DragonRider

Now lets see the rest of the trailer and your bike................

Looks like you found a few of the good ones here................ Thanks for sharing what we already know................. And thanks for the short version.....................

That could have been RandyA, did you notice it the side covers were cut down, his is very nice, and quick. I think Randy lives in the Johnson City area, he is always out and about...........

If you were and still are a fan of the Beatles, you will love this web site, every song ever written and recorded by them. Video's, and music. Sit back and take a trip back in time................ http://www.beatlestube.net/video-links/

Here is a primer in brake fluids................. Brake Fluid Primer DOT 3 DOT 4 DOT 5 DOT 5.1 N.B. There are many racing fluids available..bringing the price and the quality of DOT 3 and DOT 4 far beyond the standards fluid. DOT 3 DOT3 brake fluid is the "conventional" brake fluid used in most vehicles. Advantages: It is inexpensive, and available at most gas stations, department stores, and any auto parts store. It is completely compatible with DOT 3 and DOT 5.1. Disadvantages: http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/DOT3usage.jpgIt will damage the original natural rubber brake seals so should not be used in any car suspected of having natural rubber seals (most Triumphs prior to 1968). It eats paint. It absorbs water very readily. Accordingly, once a container of DOT 3 has been opened, it should not be stored for periods much longer than a week before use. It is NOT compatible with Dot 5 whatsoever and should never be mixed. A safe swtich from DOT 3/DOT 4/DOT 5.1 to DOT 5 requires a complete flush of the braking system and a change of all seals in the hydraulic system. Maintenance Flush every 2 years. DOT 4 Advantages: It is available at most auto parts stores, and gas stations and department stores. It does not absorb water as readily as DOT 3 fluid. It has a higher boiling point than DOT 3 fluid, making it more suitable for high performance applications where the brake systems are expected to get hot. It is completely compatible with DOT 3 and DOT 5.1. Disadvantages: It eats paint. It is about 50% more expensive than DOT 3 fluid. (One brand is the easily found Castrol LMA) It is NOT compatible with Dot 5 whatsoever and should never be mixed. A safe swtich from DOT 3/DOT 4/DOT 5.1 to DOT 5 requires a complete flush of the braking system and a change of all seals in the hydraulic system. Maintenance Flush every 2 years. DOT 5 DOT 5 brake fluid is also known as "silicone" brake fluid. It was designed for the US Army, who has requested permnission to stop using it. Advantages: It does not eat paint or skin. It does not absorb water (BUT!!! See more on this under disadvantages, below.) It has a higher boiling point than DOT 3 and DOT 4. It is compatible with all rubber formulations. It is a good choice for Concours cars which are rarely driven and/or never driven hard. Disadvantages: It does NOT mix with DOT3 or DOT 4 or DOT 5.1. Most reported problems with DOT 5 are probably due to some degree of mixing with other fluid types. A residue of the former non-compatible fluid is suffuocent to cause serious issues. The best way to convert to DOT 5 is to totally rebuild the hydraulic system. Additionally, the same advice applies if switching from Dot 5 to any of the other fluids. Since DOT5 does not absorb water, any moisture in the hydraulic system will "puddle" in one place. This can cause localized corrosion in the hydraulics. Careful bleeding is required to get all of the air out of the system. It is hard to you without introducing bubbles and thus results in soft pedal feel. These small bubbles will form large bubbles over time. It may be necessary to do a series of bleeds. DOT 5 is less compressible (often creating a slightly softer pedal). It is not recommedned for racing application. It is hard to pour without introducing bubbles and thus results in soft pedal feel, It is not recommended by the brake manufacturer, espcially for ABS brakes. It is about twice as expensive as DOT 4 fluid. So silicone fluid aerates easily. Harley-Davison, one of the sole current OEM users of silicone fluid, warns buyers to let the fluid sit at least an hour before using it. If shaken on the way homeit will aerate enough to look like a freshly poured soft drink. Silicone fluid is also slightly more compressible than glycol fluid, does not change color to tip the user to its moisture content, and worst of all, neither accepts or disperses moisture, making systems using it more corrosion prone, and requiring much more frequent fluid changes. Silicone brake fluid also lacks glycol fluid's naturally occuring lubricity, making it incompatible with the mechanical valving in some antilock braking systems. Dot 5.1 http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/brakefluid51.jpgDOT5.1 is a relatively new brake fluid that is causing no end of confusion amongst mechanics. The DOT could avoided a lot of confusion by giving this new fluid a different designation. The 5.1 designation could lead one to believe that it's a modification of silicone-based DOT 5 brake fluid. Calling it 4.1 or 6 might have been more appropriate since it's a glycol-based fluid like the DOT 3 and 4 types, not silicone-based like DOT 5 fluid. As far as the basic behavior of 5.1 fluids, they are much like "high performance" DOT 4 fluids. Advantages: It provides superior performance over all the other brake fluids discussed here. It has a higher boiling point, either dry or wet, than DOT 3 or 4 or even DOT 5. In fact, its dry boiling point (about 275 degrees C) is almost as high as racing fluid (about 300 degrees C) and 5.1's wet boiling point (about 175 to 200 degrees C) is naturally much higher than racing's (about 145 C). It is compatible with all rubber formulations. It is completely compatible with DOT 3 and DOT 4 making an upgrade from either easy.. Disadvantages: It will absorb water. It will eat paint. It is more difficult to find for sale, typically at very few auto parts stores. Try NAPA #NBF51012 It is mildly more expensive than DOT3 or DOT4. It is NOT compatible with Dot 5 whatsoever and should never be mixed. A safe swtich from DOT 3/DOT 4/DOT 5.1 to DOT 5 requires a complete flush of the braking system and a change of all seals in the hydraulic system.

I did all the prep work, but a co-worker of mine shot the paint for me. Thanks for the compliments, I think he did an outstanding job also.

Last time I saw him was at Don's MD last year...................

Always is when you get Ventureriders together..............RIGHT??

If I threaten to sell it again, will you send the muffin down to fix my tranny...............:duck:

Here is the picture I posted in your original post.............in this picture it is the bottom hole. [ATTACH]45675[/ATTACH]

I finally got the wire through, then blew it out with compressed air, and put it all back together, and took it for a test ride, made several panic stops from 80 mph, and everything worked fine, brakes are back to normal, which really isnt all that great on a 1st gen, but at least I wont be stopping to open the bleeder valve everytime I ride it......:banana::banana: Thanks Condor, my faith has been restored, that was well worth $12.00. Next drink or two is on me.

After reading Condor's post about the relief hole, I pulled it all apart again and guess what..............IT'S FIXED..........YIPPEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!! I guess I owe Condor big time..........next drink is on me. DISREGARD THE PART ABOUT GETTING RID OF MY WONDERFUL 1ST GEN.........I was frustrated and fed up.......all is good again till Muffinman gets here........ Sorry Dan, didnt mean to get you all excited....and tell the Warden not to worry!!!

Ok, I am having the same problem, I now have my master cylinder off, I have pulled the elbow off. I see 2 holes one is on the bottom of the opening and when I depress the plunger I can see it moving inside, the other hole is above this one, doesnt look like it has a hole all the way through, tried the wire from a twist tie, but wont go in........ [ATTACH]45624[/ATTACH]

Not from VR, but from my beloved 1st Gen. It just seems to be one thing after another, got it all painted and pretty and the brakes started acting up.The brakes had never given me a problem before I took it apart for the repaint, so I am baffled now as to why all the trouble. I would imagine the calipers need to be rebuilt. I put new pads all the way around, replaced the rear reservoir, started using Dot 4 brake fluid, and the brakes are still locking up after riding for a short while, while I was doing all of this today I found my front fender was cracked starting where the speedo cable holder is, something must have hit it because it was perfect when I put it back together. 2nd gear needs to be taken care of, it shifts into it but if you get on it hard it will pop out, was going to wait on Muffinman to help me with that, but I am just tired of having to do something to it everytime I turn around. It runs great, doesnt leak oil, has new Shinko radial on the rear, an Avon Venom on the front with about 50% thread left on it. It has am/fm,intercom, CB radio,Sony 10 CD changer mounted in the saddle bag and it all works perfectly. I also have an extra CB radio to go with it. I would like to get $1800.00 for it. I am going to give it one more chance, and if the info I read from Condor works on the brakes, this thread will dissappear............PLEASE STAND BY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:think: [ATTACH]45619[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]45620[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]45621[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]45622[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]45623[/ATTACH]

I discussed this therom many moons ago, but no one could comprehend the phases of the miscoultronic preactor...........he left that out.

You cant get there from Ireland...................

I had an 81 CB650 Custom that I parted out, couldnt sell the engine in one piece, everything else went except for the seat and the frame, so I tore the engine down to all its little bits and pieces and sold it that way on Ebay, got more for it that way that what I was asking for the complete engine. Go figure......:bang head:..........

We will be having Vogel V/Tail of the Dragon in August 2011.............In fact last year we parked right next to you at the store...........Looking forward to making in back for another fantastic ride. Thanks for the update.

Thought this might be of interest to everyone here...........I found it very helpful. DOT 5 Brake Fluids After paying a small mint for the paint job on my restored Norton, I started considering ways to preserve and protect it. Chief among my concerns was brake fluid. I had once spilled regular brake fluid on my toolbox, and a week later it was sporting a huge corroded area with blistered paint. So after hearing about DOT 5 Silicone brake fluid I investigated. If you have similar concerns, DOT 5 Silicone might be of interest to you as well. Silicone based DOT 5 brake fluid was originally developed for racing, but has several attractive qualities for use on classic bikes with hydraulic brake systems. These are: • DOT 5 Silicone does not attract water. Lack of moisture absorption minimizes corrosion of internal components for better sealing, longer component life, and less maintenance. On the other hand, regular brake fluids are hygroscopic, and readily absorb water from the air and other sources. Therefore, motorcycle brake systems using DOT 3 and 4 ought to have their fluids changed regularly to prevent problems. The maximum life of DOT 3 or 4 is 5 years. • DOT 5 Silicone will not affect plastic or painted surfaces, and is non-toxic, non-corrosive and nonirritating. With glycol based brake fluids, like DOT 3, DOT 4 and DOT 5.1, care must be used to thoroughly wash it thoroughly from skin and all painted surfaces. • DOT 5 Silicone offers superior lubrication of master cylinder and caliper pistons preventing abrasion between the sealing cups and pistons that can take place under racing conditions. In street use, this could result in nearly zero component wear. • DOT 5 Silicone has a very high boiling point that eliminates brake fade. Although it is no longer the preferred brake fluid for racing, it is more than adequate for street use. Things You Should Know As with any product there are several trade-offs to consider before rushing out and converting every vehicle you own: Silicone fluids are not miscible with water. It’s the classic oil and vinegar scenario. DOT 5 Silicone, being less dense, tends to float on water. Therefore, if water ever entered the system it would collect at the lowest point, meaning the bottom of the caliper. Water in the bottom of the caliper could be hard to get out without removing the caliper and rotating the caliper to place the bleed nipple at the lowest point. While it’s permissible to mix DOT 3, DOT 4 and DOT 5.1 brake fluids, DOT 5 Silicone fluid cannot be mixed with any other type. If the system is not completely purged before conversion, the mixture may gel and result in very poor braking. Therefore conversion usually requires disassembly and a thorough cleaning, or at least numerous bleeding sessions over several days. Obviously then, the best time to consider conversion to DOT 5 is before rebuilding the master cylinder or caliper. Copyright RF Whatley, Suwanee, GA 2 Written June 04, Revised June 08 Because DOT 5 Silicone cannot be mixed with any other brake fluid it has been given a special purple color. Any owner or mechanic seeing the special purple color should instantly recognize that the fluid in the reservoir is not normal brake fluid. There are actually two types of DOT 5 fluids. There is a SBBF (Silicone Based Brake Fluid) and a DOT 5.1 NSBF (Non-Silicone Based Fluid). For several years DOT 5.1 was not available to the general public and there was a very low chance of getting the two confused with each other. However, the latest generation of motorcycles is now using DOT 5.1 and it is becoming more commonplace. Be aware that DOT 5.1 has the same base chemistry as DOT 3 and DOT 4 and therefore does NOT offer the advantages of DOT 5 Silicone. Another point of confusion is that most people assume that since DOT 5.1 has a higher number it must therefore be better. This is simply not true. DOT 5.1 was formulated for use in ABS systems that require a less viscous fluid. From the information I was able to gather it seems that most road racers are now relying on the latest generation of DOT 4 brake fluid, along with regular fluid replacement, for the ultimate in hydraulic brake system performance. So we may conclude that DOT 5.1 is not an improvement, but a modification for ABS use. DOT 5 Silicone brake fluids are not generally available in Europe. If your Italian or German motorcycle brake reservoir is marked “Use DOT 5” they are generally talking about DOT 5.1, which is not a silicone brake fluid. They do this because your bike is probably equipped with ABS and DOT 5.1 is the preferred brake fluid for ABS systems. The easiest source for DOT 5 Silicone brake fluid in the USA is your nearest Harley- Davidson shop. DOT 5 Silicone is specified as the brake fluid of choice for use in all HDs. And of course when working with any brake fluid, proper personal protection should be worn, don’t mix brake fluids from different containers, and be sure and follow the safety precautions on the label. Summation Although your bike shop may try to talk you out of buying DOT 5 Silicone, realize that this is because new bikes on their showroom probably specify something else. However, you should buy and use the brake fluid that is best for YOUR motorcycle. If effective braking, low maintenance and protecting your paint job are your priorities then DOT 5 Silicone should be considered. Thanks to Bel-Ray Lubricants for supplying the technical information used in this article. More information is available on their web site at http://www.belray.com/ Richard Whatley Rodi British Bikes

I thought that, but I didnt say it.................

Put Eck in charge of the Wingnut section!!!!!

Hey David.........are you counting the days till Muffin returns..............??????? Besides I think David is gonna miss me being on his back . Margaret

That last statement just might get you another ice cold shower................:rotfl::rotfl:

Hey Don, I will definitely try making that one, Charlene should be all healed up by then, and as for your son, if he cant be there, maybe he could plan on being airborne that day and make a flyover or two, that would be really special, maybe take some pics as he flies over................... I would also like to add my thanks to all those that donated to St. Jude Childrens Hospital...........:clap2:

Dan you got enuff project bikes to keep you busy till the day you die, heaven forbid, so why would you want another peice of worthless junk hanging around....................