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De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Didn't mean to cause a shoot out on this thread..... Yes I did.. It was raining all day and I didn't have anything better to do.... Plus outside of about half dozen members regularly posting here this place has been dead lately. Nothing like a little controversy to liven things up.... I love touchy subjects... and members... -
I wonder if he could outrun a 9mm..... http://www.cast-aways.com/CONDORPICS/Sam-Side.jpg
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Great idea!!!!
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I love swaps. Wish it were closer.. One of the local independant stores used to have one that was a ton of fun, but a larger one I went to a couple of weeks ago was a waste of space. About a 100 sellers, and I never saw so many beat up Harley junque parts that belonged in the dumpster.... ever. Probably won't waste the $6 bucks again...
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Front end clunking when going over bumps
Condor replied to dz's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
My '83 did the same thing when I first bought it. Progressives cured that problem.... -
Let us know how it turns out.... :rotf:
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De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Heck, my Ariel Square Four had drums at both ends. Stopped fine, but a brake job was a biatch..... -
De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
OK, since I'm so dishonest, and... heaven forbid... at the risk of repeating myself, what makes a seperated front/rear braking system superior to the linked Venture system? Give me a real time everyday non ABS example. BTW ABS by nature is applied to each wheel, ergo the system would have to be unlinked. -
De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Sounds like you're making a good case for linked brakes. Isn't making things simpler, and better, progress?? Since the VR is a touring bike, and not a crotch rocket, why would anyone want to mess with something that works.. 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'. Granted some psychological benefit might be attained by doing something 'cool' to your bike, but other than putting R1 calipers on the MKI's and RSV's I see no performance benefit. -
Probably won't touch the powder coat, but if the paint's the same as on the ABS plastic parts it should lift the paint right off. You might want to keep an eye on it...not sure what the effect of long term exposure will do to the plastic surface, but for the small speck I missed it was on a couple of weeks before I noticed it and the subsurface was clean as a whistle...
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De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Not that we don't like it, as most of us have been riding bikes before the linking of brakes ever came along. The design was an improvement over the 'old' separated brakes. I see no benefit going backwards. Heck, if the old ways were better lets go back to drum brakes.... -
It's amazing how much paint damage one tiny little speck of missed DOT 3 will do to the paint if it's left sitting for a couple of days.... Don't ask me how I know that either....
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My 85 Brown Fox may be dead...
Condor replied to PBJ's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Curious.... Just how much oil pressure does one of these V4's have anyway?? Anyone have a guage hooked up?? And would a 2gen have the same as a 1gen??? -
You're pretty much spot on, and I guess you could say that pressure is built, but it's so small that it probably couldn't be measured. The Speed just lets fluid be moved through the system very quickly and easily. One note of warning. When squeezing the lever on the clutch, with the reserve lid off, be very carefull and cover all the plastic. In the initial 1/4" of lever travel fluid will squirt out of the expansion hole at the base of the reserve, and get all over the place. Not as bad when full. Don't ask me how I know this....
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De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I guess that's why many of the major manufactured backed track bikes are now looking at computorized traction and power controll. Why?? Because it's better. And lets face it a 1stGen ain't a Ninja, and a Ninja ain't a track bike. Also there's absolutely nothing wrong with 1stGen MKII brakes. They do an excellent job, but like I mentioned in a previous post the MKI beta models needed help. Not because the brakes were linked, but because of the equipment. That was corrected with the MKII. Delinking the brakes on a 1stGen doesn't add an iota to their stopping ability. This is being honest.... -
For 1stGens order 3 ea. 8125L (calipers) and 1ea. 8125 (clutch). Order them directly from Speed Bleeder off their website. www.speedbleeder.com Lots of Good info about how to use them on there too.
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De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
There are a lot of things they didn't do to the 2ndGens to save on production costs and keep the retail down... Linked brakes was one of them.. Sensitive rear brakes and OMG locks up by many riders were the result... -
De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Not really... They were designed to work better. -
De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Or put you in a ditch...... If you can lock them up with the OEM system you don't need anything more... Face it. Brakes will only slow you down until the tires loose traction. Outside of the weak front brakes on the MKI's I for the life of me can't understand why anyone would want to mess around with something that works.... :confused07: -
You don't have to build up pressure in the calipers any longer... or the clutch. Just crack them open and pump fluid through the system. Just make sure the reserve doesn't run dry....
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My 85 Brown Fox may be dead...
Condor replied to PBJ's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Pull the middle gear cover and take a look back in there. With that kind of flow it should be easy to spot a leak if there is one in there, and it's right over the collector. Also take a look at the bottom bolt of the middle gear cover... it does double duty as a drain plug. Also check the bottom of the pan and the back screws. You can see them as the collector doesn't quite cover them. Good luck... -
De-linking brakes idea for 83
Condor replied to dingy's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
That's my thinking. If the bike slows and stops reasonably well, why in in the H does everyone find a need to go back in time with a set up 'like I used to have...' :stirthepot: -
Nah.... You Win!!
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From the looks of it the ride should be scenic. The Million Dollar Highway from Gunison south to Durango might be a must do ride. There's a ton of info on the area using Google. http://g.co/maps/mrjgg If you get north of Denver there is also some awesome roads. Ah heck, the whole dam state is scenic.