thanks guys for the suggestions, I'm going to change the plugs then check for the firing and the coil, the bike had been sitting for a while due to the previous owner's back problems (he said he had sta-bil) in the tank but it was running crappy when I rode it home, gave it the seafoam treatment with fresh gas and it has gotten better but still not right so I guess it and hope it's going to maybe something simple?, the stealer is wanting to do the full blown tuneup, plugs, take carbs down, clean, etc... flush out fuel system, tank, etc.... sync. carbs, the whole deal to the tune to 600.00!, i'm hoping to avoid that if it's something simple and somethng i could do myself. great forum, lots of knowledge and experience to draw from for a shade tree mechanic. i'll keep everyone updated, thanks, bigdog1971:thumbsup2:.