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Paul Martin

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    Paul Martin

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    Madison

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  • Bike Year and Model
    2001 RSV 71K Miles (2024-11 to now) | 1982 Yamaha XV920TRJ (2004-11 to now - see 'About Me')
  • Bike Customizations
    Virago - Transformed into an XV920R but with shaft drive

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  1. I bought my 2001 RSV with 71K Miles on it. And it had a pogo-stick rear shock. I thought I would share my adventure of renovating the rear shock on the forum. I don't see any way that this shock can be disassembled any more than what is required to replace the O ring, and Yamaha says the shock is not rebuildable. But here's the deal. There is an O ring seal on the shaft just above the bottom clevis pin shock mount that will wear out and the shock fluid will leak out. When enough fluid leaks out, your rear suspension acts like a pogo stick. Running max air pressure may help a bit, but to fix it, that O ring needs to be replaced, and shock fluid replenished, which will often restore the shock to like new performance. It fixed mine! Credit to long time member @dfitzbiz (Dave) for the detailed instructions on how to replace the O ring. I PM'd him and he quickly sent the instructions and a pic of the tool he created to accomplish the O ring replacement. I guess he has a reason for not posting those detailed instructions in an article on the forum, so I will follow his lead and not post his instructions here. I have searched and read the "RSV Repaired Rear Shock 2000 Mile Update" post from top to bottom and searched the forum site but I don't see the detailed instructions that Dave sent to me posted anywhere on this site. So I am posting pics of my shock renovation journey, along with descriptions and comments. I gotta say, after putting in the new O ring and replenishing the shock fluid, the rear shock feels like new. Dave fashioned his shock expansion tool from what looks like 1" square bar stock. I did not have ready access to this material, so I ended up using what I had on hand to build a variation of Dave's tool. As you look thru the pictures, check for descriptions and comments below the pics. Shock Before Removal Harbor Freight Mini Moving Dolly Under Rear Wheel Harbor Freight Mini Moving Dolly Mini Dolly under rear wheel allows bike to be moved on the rolling jack after shock is removed. Removing the air filler hose from the bike. Removing the air filler. Removing the air filler. Removing the air filler. AIS is in the way - gotta come outta there. AIS coming out. Ratchet in place on top shock bolt. I think it's a 17mm. Ratchet in place on top shock bolt. Top Bolt ready to pull out. Loosening the bottom bolt. Bottom bolt ready to come out. Lowering and removing the shock. Shock removed, AIS hoses plugged and capped. Used rubber plugs for the bigger hoses (see red circle). Poor dirty old shock. Nice purty cleaned up old shock. What's behind the curtain? Removing the boot. Removing the boot. Boot removed. Boot removed. Hang the shock upside down and remove the air valve to allow shock fluid to drain. Draining the shock fluid. Draining the shock fluid. After about a day, less than 50ml drained out from the shock. After two more days, still the same. I waited that long only because I couldn't get back to this project for a couple of days, and figured it would be good to make sure it all drained out. So that's why my shock was pogo-ing. 50ml is not enough to provide damping. Maxing your air pressure to 57psi might help a bit but won't totally stop the pogo-ing. Now, if your shock won't keep air, I believe that is a separate problem. My shock would hold air pressure even tho the O ring was leaky. So my guess is there's another chamber or rubber balloon that handles the air pressure. Well, in retrospect, the above can't be right. The air goes in the same hole that you pour the shock oil into so the damping mechanism and air chamber are connected. Comments and experienced observations are welcome here! Less than 50ml of old fluid came out of my shock. Dave recommends refilling a shock with 125ml. Fabricating the expansion tool. So this piece of steel channel stock was cut from a 6 foot length I found laying in the middle of a street about 15 - 20 years ago. You never know when you might need a chunk of channel stock, right? Shock bolt will go thru this hole. Pusher bolts will go thru the two smaller holes. Lube the new O ring. Carefully slip the new O ring over the clevis and down onto the collar at the base of the shock. Carefully slip the new O ring over the clevis and down onto the collar at the base of the shock. Carefully slip the new O ring over the clevis and down onto the collar at the base of the shock. I made this pressure plate from plywood. It's not really sturdy enough for doing multiple shocks, but it worked fine for this one shock. This spreads the pressure from the pusher bolts out so as not to deform/bend the bottom of the shock housing when the pusher bolts are tightened. Expansion tool mounted and ready to pull the shaft up to expose the old O ring. Expansion tool mounted and ready to pull the shaft up to expose the old O ring. Tightening the nuts on the pusher bolts. The nuts push the tool and shaft upwards while the bolts push down against the shock body. O ring starting to show in the gap as the shock is expanded. O ring starting to show in the gap as the shock is expanded. Slip a small screwdriver under the old O ring and pull it out from the groove. Snip the old O ring and pull it out of the shock. Old O ring is clipped and ready to be pulled out. Old O ring. Clean and lube the groove that the O ring fits into. Clean and lube the groove that the O ring fits into. Use a small screwdriver to carefully coax the new O ring up off the collar and into the groove. Use a small screwdriver to carefully coax the new O ring up off the collar and into the groove. Use a small screwdriver to carefully coax the new O ring up off the collar and into the groove. New O ring in place. Clean it up as good as you can. New O ring is in place. Make sure it's still adequately lubed. Slowly back down the nuts on the pusher bolts to allow the shaft to retract back into the shock body. Remove the air filler hose from the shock body, and lay the shock at a slight angle with the filler tube up. I used a cheap meat injector from WalMart to refill the shock with 125ml of Yamalube 10 Fork & Shock Oil. I used a cheap meat injector from WalMart to refill the shock with 125ml of Yamalube 10 Fork & Shock Oil. I used a cheap meat injector from WalMart to refill the shock with 125ml of Yamalube 10 Fork & Shock Oil. I used a cheap meat injector from WalMart to refill the shock with 125ml of Yamalube 10 Fork & Shock Oil. I trickled the fluid in a few drops at a time to allow it to ingest into the shock body and avoid it bubbling back out. That way I'm sure all 125ml goes into the shock and I'm not guessing how much bubbled out. Connect the air filler hose to the shock body and pressurize the shock to about 40psi to test for leaks. Reinstall the shock into the bike. Reattach the air filler hose to the bike. Shock reinstalled. Rear AIS deleted. Put the side panels and seat back on the bike and ENJOY THE RIDE!
  2. U-Haul makes a purpose-built motorcycle trailer and the RSV fits in it perfectly. Trailer is just over 9' from inside the ramp to the front of the tire cutout in front of the trailer. Has sturdy strap loops and it is low to the ground. Only about $25/day. Hauled my bike from where I purchased it in Pella, IA to back home in Madison, MS. Wrapped tie-down straps around hand grips to the low loops in the trailer and pulled tight to compress fork (not quite all the way down). Put another pair of straps from the bag guard rail to the back low loops (hard to see in these pics). No problems during that long haul back home. Rode the bike up into the trailer to load, backed it down w/ feet flat on the ground at home. Have a slight dip in the driveway which helped flatten the ramp bump.
  3. Started on the valve adjust odyssey Dec 2. Finally got 'er back together and rode Big Red last weekend. Most of the time working on the bike was cleaning up the grime under the tank (air intake, carbs, valve covers, plumbing). Apparently PO habitually kept the crankcase overfull of oil. After carb sync the engine idles pretty smooth - always pulled strong though, even before the carb sync. Next project probably the rear shock fix. Then front brake (not a smooth pull, kind of binds, then finally lets go and then you're braking too hard).
  4. Drew, when you get it on the road again, would you mind doing a recording/video of the bike at idle and also with rpm's raised a bit? When I bought mine in October it sounded a bit puffy/out of sync. Since the valve covers were weeping, I figured it was a good time to check and adjust valves and put on new gaskets. I've adjusted valve clearances (6 intake buckets were just a bit on the tight side at .08 and .09mm - just under the .11mm minimum spec) and am still in the process of cleaning up gasket mating surfaces and gunk prior to reinstalling covers, carbs, etc. Once I get it all assembled I'll sync the carbs. Would be nice to have a right-running engine/exhaust sound to compare to. Thanks!
  5. That's a really clean looking install Drew. Would you mind posting links to the mounts you ended up using? Thanks, PM
  6. Well Earl, I figured out I only need 3 shims (all 260's) and found an ebay seller selling them for $8 each and offering a $3 trade-in so, I no longer will need to rent your shim kit - thank you! Attaching a worksheet I came up with to help with valve shim replacements. Paul Martin 601-966-8771 Valve Lash Check and Adjust - SHIM Worksheet.xlsx
  7. Thanks! Yes it do! But under that purdy tank I have found a grimy mess. Working on the valve adjustment. Pic shows the grimy carb framework. Ignore the hose clamp - was using that over the frame to exert some up force on the carbs to unseat them from the intake boots. Worked great!
  8. Hello SkyDoc_17. Hope you are doing well. How long is the wait for your shim kit? I have everything opened up and have checked valve gaps - exhaust are all within spec - one or two at max, and 5 intake are a tad tighter than spec (around .09mm). I already have the cover gasket and grommets. Ready to PayPal when you are sir! Thanks, PM 601-966-8771
  9. I'm now the proud owner of a 2001 RSV (bought about a month ago). I see in the owner's manual it says to shut off the petcock between rides. And that surprises me. First reason for the surprise is this bike has a fuel pump. So, if you forget to shut off the petcock, can the fuel actually leak past the fuel pump, up to the carbs, and then leak down into the cylinders and beyond? Second reason for the surprise is, my 1982 Yamaha XV920 is equipped with vacuum shut-off petcocks. Why would Yamaha not equip the RSV with same? And along with this question, has anyone here tried swapping out their RSV petcock for a vacuum shut-off petcock? Thanks for feedback! PM
  10. Bought this 2001 RSV w/ 71K on the clock about a month ago. Quite a bit of difference from my '82 XV920, which I used to think of as a 'big' bike lol. Will need: -- new valve cover gaskets (already purchased) -- valve lash adjustment (never done from what I can see in the maintenance records) -- carb synch -- rear shock replace (soon!)
  11. Ray, is this the bike you are describing, and did you buy it? I was #2 in line to buy it but found a 2001 Venture and decided to buy it instead.
  12. Thank you Freebird!
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