
Oldgold
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Dave McMillen
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Motorcycles,tennis
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83 Venture Royale
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After market TCI ?
Oldgold replied to 6m459's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Dyna 3000 #D3K7-7 was for V-Max, but apparently was discontinued as of May 09.- 33 replies
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I had an 84 Wing prior to my 83 Venture, the Wing was trouble free the entire time I owned it, nothing but tires, brake pads, but I never really liked it even though it did everything pretty well. The Venture has also been been fairly trouble free although lately at 89,000 it's needed a few things and they do have some issues as others have mentioned. Watch out for the stator on the Wing, I never had to replace but it is very expensive to have done, over $1000, also timing belts, as they will destroy motor if they break. I had the Wing for 3 years and have had the Venture for 9 so that shows my preference.
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When I changed mine, the source for diaphragms only wasn't available so I ended up with the factory slide diaphragm minus new needle. What they sell doesn't work for 83's as the lg. spring won't fit into the slide well so I had to get the later springs which are a smaller diameter and clear the small step inside the new slides. Anyway all this did change the power characteristics and the mileage of my 83, more or less what you noted, had more low end before and actually better mileage as long as I drove moderately. I think this may be due to the different springs as the original lg. diameters seem to be a lot softer than the later springs and probably allowed the needles to start opening at lower rpm??
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I had an 84 wing for a number of years before I sold it and got my 83 venture. The wing was a good bike, never really had anything go wrong other than normal tires, brake pads, that being said I never really cared for it. The venture has had it's share of well known issues but at the end of the day I still prefer it, handles better, way faster and even better mileage if ridden gently. Watch out for the alternator on early wings as an earlier post mentioned, the motor has to be pulled to change, very expensive.
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Seems to lack the "oomph" it had...
Oldgold replied to CdnDave77's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
After reading this thread I checked the vacuum on my 83, low and behold no vacuum at any rpm. Several squirts of carb cleaner and a poke with a small pin opened it up, lots of vacuum and definitely more "oomph" -
I really hate Carburetors!
Oldgold replied to Squidley's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I ran into this on my Suzuki, don't know if Venture uses this or not but anyway the needle seat on the Suzuki has an "O" ring where it presses into the carb body, these deteriorate over time and will allow gas to seep into the float chamber bypassing the needle valve. Another possibility is the float from that carb has lost some of its bouyancy, allowing more gas into chamber before exerting enough force to finally close off the needle valve. I hate carbs too, just had mine off the 83 Venture for cleaning. -
Tim, from the 83 manual, they show: #1 Orange, #2 Gray, #3 Yellow, #4 White I hope that's correct, I seem to remember that there are numerous errors in the manual, hopefully someone else will jump in if this is not correct.
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2nd gear question
Oldgold replied to mikexup's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I've got 85,000 on my 83, never had it pop out of 2cd gear, 2cd owner , don't hit 2cd hard often, but don't really baby it either, hopefully I haven't jinxed myself. -
Messing with the carbs
Oldgold replied to CrazyHorse's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
After many phone calls, e-mails and trips to two dealers it seems that the diaphragms they're showing for an 83 won't accept the original 83 springs, they're just a hair bigger than the later models, I found out that if you buy the diaphragm kit, they include the later springs which fit properly. The tech at the 1 dealer I went to was aware of the problem and was able to get me 4 used ones. Thanks to all for responses. They don't sell the 83 diaphragms any more so you get the later version with the step and must use the later springs. I haven't been able to ride that much since the change so I don't have a real good feel for what it's done to mileage and my clutch is too weak for a real performance check. -
Carb diaphragm springs
Oldgold replied to Oldgold's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
After many phone calls, e-mails and trips to two dealers it seems that the diaphragms they're showing for an 83 won't accept the original 83 springs, they're just a hair bigger than the later models, I found out that if you buy the diaphragm kit, they include the later springs which fit properly. The tech at the 1 dealer I went to was aware of the problem and was able to get me 4 used ones. Thanks to all for responses. -
Here's one I hope someone's run into, just got 4 new carb diaphragms for the 83, changed over the needles and low and behold the diaphragm springs will not go to the bottom of the plastic barrel, goes in fine about an inch, then hits a lip. Waiting for Zanotti to call back to see if they have any insight, can't believe this is right as the springs fit fine in the originals, part # is 41r-14940-00-00.
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Boost sensor vacuum restrictor
Oldgold replied to CptKirk's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Lots of good suggestions, the sooty plugs certainly point towards too much fuel or too little air, if the choke fuel enrichners aren't the culprit take a look at the condition of the main diaphragm needles and seats, I'm assuming the new bike never gave you good mileage, previous owner may have modified main jets, needles, springs, since you were getting better mileage at lower speeds you would have been running on the pilot fuel circuit, once you get up around 3,000 rpm the diaphragms are starting to lift the main needles and that really lets the fuel in. -
What gas mileage do you get ?
Oldgold replied to greg_in_london's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Hi Greg, the article was for XVZ1200 TK, it was on this site at one time. I got my 83 TK when it had about 8000 miles on it and it more or less did what the article mentioned, I've got 78,000 on it now and have gone through most of the well documented issues, the worst mileage I've ever had was when i synched carbs with a leaking diaphragm, this threw everything off and resulted in a large drop in mileage, once the diaphragm was repaired and carbs resynched mileage went back to normal. -
What gas mileage do you get ?
Oldgold replied to greg_in_london's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Just reread the Cycle Magazine test of the Venture from 1983, they got an average of 42.6. Their high was 47.4 sedate highway cruising, 44-45.3 cruising 65-70, 2 up and a low of 36.7 riding against high winds on mountain roads. My 83 probably was close to these numbers when new as near as I can remember, but at 78,000 it's probably down 2 mpg from all these numbers. It does illustrate what different conditions can do to fuel mileage and of course it's hard to get an exact mileage check unless you're able to go back to the same pump and fill to exactly the same level. -
What gas mileage do you get ?
Oldgold replied to greg_in_london's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
My 83 when new 46-42, now 43-38 at 78,000. By comparison my 82 GS1100g with 98,000 still gets 54 with light driving, dropping to 47 with chasing through the corners hard, my old 84 Goldwing got 42-43 no matter how I drove it.The 83 has 1 bad diaphragm and 1 cyl leaking gas from the needle tube at idle even though the float level is correct and steady, going to dig into soon in search of lost MPG