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Good question. Never thought of that. I have one of the eBay pumps floating around here somewhere... but where?? Can't remember what I paid for it, but it didn't fit. Something like the bibs were 10mm and needed to be 8mm. It would be a simple thing to take it apart to see what they've done to makes them tick... Pun intended... If I could find it..?? I bought several of the 'Made in Japan' point sets for about $25 bucks apiece, used one, and the rest are in my 'just in case' stash.

Really??... Stew?? Cantankerous?? Curious...Yep.. Concerned..Yep... Using common sense.. Absolutely..

If I were 15 years younger I'da been their huckleberry..... So it's a maybe for me....

A lot of companies do very well with the a retro movement. Too bad Yamaha didn't.... Awesome!!

The only flaw I can see is your reading comprehension and BWBS response to the obvious question. So I'll try once again. How do you pump the lever rapidly (sic) enough to over come the rise of air bubbles in the system when you have to replace the reserve cover between pumps to contain the 'squirt' of DOT 3 fluid from the expansion hole in the base of the reserve. And yes it has everything to do with making a mess using your 'idea' of properly bleeding a clutch. After reading some of your ideas I question whether you really ever have bled a clutch except in your mind ?? I just hope that no one tries to follow your instructions... Hopefully common sense will prevail...

So Camos, educate me. How are you able to pump the clutch lever fast enough to keep the air moving down toward the bleeder valve and not get DOT 3 all over the place??? Now if you're talking about a full airless system with a speed bleeder, you don't need to pump the lever fast...slow will do..

WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tore me up brother. When we were younger my wife said she wanted to have her favorite song 'The Eye of the Sparrow' sung at her service when she passed. She did, and we did.... Gotta go find a Kleenex....

:sign yeah that:

This is crazy. My cousin who lives in Port St Lucie on the east coast got hit fairly hard.. She couldn't find a shelter so went back to the house and rode it out. Called her the next day to see if she was still alive. The phone worked, she has electricity/AC, internet/cable, and only lost a few branches. The canal in the back yard only rose about 4' and never made it to the backyard level... She said she did ride out the worst of it in the bathtub... :-)

Sounds like the only problem you're having is he blacks out and falls.. Otherwise he's healthy and mentally OK. Sounds like walkers and canes, or one of those inside mobility scooters with arm rests. That way if he blacks out he'll come to in the scooter.. Looks like you've done a very nice job of taking care of the family living and care conveniences. Who knows he might make it to 110!!

I usually find what I'm looking for on eBay. EBAYSTOCK

Here's a thought... Perhaps the P.O. couldn't figure out what was wrong with the brakes, threw up his hands and walked away, and the main reason it's empty and been sitting so long... Maybe??

I'm broken hearted......

Heck I enjoyed all the pics... You can never have enough. And the bike is awesome!! On the finish of the aluminum I would have considered anodizing them... I once sold aluminum 1stGen fork braces that were anodized, and the finish looked every bit like the end result on your scoot. I liked it...

You are saying the clutch leaks and you can't find the leak... Gotta ask.. Are you just assuming it leaks or have you bled the system, put in fresh fluid, and then it leaked?? The reason the reserve is empty could be for several reasons, and nothing more than a leaking bleeder valve or a crush washer at the banjos... However, if you do have to get into rebuild mode all the suggestions about buying a new slave are right on... Don't even screw with the old one. If you do get to that point give me a shout and I'll give you a few pointers on removing the slave. Sometimes it can be troubling... :-)

I knew about the DOT paint remover, but I've never had it effect the ABS..?? I know acetone will dissolve abs big time. Fred Voyt used to add pieces of abs to a jar with acetone anytime he had some left overs, and over a time it thickened and became a tar/slurry that made a great abs crack filler/hole repair glue. Kinda like keeping a sourdough pancake batter culture going... :-)

It didn't look like there was anything around it or covering it from the pics... Now I know... :-)

Two things to check before going for the juggler... An overfilled reserve and a plugged expansion hole in the base of the reserve. The level should be kept about half way up the sight glass, and the way to check if the hole is plugged is with the reserve lid off gently pull on the clutch lever and if the surface of the dot three deforms it's OK, but if you're not getting any type of surface movement the hole could be plugged and causing the slippage when the dot three expands with no place to go.

My cousin lives in Port Saint Lucie. She's three years older than I am and widowed with a land line for a phone. When they figured it was time to bug out the freeway was crammed. So she and her daughter went searching for a shelter... The last I heard they couldn't find one that takes pets. So now I don't know what the 'H' she's up to. She's been through quite a few blows, but nothing like this one. Luckily it's heading up the west side of the peninsula. PSL is over on the east side about a third of the way up the coast between West Palm Beach and Vero. Maybe the thing will calm down a bit before getting there. Here's a great sight for following Irma if any one's interested... https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/ The comentary is right on and doesn't leave a stone unturned...

Thanks for the pics. What a breeze to install... Now I have one question. Is there anything that covers the PC board to protect it from the elements?? Or does it just hang there in the breeze... pun intended... :-)

That makes sense, and it's what I tried the first time on the '83. Not much luck and the pump is now sitting in the bottom drawer of the roll-away... Maybe I wasn't pumping fast enough?? BTW I was one of those guys that rebuilt the entire clutch system:mo money: , and all it was was a plugged expansion hole...

Nope you don't pump up the presure like you're doing the brakes...... Don't let this post scare you. Not messy at all unless you kick the DOT bottle over.... ANOTHER WAY.... Here's a procedure write up on the reasons why you reverse bleed and how to do it.... Cme up with this after pulling out what little hair I had left trying to do it a 'normal' way... When trying to bleed a clutch that is completely empty of fluid on a Venture, it’s very difficult…maybe impossible… to get all the air purged out of the lines normally because of the relation of the reserve to the slave. Unlike bleeding the brakes where the pressure is built up by rapid pumping the pedal or lever, the clutch does not build pressure. Squeezing the clutch lever has to be done slowly and constantly. Using this method causes the air bubbles in the lines to move down toward the slave with each stroke. During the release of the lever the air bubble rises upward in the line. Air rises. So in effect you end up with these bubbles rising and falling and going nowhere. I seen threads over the years where the owner has struggled for days to get the clutch properly bled. Reverse bleeding is done by forcing DOT fluid into the slave bleeder valve and forcing the air up the line and into the reserve. This can be done several ways. If you have a Speed-Bleeder installed it will have to be removed. If you have a regular bleeder, the reverse bleed can be done with the valve in and open, or you can remove the valve like a speed-bleeder. I find the removal of the valve the easiest. Take a rubber ear wax remover blub that you can find in your local drug store and snip the tip off a little bit at a time until it fits into the threads of the removed valve. It should fit snuggly and the opening should be a bit off the bottom of the hole in the slave. Remove all the fluid in the reserve. Suck up enough new fluid to fill the bulb, insert it in the threads of the slave and force the fluid into the slave. Keep an eye on the reserve to make sure it doesn’t overflow. Not good. Sometimes you can hear bubbles as they make their way out of the line and into the reserve. If the bulb runs out of fluid it can be reloaded. The hole can be blocked off with your finger while refilling. When no more bubbles appear stick the bleeder valve back into the slave, adjust the level of the fluid in the reserve to about half full, replace the reserve top and you’re good to go. This whole process can be done in about 15 minutes. When done, go for a ride. PS: After first opening up the reserve, lightly squeeze the clutch lever a tad. The surface of the fluid in the reserve should deform slightly. Squeeze hard and you’ll end up with fluid on you and the bike. Not good. What this shows you is that the expansion orifice is clear and functioning. If it’s plugged the hot expanded fluid will have no place to go, and start to push on the slave as if you were actually pulling the lever. The clutch will start to slip. This is also why the reserve should be only filled half way. I have seen owners spend a lot of money rebuilding their clutches, and all they had was a plugged expansion hole. PPS: The slipping problem can also be created by the reserve being over full. The fluid level should be set to the middle of the sight glass. PPPS: Getting to the slave can be a hassle on a 2ndgen. Remove the fake fins and you'll have a ton of room.... Hope this helps

Yep the clutch on all of the ventures are a bit.ch to bleed the way you would think. Reverse bleed it. Force fluid into the slave and up into the reserve. Takes about 5 minutes to do...

Glad to hear that things went OK... Heel Quick... Pun intended....

So times up... What is it?? Somebody give me a link..... I'm still getting the pre-hype video.. OK I found it... Looks like a TD to me.....