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    Took of banjo at Master and slave... Blew the s____ out of it both ways.. No noticeable junk came out.. Blew the master thru the relief hole. Reverse bled the system, got a lot of air out.... and guess what.. Same situation.....Hydraulic lock if that's what you call it... Once system was pumped up, the lever is back to being too firm to hardly move..... Hoses seemed clean and easy to blow thru even by mouth ( had to try it) I've checked my master rebuild 3 times and compared it to the old one to make sure it was put in correctly.. all seems well except that the pressure is to great to even move lever.. Clay
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    As soon as I finish a little late breakfast I'll take the lines off at the ends as suggested by Condor and the the crap out of them with the compressor.... Thank you all for your suggestions. Murph.. If I get any further thoughts on what is wrong I may take you up on your offer. Thanks, Clay
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    Went out this AM and took the master cylinder off again.........Took it all apart and re-did it... made sure the little release hole was clear and that the piston was fully releasing. I could blow air back thru the cylinder from the banjo bolt opening so the clutch appears to be fully releasing... But... same thing happens... pump handle a few times and it becomes so firm that it can only travel a short distance ... and it will not engage the slave enough to push the rod. ( I have the clutch cover off and the rod only moves a fraction of an inch, yet the push rod works freely enough otherwise. I'm about ready to haul it to the Yamaha shop, but I know how much that will cost, and I'm not sure they will know any more than the people on here....
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    Thanks, I have thought of that and that's why I made sure the little release pin hole was clean and open. The plunger does return to the completely back position against the clip. I'll double check again though.
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    I wish i knew... Seems to be pressure builds up in mc and will not release back into reservoir.. but there seems to be nothing wrong with mc
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    Hello, I've about had it.... Started out with clutch/ slave master cylinder and a stuck shifter problem... Clutch and shifting problem seem to be pretty much resolved, but in trying to finish up the job I'm having a terrible time with the bleeding. I've reverse bled the clutch about 5 times.Tried it the standard way several times, also left the clutch lever tied down overnight... What happens is I bleed the air out, pump the clutch handle about 3-5 times and by then the pressure is so hard I can only move the lever about 1/2 inch. Rebleed and same thing......over and over and over...:bang head: I've taken the master cyl. apart and put it back together twice...Followed the diagram exactly..same thing...Slave is new and work fine..... Push rod from slave works fine, clutch is good.....I've run a very fine wire throught the pinhole in the master cyl.... What the heck is the problem here??? I need some new answers or suggestions... I'm all out of ideas??? Clay
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    Thanks for the link. I'll be sure to bookmark that. I have a feeling that it will be useful more than once. Thanks for all the help Dan:12101: Clay
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    if I knew where to find that diagram I sure would be able to identify it....Where did you find that????? This issue certainly is starting to look more and more complicated. I'm just hoping something did not give way in the transmission.... The rod I am looking at sit under the casing for the pinion gear well back under there.
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    linkage on left side from shifter goes thru front stator/ flywheel cover and then back to a rod that comes from ____________________????? the rod that comes out seems to be stuck. Checked clutch, etc and that all seems fine.... linkage still stuck. It has never been taken off b4 today and has always worked. Clay
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    Thanks for the thought. That was going to be my inspection Friday.. Check to see if the linkage is binding somewhere...It has always worked previously, but one never knows... Thanks to Dan, the clutch seems to be eliminated as an issue. With his expert advise and tutelege, I removed clutch pack and checked that over as well as the shifting mechanism on the clutch side.. All is well there........ Let's see.. master cylinder rebuild, new slave , clutch seems to be functional.... bent or bound linkage will be next check. Thanks to all for any ideas and suggestions.. Great bunch of people here.... Clay
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    Not a bad idea.. maybe I'll go back and take the slave off again... damn ,that means bleeding the system again.... :smash2: ..
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    Exactly what my 83 has done for years.. Seems normal from everything I have ever heard on it. Concerned me at first too, but no problem if it is not running in the red Clay
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    The gear shifter itself will not move.... ]I forget the status of your bike. Has it ever, in your possession, run and shifted properly before your cluch hydraulic problems? When you tried to shift it, is the engine idling? If not, have you tried applying pressure to the shifter while turning the rear wheel? Sometimes these things need a little motion to slide into place. Oh yes this bike has run beautifully for years. Just got done with a 5000 mile trip that needed 5250 except it died 250 miles from home...The clutch had started to lose fluid and pressure the last thousand miles or so. had to bleed it and refill .. which caused me to think master cyl. and slave which I just replaced and also reverse bled well. Tried moving the shifter all ways with wheel moving f and b.. also with engine off and idling. Does this apply only when holding the clutch lever in, or all the time? When you pull the lever do you see the center move outward a little? No the center does NOT move outward even in the least.. I can hear the slave seemingly working . Wheel and center turn whether clutch lever is held in or released. When you turn the clutch center by hand, does the rear wheel turn? ----YES it does The center (boss/pressure plate) and outside (basket) of the clutch should always be locked together UNLESS you're holding the clutch lever in, then they should be free of each other. The disconnect point between the engine and rear wheel due to being in neutral is inside the tranny; you can't see it from the outside. any of this give you any more thoughts??? Clay Jeremy
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    I did note that when T turn the rear wheel the center of the clutch bearing does turn as well.. Whatever the heck that means.. Green neutral light is on.
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    Well after the new master cylinder and new slave ,which ironically went in fairly easily, and after reverse bleeding with tutoring from Condor, my shifter on old 83 is still stuck.... Can't go up or down thru the gears with or without the clutch.. just seems stuck. Up on the centerstand, the rear wheel is free. With the clutch cover off, I can by hand turn the center. Help ......b4 this goes to the shop and get more expensive than the bike is worth. Clay
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    Bled the master cylinder well and have good pressure, put new slave in and freakin thing will still not shift from nuetral to anything else.. :smash2:seems stuck there. In neutral rear wheel will turn.. Obviously something else is still messed up.. Any thoughts or ideas Help..
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    With thanks to all those expert advisors, the master cylinder is in.... the new slave is in and all surprisingly easy.. Going to get the fluid in tomorrow and bleed it out. Hopefully all is well... Let you know how it all turns out.... Clay
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    With Condor's perfectly described method, the inner workings came out like a breeze. Looks relatively simple to put back in with the exception of one question... How do you get the rubber cylinder cap over the cylinder as on the removed one shown in picture? 002.jpg
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