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Welcome to the group and on getting a Venture Royale. First off I would add a half of can of seafoam to the new gas if not even a full can.. Next before trying to start it, reinstall the air cleaner box and filter with the top of the box installed also. These carbs need the restriction to function correctly and will not run with it removed at mid to full throttle. You can remove the top of the box to observe the sliders and see if all 4 are moving when idling. This help to figure out if you have a plugged air passage or not. I would go ahead and start the bike with the seafoam in the tank but maybe rock the bike some to mix the seafoam with the gas.. usually you would add the seafoam and then fill with gas. Let the bike fun for maybe 10 to 15 mins and then shut it off and let it be overnight so the seafoam can do its magic. Next day get on it and start it up and run it like you stole it, working the throttle all over the place and see if you feel and hear an improvement in the running. If you need a new battery, I have had excellent result with a Deka built AGM battery and using a smart charger to maintain it. I hope this helps and let us know how this works for you. Rick F.
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I would check out this site and see what they have for your 83.. https://www.siriusconinc.com/search_result.php?search=search&make=2&model=XVZ13&part=&partno=&x=24&y=18 They have different parts available Rick F
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back to the sticky seat
cimmer replied to PBJ's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
That is an interesting idea and tip. Thanks -
86 VR trunk lock assembly
cimmer replied to Ddiggerr's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Your best bet is Ebay as I have seen them listed for sale on there before in the past. Rick F. -
Xvz1200 cdi box.
cimmer replied to Fatrat's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Tommy, I am not real familiar with the XVZ1200 but for a test I would think it would be okay. I check the part numbers out and the CDI starting with 26H-09 is for a 1983 Venture. It was a replacement for the 26H-10 by Yamaha. 31 Ignitor Unit Assembly 26H-82305-10-00 26H-82305-09-00 The above is copied from the USA Yamaha parts list for the 1983 XVZ1200 and is under the electrical 2 listing... https://www.partshark.com/oemparts/a/yam/50042483f8700209bc787e5d/electrical-2 Hope this helps you out. Rick F. -
86 VR trunk lock assembly
cimmer replied to Ddiggerr's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Cant say I have one apart before or heard of someone taking it apart myself. Hopefully someone will chime in who has. Good luck Rick F. -
Welcome back Brian... Sounds like you wont be bored any time soon. Rick F.
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head water jacket plug.
cimmer replied to Black wing's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Looking at this, I think I would get the o-rings, 21,22,23 and maybe the Spring pin, 24 and replace those parts as they are not included if you just got the Joint, #20. You might as well get enough to do both joints since you will have the coolant out of the engine. So yes I would start with replacing the 0-rings on both and clean the joints up and where they are inserted at also. Good luck, Rick F -
Kickstand (relocated thread)
cimmer replied to Pasta Burner's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
It would appear to me that the hole that the bolt is going thru is oblong now. I would take off the kickstand and give it a good exam and see what isnt right with the assemble and then that will let you know how to go about fixing it properly. Hope that helps. Rick F. -
What some of us have done is to go to Coil on Plug. I am not aware of anyone doing the Dodge Neon coil swap. Check out this link... search and you can find other links also about COPs replacing stock coils.. Rick F
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The ignition system is not compatible as the 92 has a digital and the 87 is analog, this change was started with the 90 VR. The mechanical parts are interchangeable but the A-arm is a different design. Yamaha made a change in the rear suspension between the 87 and 88 model years that carried thru till the end of the 1st gen production. I also believe the 92 has a 4-brush starter where the 87 has the 2-brush starter. The 4-brush being a better starter. Why not just ride the 92 and use what you can for parts that are needed for the 92? Just curious is all. Good luck... Rick F.
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83 Venture Rebuild/Restoration
cimmer replied to Johnnycyclone's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Let us know how they do as I have always been leary or stuff from China but I sure hope they work out for you. The project is lookiing fabulous to say the least.. Rick F. -
83 Venture Rebuild/Restoration
cimmer replied to Johnnycyclone's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Who did you get the diaphragms and slides from? Rick F -
have you adjusted the idle mixture screws yet on the carbs? best practice is to lightly screw them in counting the revolutions as you do this. Use a light touch as it is easy to distort the end of the mixture screw if you tighten them too hard. Back them out to the number of turns that you counted and see if that helps. Do one at a time and you should be able to hear a change in how the engine sounds when they are closed off. I would start with #2 since you saw issues with that one. It is possible you have a clogged idle circuit and it might be why you see gas in that carb. If you need some pictures and reference, the service manual is available to be download from here. https://www.venturerider.org/manuals/1983-1985 Yamaha Venture Service Manual.pdf Also if you havent already, you might want to browse thru this forum looking for information also.. https://www.venturerider.org/forum/forum/10-venture-and-venture-royale-tech-talk-83-93/ Let us know how it goes and if you have questions. Rick F.
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Since you say clean the carbs, I am hoping you set the idle screws and also balanced the carbs after the cleaning. If not I would do that also. Yes it could be a float level off but if that was the case I wouldnt think the cylinder would fire with the enrichment activated as I believe it gets the fuel from the float bowl. When you rev up the engine, does it seem to be firing then on all 4 cylinders? You could also pull off the air cleaner lid and observe the 4 plungers and see if they are all moving at idle or at a slight rev up. The bike wont run proper above 3K rpm with the lid off so it wont work to leave it off to ride it. Good luck and lets us know how it goes.. Rick F.
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The reason putting the air filter lid back on makes a difference is that they are constant velocity carbs and need the vacuum created by the air filter box to make the diaphragms work properly. They will idle a bit but wont rev up must past 3K without having issues with the lid off. Also there isnt a gasket for the carb boot for its seating surface for the head. It uses an O-ring for that. What you can look for is as mentioned before, make sure the carbs are seated properly in the boots and the clamps are in the correct position and tight. Also check and make sure that the vacuum caps on the vacuum ports for carbs 1, 3 & 4 are tight and not cracked and leaking air. Carb #2 has a hose connected to it that run up the the ignition box for vacuum advance. If the bike is idling at 3K, there is a knob on the left side of the bike, under the left side carb rack that adjust the idle speed. Also check the 1st Gen Forum Library and under manuals, you can download a copy of the service manual for your bike. Hope this helps. Rick F.
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Is this my fuel filter?
cimmer replied to YoungWayne's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
The sending unit is located in the tank under the seat. It has a wire running to a spade connection I believe. If you have the service manual, check page 8-29 in the APPX section. This diagram shows cable and wire routing and you can see the fuel level sending unit connection between the frame rail just above the cross member. Also check page 7-67 as they talk about testing the sending unit on that page and show its location. Good luck. Rick F. -
I would be concerned that the air cleaner box is off the carbs and who know for how long. This brings into question as to what condition the motor is in. So NO I wouldnt give them $500 for it. Maybe $100 but dont expect it to run and you might be able to get your money back out of it if you parted it out.. I personally would look for one in running condition and pay a little more for it. Rick F.
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Earl, aka Skydoc_17 has a replacement fuse box he sells or at least did. Check out this link. https://www.venturerider.org/forum/topic/63155-first-gen-vr-1983-to-1993-fuse-box-upgrade-kit/#comment-800670 Hope this helps you out. Rick F
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Cruise Panel Bulbs
cimmer replied to jdross440's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I am not sure what the number would be but Yamaha list this as this.. Bulb (12V-3W) with part number 1NL-83517-00-00 and not available anymore. I would take one out and take it to somewhere to compare it and see if you can find one that works. I have never had to replace one yet so havent taken the time to see if I can find one. The service manual doesnt break it down any better either so just take one and compare to find the correct bulb is your best bet. Good luck. Rick F. -
83 royale radiator
cimmer replied to Bruce Bakken's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
The only other place I can think of is ebay but that isnt going to be any quicker than going to Sport Wheel and getting one. I am not sure if there is any radiator repair shops around anymore that would work on it for you but that might be your best bet if you can find one.. Rick F. -
Clutch slave
cimmer replied to Bruce Bakken's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I would suggest you download the service manual for your 1983 Venture from here.. https://www.venturerider.org/manuals/1983-1985 Yamaha Venture Service Manual.pdf This will give you the information you need on bleeding the brakes or any other service you might need to do to your bike. Under the rubber flap is a bleed valve for the hydraulic clutch. There are a few grease points on your 83 Venture but that isnt one of them. Rick F. -
Smoken hot wire
cimmer replied to Bruce Bakken's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
that is the wire from the stator to the voltage regulator. Possible there was some corrosion on the connectors that increased the resistance and that caused the current to get too night and melt the wire. Most likely you will need to replace the wire and connectors. Rick F. -
When you say the smaller of the two holes, are you aware there are 3 holes between the engine and the throttle blade. The smallest of the holes is the idle Pilot outlet hole for the idle circuit. This hole is passing a fuel/air mixture and if the black stuff is coming out of there, it could be a bad o-ring that is used in the pilot screw set. The other 2 holes appear to be air holes for vacuum the coasting enrichment valve assemble and piston valve/diaphragms. You might have to remove the pilot screw and see what shape the o-rings are in. Be aware there is a spring, washer and o-ring in there and they can be hard to remove. You might need to stick a small stiff wire in there to work them all out and there are replacements available for a number of sources. Hope this helps. Rick F.