff. Now we have SlimeNow stealerships and most of their parts people, mechanics and salespeople are young kids without real experience and they NEVER have even common parts available. Most of it comes from the the ones who have decided ( for what reason I will never understand) live where that white crap lays all over the ground for months on end and they are able to constantly tear down and repair/modify/document their bikes. The repair threads usually explain more in simple language than the manuals do. The "modified" tools are cheaper and easier to get/use than the "dealer" tools. Plus we can do it all while teasing the slower Generation...you know..the 2nds... (1) Reality of course is in the mind of the beholder... like those 2nd Gens that fantasize that they are faster than a 1st Gen....
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    She got a sister ? Just wondering....
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    I moved up to 36 on the 2nd tank and am now on my 3rd tank. I really have ridden this tank easy. No high RPMs or heavy throttle usage and it seems like I may doing much better. I am at 110 and just hit 2 bars. My bars don't seem consistent as I was at 65 + miles before I lost the 1st bar then it would start dropping faster the lower the bars went. No SeaFoam in last tank or this tank.
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    Okay.. as most know I just finished the overhaul of my front forks including the installation of Progressives ( man, are they worth it !!) . I had a question about the fork oil and from what I was told there was 2 ways to determine the "amount" of oil. First was the amount of 409cc's or 13 1/2 oz. The second, was 5 1/2 -inches from the top. The 5 1/2 inches was what most threads stated and what the instructions stated. That is what I installed the oil to. It was way more than 409cc's. Now, yesterday we installed Progressives in my friend's 83. We measured and installed 409cc's in each tube. They were not even, even close to even. So we pumped the lowers and then remeasured and the levels were even but not to 5 1/2 inches, more like 6 1/2+ inches below the top. Now, we read the manual, the threads, the Progressive instructions, and all though they all state to "pump the lowers to extract the old fluid, none state to pump the air out to measure the new fluid. It was obvious that when we installed his oil, air bubbles must have affected the 5 1/2 inch reading and leveled it out after pumping the air out. None of the info we could read, stated what the level from the top should be once they are "pumped" For example, if you just wanted to check you levels of existing oil, to what level should the oil be at from the top ?? It seems that there should be a level statement as to before pumping and after. I had the same issue of non level measurements when I poured in my oil before pumping the lowers. It probably took about 15 + oz to level mine out to 5 1/2 inches below. We left his at 6 1/2 inches below with the original 409cc's. So what am I missing here ?
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    So I had a lot of running around to meetings today so I took the 89. I have yet to see another 1st Gen in town. Got to one of the Defense Contractors and parked in the front lot in the cycle parking. And there she was...obviously separated at birth, born to different mothers, was my brunette's twin.
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    My 89 same thing. If the starter switch doesn't return all the way...no headlight.
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    Thank you sir !
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    So I have been wondering what these clip type things are on each side of my fairing ? And there are male ends of "snaps" mounted directly under them .
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    Typical BIG TOM

    KIC replied to BIG TOM's topic in Watering Hole

    Guess it brings a whole new meaning to the phrase...." Brain Freeze"... and you didn't even get it from Ice Cream.... Too funny...
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    Yea.. Graduated from the University of 1st Gens, Majored in Speed and Style. Guilty as charged.
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    OK..thanks all here are the 3 given to me in case anybody else wants them: http://www.themccumbers.com/States.htm http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=018394770372758774523%3Akqdhmppenta&hl http://www.searchtempest.com/
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    Thank you sir !
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    I recently saw a link to search Craigs List on one of these threads but can not find it. I thought I bookmarked it but obviously didn't do that either. Could someone please post the link for that national search ? Thanks.
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    If I read his thread correctly, he is trying to solve his issue and have a great, fast and classy bike...not add to his problems and lower his lifestyle...
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