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Condor replied to funrider's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
You may be right. I never paid that much attention to the thing. It may be more of a dampener to absorb energy when bottoming out??? Sorta a first line defense against fork oil hitting the top of the fork column??- 15 replies
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Side stand question....
Condor replied to Skid's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
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Condor replied to funrider's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
LOL.... Yep, I'm a LOT...Ahem!!... heavier than you Mike, and I took every bit of my weight to get the threads to bite. I'd like to see one of the Progressive designers stop by and show us all how they do it.... There's not much any of us can do to get rid of the sidestand lean. My '83 leans waaay over, but has never gone down... I've even put a new sidestand on it. Didn't help much. MOF the lean is so great that I actually get on and off from the right side for fear of pulling the bike over. From the right I can yank all I want and it doesn't budge. 'Course long legs help too... I remember Steve (hdhtr) putting the sidestand down and starting to get off and panicing because he thought he'd forgot to get it down and was going over.. It does lean a bunch....- 15 replies
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Condor replied to Condor's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
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Condor replied to funrider's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Yeah, my bad. Forgot about that one. It's an old age thing... Just the same, the 'O' ring is there for a reason, and that piece is part of the preload. Probably more as an air pressure seal. I'm a big guy, and even I couldn't get the threads to bite with the intire PVC. I finally cut the PVC in half, and was able to get the cap started, but still not without some effort. I had to lean on a 18" rachet extension with a 17mm hex socket (made it special) using short bursts before it caught. If you're running without the seal and a long PVC you probably accomplished the same thing as cutting the pipe in half. And if the forks hold air for you, then you're good to go.- 15 replies
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Condor replied to Condor's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Thanks for the info Squeeze. I checked with the local NAPA store and they didn't have them in stock, and the brand wasn't anything I'd heard of before. So I ordered Timkins from my son-in-law. He manages a wholesale auto supply business and I get about half off retail. The price at NAPA was a little bit more, but if I had to order them I might as well go thru my SIL..... -
Wheel Bearing Recomendations
Condor replied to Condor's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I was going to do that. I just didn't want to stick a cheap bearing in there. Timkin, Toyo, are a couple of brands that I'm aware of but there could be others that are better. Another thing is, I see a seal listed in the parts schematic. Would I need to replace these if I went with a sealed bearing??? -
Just want to add. The hold down tab under the gas filler neck cover is generally a phillips screw with a flat and lock washer, and the rubber grommet in the tab has a metal compression spacer in it to keep folks from over tightening the screw and snapping off the tab. They are easily lost. Just be aware of it.
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I thought I'd replace the bearings in the front axle before the trip to Idaho in a couple of weeks. I'm curious as to what type of B6303 bearing I should use. Brand?? Sealed?? Unsealed?? Deep Grove?? US..Japan..China??
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Condor replied to funrider's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
It's been a couple of years since I installed a set of Progressives, but the metal spacer tubes are replaced by the PVC preload spacers. There are washer/cups in the ends of the metal tubes that will fit in the ends of the PVC spacers. Use them. Otherwise you'll chew up the ends of the plastic spacers. I'm not sure what you're refering to when talking about the 'O' ringed pieces, and leaving them out?? The only 'O' ringed part I know of is the aluminum cap, and you need it to seal the forks. They're a ***** to get back on but the forks won't work without them.- 15 replies
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Condor replied to Skid's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
DON"T TIGHTEN THE BOLT!!! It doesn't do a darn bit of good, but will cause the bolt to snap.... and then you will have problems..... Snug is good. The lock nut on the back side will keep it from loosening up. A little play at the end of the sidestand is normal. Sloppy is not, and it's generally not the bolt, but the pivot flange on the frame that's worn. -
New Fork Brace
Condor replied to lonestarmedic's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I donno JB. I didn't do anything to the '91. I actually removed an SB, that fit kinda sloppy, and replaced it with one of the newer black braces that also fit loose. However I didn't have a problem with the screw and hole alignments in either case. BTW, that spacer is about 1/2"-3/4" thick, and would definately put a bend in the tubes if the axle was torqued down without it. But like I first posted, it's strictly a stab in the dark.... -
New Fork Brace
Condor replied to lonestarmedic's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I justhadathought. Maybe, the P/O forgot to make sure the spacer was there and torqued down on the axle before noticing that the spacer had gotten legs?? Ergo, Knocked Knee'd?? Just a wild stab.. -
New Fork Brace
Condor replied to lonestarmedic's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Sounds like you finally got rid of the slappers JB. Good on ya. I can't think of why your fork tubes were 'knocked knee'd', but that may have been a lot of your problem. When I mounted that SB you sent me on the '83 it sorta oozed on, and the holes lined up perfectly. When I put one on the '91 it was a bit sloppy going on, but the bolt holes still matched up exactely where they should be. I never did take a good look at the difference between the Mark I and Mark II tubes...if any, but there's gotta be some because of the anti-dive's being different???? Anyway, glad it's working out. -
Depends on the outside temperature, but probably not. My '83 runs up close to the red but the fan doesn't kick on in 100+ deg weather. I'd suggest checking the thermostat. Does it run hot in cooler weather? If so it's time to start checking things out. Also there's a by-pass valve in the thermo housing below the radiator that may be set in the wrong position. It normally has the top of the lettering pointing toward the five oclock position. You might also try adding water wetter to the coolant. I tried some last year on the Colorado trip. I don't know if it helped, but it didn't hurt. Also on the '83's the impeller on the water pump is plastic, and have been replaced as needed with a metal impeller. If the vanes are dammaged..old age.. you're not getting enough circulation.. Hope this helps.
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Elite & Venom mix?
Condor replied to Numb Knuckles's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
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Me Too..... MOF the thing came without the piece of plastic tube used as a dampner. Emailed the factory and had one in my mail box in about 4 days. NC Great service.
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Double check to make sure that the gears are meshed behind the basket, and the spacer that is releaved on one side is on so the hogged out side is toward the block. MOF, take the thing completely out and put it back in with the book sitting next to you. Also, when you have the basket out, very gently, pull on the clutch lever with your finger over the end of the push rods. It you feel any movement at all your master and slave are OK. Also the pressure plate can be mounted out of alignment. Keep rotating it from hole to hole untill it seats all the way down on the disc pack. Don't ask me why I know all this....
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Wow!! Keep us posted on Bob's condition, and we'll keep him in our thoughts. When you see him, tell 'm I said 'Hey'....
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That's another good idea George. Thanks... I'll try wiggling the bars around a bit and see if anything happens while it's running and hooked up to the meter.
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I may just run the extra ground wire. I don't do braile very well.... I thought I'd check under the seat sinced it seems the problem rears it's ugly head when I'm in the saddle. When I'm standing next to the bike while it's running perfectly. Like George mentioned there's a 15 wire gang plug that may be damaged under there. I could very well have a positive lead that isn't touching anything until I sit on it??? Then when I hit the brakes or the turn signals it closes the loop and show the big draw?? I put the search off until tommorow. Got sidetracked and rebuilt the front brake today. Don't want to do too much all at once....
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Condor replied to Condor's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Glad the brace is working for ya BJ. I didn't have any glaring handling problems with the '83, but did notice an improvement in the twisties, and high speed freeway grove tracking that I had with the Avons. -
OK, Checked out the battery/charge system this morning, and this is what I found. All readings were at the battery posts, initially with the bike cold. The battery voltage was 12.69vdc after resting overnight nothing on. Turned on the ignition key and the voltage dropped to 12.2vdc. Turned on the turn signal and the lamps came on but they didn't cycle. I could hear the breaker trying, but no go. Started the engine. Fired right up. Charge volts showed 14.2vdc at 3000rpm. Took the choke off and the rpm's dropped to 1000. At idle it showed 14.4-5vdc charge, higher than at 3000?? It was consistant. High rpm's showed less than at idle, but still adiquate. Turned on the turn signals. Lamps cycled with the voltage drop, almost nothing. Applied the hand brake, voltage drop again almost nil. The meter on the dash showed mild drops in voltage, but nothing like I experienced yesterday at the signal light. All reading were consistant when the engine wrmed up to operating tempurature. The big variable in all this is that I was sitting on the bike when I experienced the big meter drops in the dash meter readings. Both times. I'm going under the seat and see if I've 'crushed' something.... I'll also check any ground I can find.... And replace the turn signal breaker when I get the chance. Many thanks for all the suggestions. They helped a bunch...