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    Hi, Rick. Can't remember if you mentioned it in my other thread......but, did you buy the Works Performance replacement shock? Did you know about or consider the Hagon? Just wondering who might have used this brand besides the one guy in my other conversation. At $394, they certainly have a good price. (Of course that's meaningless if they crap out like the stock one. Mind you, they DO have a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty!) Cheers, Mike
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    I actually "jumped my own gun"......if you'll pardon the expression......and looked for a distributor in the US. Dave Quinn seems to be the guy. I wrote to them and got this reply: (now that I know there IS a domestic distributor of this British product......I'm curious how many of you guys have actually installed the Hagon product. Anyone....anyone??) Dear Michael, Happy to help, but currently out of stock. $394 plus UPS, can get here in 3-5 weeks. 'Off-the-shelf' shocks are assembled for an average rider- there is enough adjustability in the stock shock to cover a wide range of loading. It would be useful to know your weight, and whether you carry passengers (% of time? Passenger weight?) or luggage (saddlebags? tank bag? top box? loading in each?) and what your maximum loading (passenger/luggage) is likely to be. If Hagons determine that your loading exceeds the design parameters of the shock, they can supply to special order a shock with an uprated spring. Conversely if you are very light, Hagons can for some shocks supply a lighter spring. Softer and harder springs are available as custom built units only for $464 and will take between 4 and 6 weeks to get here. Shocks are also available to special order with a remote hydraulic spring preload adjuster- $554 for a stock spec shock and $624 for an upgraded spring model. Hagon monoshocks are fully rebuildable and feature straight weight spring with adjustable spring preload (threaded manual or hydraulic remote adjuster), adjustable 15 position LINKED compression and rebound damping (one adjuster for both) and a two year unlimited mileage warranty against failure due to manufacturing defect. Bent shocks due to accident, impact, dropped bike, improper installation or owner malfunction will not be warranteed. Shocks are not returnable once they have been fitted. All adjusting tools are included with the shock. You can see representative Hagon monoshocks online at http://www.davequinnmotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/HAGON_MONOSHOCKS.html Shipping and insurance will be charged at cost and will vary depending on what you order, your zip code and any fuel surcharges in effect on the day your order ships. We ship by UPS in the continental USA, by Priority Mail to AK and HI and by US Mail Express International outside of the USA. For special orders we ask for a 50% good faith deposit when Hagons accept the order, with the balance due when we ship. Please note- Special orders are not returnable unless found to be defective. If you're interested in ordering, we accept VISA & Mastercard; we need: -name as it appears on your credit card -daytime phone number -billing address for the card -ship-to address if different -card number -expiration date. Call or Fax if you are uneasy about emailing credit card details. Let me know if I can offer you any other information. All the best, Maggie Dave Quinn Motorcycles 335 Litchfield Tpke Bethany CT 06524 USA 203-393-2651 FAX 203-393-1725 9-5 M T Th F 9-12 Sa dqmcs@earthlink.net www.davequinnmotorcycles.com
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    Thanks for the tip, Wayde. I went to their site (http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/HagApps8.htm) but didn't see any reference to an XVZ model number anywhere...neither on their "application" chart nor their price list. When you made your purchase......did you buy direct from the UK......or from a US distributor......or...??? Was it a 'custom' order? Thanks for any info. Michael.
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    By the way, here's the answer I received from Works when I enquired about a replacement monoshock. (Presumably we VentureRiders would qualify for the 10% "group" discount): ============================================================== Ultrasport Series w/single rate spring, threaded preload and 18 position adjustable rebound damping @ $689. UPS Shipping to an east coast US address is appx. $23. Service on the unit would typically be a gas and oil service and seal replacements @ $110. Unlike generic, off the shelf shocks offered by other shock companies, Works shocks are custom built for rider weight, riding style and skill level and come with a performance guarantee ( 30 days), parts and workmanship warranty ( 12 months on street bikes, 90 days on race and off road vehicles) and are fully rebuildable. A 10% discount is available to AMA, AHRMA and other motorcycling associations, forum and owners group members. Works Performance products are custom built to order and lead time to build varies, depending on the number of orders in front of you, engineering time for custom frame/swingarm applications and the availability of the components required to build your shocks with. If we need to machine or plate required components, it adds time. We will always try to meet your needs if at all possible, but due to the custom built nature of the product, we do not guarantee specific delivery dates. Allow 2-4 weeks(approximately)from date of order until date of shipment. Thank You, Thomas Edison Sales & Customer Service Works Performance Products, Inc. 21045 Osborne Street Canoga Park, CA 91304 818-701-1010 ext 21 818-701-9043 fax www.worksperformance.com ............and here's the response from YSS: Hi Michael, Thank you for your interest in our products. Yes, we have built a few shocks for the Royal Star Venture – 2001. I was told that 99 to present are all the same. The shock is a YSS MZ 506-255 TR at $ 499.00 It is an Emulsion-Gas shock with adjustable rebound damping and pre-load via the C-spanner. Warranty – 2 years Delivery – 2-3 weeks. Please call the office in J at 732-786-9777 with your questions and/or order. Regards Klaus Huenecke
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    Right on two counts: I AM a skinny fart - 175 I only rode the GS about 25 thousand miles from 1982 to 2006 However, if EVERYBODY else knows that two shocks last longer.....isn't it curious that those smartypants engineers at Yamaha haven't figured it out? Or at least after ten years of failures figured out how to make a MONO that lasts at least 500 hours? (about TWICE as long as the current ones, based on the average mileage before failure that I see reported here.) As Don said, further up this thread, any car company with this history of suspension disasters would have been embarrassed or sued into a massive (total) recall by now. Really.....tell me.......are there ANY RSV owners out there who have over 25 thousand miles (40k km) on their bike who HAVEN'T replaced the rear shock? Maybe it's time to do the unofficial roll call, create the database, do the press release to five or six major bike mags then look for a starving young lawyer with an interest in class actions.
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    Attaboy! Your lungs will forgive you in no time! In another month or two, you'll try a smoke.....and with any luck, you'll gag, and wonder, "How in the hell did I ever do that 20 times a day?!?!?" Congratulations!!
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    Pretty sure I saw elsewhere that the Gen 1 shocks don't fit the Gen 2. Too bad, especially if they last!
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    Guess I got spoiled by my Suzuki GS1100G shafty: same rear shocks for 24 years!
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    Hey, guys....thanks for the great responses. (I'm hoping for more to roll in, especially to get a better feeling for what people are using who AREN'T getting a FREE replacement under warranty. Gary, the fact that at least two of you mentioned you "hardly felt any difference" (even though you knew it had puked out its oil) seems strange....but at least that sort of confirms what Craig says about not getting "stranded" by this thing if I DO keep riding it. Brian, thanks for the guidance to the "other" site for the step-by-step. (Not a problem that they're using a Works replacement...I might be, too!) Gunk......I REALLY appreciate your offer to help me swap this thing out some afternoon....but, not sure if my brain could stand the 9 hour (return) trip up and down the 401. (Don't count me out, though.....you never know how chicken I might get when I look under this thing...or try to balance it on my crappy jack!) Alain, EVERYBODY must be picking up replacements from 'wreckers'; Zdeno didn't even have one........and they ALWAYS have EVERYTHING!! Based on how frequently these things fail.......and based on how many 2nd Gens there are on the road......there must be dozens of riders who've replaced this puppy OUT OF WARRANTY. May we hear from a few more of you, please. (It appears there's lots of interest!!) Thanks again to everyone for all the info.........keep it coming! Mike
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    Sorry if these questions are answered elsewhere...but I HAVE (honest!) done quite a bit of reading and not found some of them (I swear!!) 1. What percentage of replaced rear shocks are done in/out of warranty (can I see a show of hands?) I only ask because no one seems TOO pissed about having to spend 500 bucks on a hardly used machine! 2. Is there a "Remove and Replace" step-by-step description of the job anywhere on our site? (I've seen several comments regarding how much OTHER crap actually has to be removed to get at the shock....but no DEFINITIVE procedure.) 3. Of all you guys who HAVE replaced these at your own expense...what all different brands have been used? i.e. How many of you went with Works.....how many YSS.....etc. AND, are you happy with your solution...AND how much DID it cost you? 4. Last but not least.......I'm not REAL anxious to crawl under my bike and/or hoist it up on a jack before I absolutely have to...so, if I procrastinate (as I usually do on stuff like this) will I be one VERY sorry guy, stuck out in the boondocks when the thing finally goes COMPLETELY south on me (it's only leaked a couple of ounces of oil so far...but is still working not too badly.) Will I be left sitting with a wheel/tire jammed so far up under my fender that I'll have to call CAA? Thanks for as many answers as you have time for. Mike P.S. I'm out of warranty....it's an '03.....so I gotta say I'M pretty pissed that I'm spending this much money for a 'mission critical' part on a bike with only 34,000KM on it. (20Kmiles). It's not the quality I've come to expect from ANYTHING Japanese. (Toyota Camry jokes notwithstanding........cause I own one of those, too!.....but at least that was paid for by the company......and it didn't sack out my rear wheels!)
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    Wow. I'm surprised to hear you say that, buddy; I've changed my bulb two or three times........have never found any twisting or turning of the rubber boot necessary. Just, Pull Off..........Push On. Seems to work for me. Mine's an '03. Do you suppose different years are different? Just my 2 cents. Mike
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    Thanks, Kent. Looks like it's "NEW" we go! Guess I should order it now, (even though the bike isn't draggin its butt on the ground yet) just in case all the parts guys plan a big "year-end" price increase!! LOL Thanks again, everybody, for all your input. Mike
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    I SEE that now, Lilbeaver: `03 version over 500 bucks..........`10 version 430!! Why is that? Is there NO difference between the two? If they're identical.....or at least so close as to not have ANY installation or function issues, I wonder why PartShark wouldn't bring this to light and rationalize their inventory. (Or, at least add a note somewhere like "They're close enough to use either one: pay us MORE for the old one.....or LESS for the new one......YOUR CHOICE!" I don't get it. Has anyone else installed the newer, cheaper shock on an older model bike? (Sorry to sound like an 'untrusting, skeptical, cheap-ass, sum*****......I just REALLY can't afford to make mistakes that cost money these days!! )
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    Looks like the price has gone up a bit! (High demand, no doubt!!) 1 SHOCK ABSORBER ASSEM 99999-03500-00 (replaces 4XY-22210-00-00) 1 $719.40 $508.53 They show 719 as `retail`.......508 as òur price`.
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    So.........at the end of the day........(as "they" like to say)......is there a CHEAP/SMART/ALTERNATE way to fix this thing other than paying 700 bucks to have the dealer do it? (Or am I guessing way to low.....and the part ALONE is 700???) Thanks for any tips/tricks from my fellow cheapskates!! (Read: rather spend it on beer!)
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    Thanks for your feedback, Boomer. Please let me know how/when you plan to proceed. Based on the amount of oil I see coming out of mine........we can't ride for long once it starts. (almost makes me HOPE for snow so I don't have to feel bad about not being able to ride!) Anybody know how long these things typically take to go COMPLETELY south? I was out on my '03 for a bit today.....and it was either already starting to sound a little "mechanical".....or, it was just my imagination running wild in anticipation of have ZERO suspension. So......will I be able to squeeze another 600 miles (1000 kliks) out of it?
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    What a disappointment, that a manufacturer with a name as prominent as Yamaha would create such an expensive apparatus with no known way to repair it. Inasmuch as 'everything is relative'.....this is kind of the equivalent of say, BMW, saying "Nope, sorry......you're going to have to throw away your starter motor......it's impossible to repair, even for an experienced journeyman mechanic." (I say that thinking that would never happen.......but, hoping I haven't just jinxed my 325's starter motor!!) Has anyone EVER taken Yamaha U.S.A. to task on this issue? Any results in writing? I'd love to see their justification (if they even deemed it worthy of a reply/argument). Signed: leaking oil......and pissed!
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    I just spoke to a fella named Tom at Unifilter and he confirmed that they do NOT currently have a filter in stock built specifically for the Gen 2 RSV. He says to keep an eye on the online catalogue and that they should have one produced in the next month or so. (I guess they're going to buy an OEM one and copy/adapt it as quickly as they can!) That's the latest, up-to-datest.........so if anyone's in desperate need of a filter before year end, I guess it's K&N or stock. Cheers, Mike
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    Yeah, Harold......that's exactly what I was asking myself this morning. I sent an email to UNI and asked them the exact same thing. Will let you know what answer I get! Mike
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    In my constant quest to bring new meaning to the phrase "cheap screw".....I'm currently looking for a way to replace my air cleaner elements that won't cost an arm and a leg. If anyone's got an idea for an alternate paper element (i.e. sourced from anywhere other than the factory)......or a completely different setup (but please not K$N....oops did I make a Freudian spelling error there?......) I'm open to suggestions.......just not expensive ones. Hey, I'm even up for crazy ideas like dry-cleaning my stock ones.......IF it would work! Thanks for anything, Mike
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    Yessireebob! I charged the crap out of that new battery with my "full-power", 4 Amp regular charger. It was reading close to 13 Volts before I fired up Bertha........and I made a point of riding for no less than half an hour (with no radio turned on) on my first three or four times out on the road. (I KNOW those short milk runs are death on batteries!) One month later, things still seem fine. I think it's my Winter battery regimen that will have to be reviewed and OBEYED!! Later, Michael
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    Yes, indeed, it DOES look sweet!! I see you have the chrome Stebel airhorn mounted in the "standard" position. Just wondered...have you ever had any thoughts about mounting it in a more "hearable" position? Or maybe adding a second one? The reason I ask is, my Stebel is in the same location, and after trying to use it several (almost a dozen) times to remind my upfront riding partner (unsuccessfully) to cancel the signal lights on his 99 Intruder....I'm wondering if the sound is traveling as well as it coulda/woulda/shoulda. It sounds loud as hell to me....as I'm sure yours does to you!!.....it's like a locomotive......but since I was within 100 feet of my buddy and he appeared not to hear me on about every second blast (maybe he was just ignoring me )....I'm worried now how effective my Stebel really is with rolled up window cages on the road ahead. ??? Thoughts??? The horn does make young girls on the sidewalk almost jump out of their shorts (who, me? beep at good looking lasses???), but then, when you think about it, that's exactly where the outlet of the horn is pointed. I wonder what the "up front/off axis" decibel rating is in comparison to the "side fire" level. Anyone got any opinions or read any reports on this? Thanks for any info. Michael
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    Good point, Dave. I'll remember to specify/clarify in the future. (I especially don't wanna "mess with Texas"!!) Best regards from Niagara... Michael
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    Hey, Kent......didn't mean to send you off on a wild GOOSE (arh, arh) chase. The (logical) reason this post got 'resurrected' was because I was mining the technical forum to find as much information as I could about bleeding the clutch on the RSV.....and when I came across a message that sounded like someone had the same problem I do.....(even though it was two years ago)......and the answer was, "Oh, just send so-and-so a PM (private message) and he'll be glad to help you out".......it was a disappointment, and seemed to defeat the purpose of having a public forum, where EVERYBODY gets to share the knowledge by reading a published solution. Knowledge is power........and god knows we need all we can find on how to spend more time riding and less time fixing! :-) Michael
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    No offense intended..........but why would you suggest a "PM" when inquiring minds always want to know? Michael
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