My opinion on these brand new scooters is this. I picked up my 88 Venture for 2300. I've installed integrated Bluetooth so now I have an info-tainment system as well. Hands free calling, music, GPS, and it never has to leave my pocket. That being said, the cheapest of the full size luxury tourers are more than 10 times the price I paid for my venture. And having ridden late model Ultra Classics, Wings, RSVs I can say one thing with total certainty. You're not getting 10 times the bike for that money. The big bore VTwins are specially designed to take you down the interstate at 80mph all day at low RPMs. I will say that they do better than mine on that front, not that the 88 is afraid of freeway speeds, but I'm about a gallon and a half shy of fuel compared to these newer model bikes. These new bikes are made for people like the guy I work with named Russ. He buys a brand new Harley every year and the only real trip he takes on it is interstate to Oregon and back, no back roads, not really any twisties, just straight there and straight back. If I were to buy a brand new bike, I'll be looking at something more in the adventure category