Well, I went ahead with the Utopia backrest. Glad I did.... Made a world of difference. Bob at utopia got the seat out when he said he would, it arrived two days later... Couldn't wait, wen straight out ang installed it. Took longer to gather the tools than to get the bracket mounted. Hve taken a couple of rides with it and man what a difference!!.... Next will be to get the seat modified...... It is comfortable, may just go with some type of pad, haven't decided yet...