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I did Don..and with reply. I respect all within your post. Cheers! Joe

Could you use that motor assisted bike, on let's say Mackinac Island? Do they allow them? Just curious....

Noted Don, ...and agree! After my one get-it-off-my-chest-post...there actually won't be any more...lol. Just myself and my gal, enjoying our ride..but only also in the hope that anybody that has an interest, a true interest in perhaps owning this model...that they don't fall to the wayside, ONLY because 'I about cooked my cookies...' is what they read...or saw a live blogger state, while riding the bike...and then just walks away with no further interest, ONLY because they drank his or her critique Koolaid. That's all...in my post...I said to forget their comments, I said to forget my comments...and do your own Due Diligence. Let that be what finally says yeah, or nay, Don. Ok...back to the regular scheduled channel...lol. I rode the bike, I experienced a totally different dialog and outtake...and posed that in counterpoint. But no more...one doesn't have to belabor to death, a topic. Cheers! Oh..about being banned for stating my opinion, I knew I would not be...it was just my quirky sense of humor shining through sometimes...only that. I know that my post didn't attack anyone personally. That would be so uncool and classless. BTW, no apologies for your length of engagement...it was great...detailed, valid...and a good read. I thoroughly enjoyed to the very end! Joe

Well..I support anybody's interest in any bike...bottom line...that he will be riding one...and of his choice! It is a looker, that's for sure!

"Anybody? I dunno...".

"We're all posting in good jest...and actually...with the price of gas...and all. THAT is a great asset. I'm being serious on this. Get's you to the market...I don't imagine you have to get a license, unless it is considered a moped, and what,..... About 80 MPG?" I'd love one of those...and would be riding it all over the place...and every time a car or motorcycle passed me by...I'd smirk...and think; "yeah? What kind of gas mileage are YOU getting, Sucker?!" Cheers n' Beers, Joe

You go, guy! Well..I DO have in technically now...50 miles.....lol. I know...they don't count...lol Now..tsk..tsk...we BOTH KNOW, that ain't no SVTC...unless **Dementia** SAYS that it is...if so...who am I to argue? Enjoy your er...ah...SVTC, Snyper! BTW, love the color..it looks great! Cheers!

You wanna know what the best part of it was...the dealer's bike was RED, baby...RED.... She was fully broken in...and I asked him, if I should ride it in any restricted manner... His reply....RIP IT...and then debrief me... I RIPPED it...and told him he has one H*LL of a ride, Sir!... He said...Joe...you're preaching to the choir. Maybe I should be what my mother wanted me to be...enter the Seminary....lol. Before that though...I need to gargle with Listerine...for my Potty Mouth tonight..lol Father Joe...it DOES have a sort of a ring...ya know?

American, TOTALLY agree. On the ride home...and MAN..was I amazed for I had something to compare...my 750 cc Kawa, was passing more warmth...to both my legs, than EVER did the SVTC. That simply amazed me...and spoke volumes... Have I ever felt uncomfortable on the ZR7S? No sir! So...with even LESS 'felt' engine warmth....coming from the SVTC...Pfffft...THIS IS A CAKE WALK....even in the Southwest...even in JULY! I no longer am if you excuse the pun,...sweatin' Phoenix in July....

Condor...I accept that. I even stated that please...EVERY RIDER ride for themselves...and even forget my opinions...I did say that... I just hope that some of the comments on those blogger channels that said.."Oh thanks...for your review...thank you...I dodged a bullet! " Condor...after 50 miles of real life riding aboard the SVTC...I could barf, in reading those comments again...just barf. I just hope that in reading my account of 50 miles covered, at stop, at crawl..at 80, at 35...that the reader might reassess any or all viewpoints..if he or she was very much influenced by those posts and reports of gobs of heat...cooking legs and thighs. Tonight...the reader got a different version... Cheers, Joe

Chief...I guess tonight, I'm yes...in a 'strong mood'...but I have seen...in over 50 miles of every type of rider operation...that there is no heat that would have you want to get off the bike. There is normal engine 'warmth'. If someone would call that 'gobs of heat climbing up on them,..' then I say...go grab your car. I bought into it...and even though I was getting one...I was already thinking that ok...home to see the folks, would be in late September...oh..because of possibly cooking heat...while in Phoenix...gobs of heat...that would blow me off the bike. Really? Really....30 degrees F will not be any issue, if the base line for feeling NOTHING, is 82F. I felt played...but no longer..I got it off my chest tonight in commentary...and now can move on,....see...I'm moving on...LOL "Happy, happy!" Chief...there is no heat issue...and the bike is magnificent. C''mon, Tuesday! Cheers! Joe

Mr. American...now that I have truly ridden this bike...and for an extended 'true' ride....I no longer fret about ANY state...in ANY month of tour. I did before this ride...thinking that I might not be able to ride in the Southwest home to visit family (Phoenix) in July. Now....pffffst! No problem....not one problem with 'holding a cookout'...what a crock! Many riders were put off in the couple of months after the reveal...and riding aboard with the Blogger Gurus... You could read that in their comments... "Jeez...thanks for posting that...I was looking in anticipation for this bike...but now...no way..if that kind of heat is there..." That poor sucker...dropping his excitement for this bike..and even to no longer wishing to ride the bike to form his own opinions. Poor slob...he lost out. Joe, the now Cool and Happy Fret Free Camper...

I'm not one to be 'sensitive'...but I am one to see a trend, and call it B.S. when I through my own experience never...even felt anything CLOSE that some of these bloggers were cra**ing out, about cooking this...or GOBS of heat? Really...were we riding the same bike? I don't think so... I have no fear...of Texas...or my own home state of Arizona...even in July, now..with this bike. If you don't feel 'heat', at 82F...there is nothing that is going to take you off the bike, even at 90-100F. I lived in Phoenix all my life...lived with a comfortable 105F all the time. The heat thing, is from what I see, total B.S. My take, of course...and of course, yours might be of a different sort and take. I bought into it...I can't believe that I did...and never will again... Bloggers...yeah right...let's move on... As for the torque...it was mind blowing..and linear, right up to the speed that I would have never seen the light of day....25 yards ROTFLMAO! Seriously? It was rock 'n roll right up to 100 MPH! Don't tell anybody that I went that fast...I have a rep to maintain....and about speed...this bike is not about that I can beat another to the red light. It was..about whipping around that semi....and having no fear...that you are going to peter out. THAT was the pull and speed that I was talking about...that which a Grand Tour team would want to see...and on this beast...see's in buckets! ...and oh...I didn't write that post for those that get bored...I wrote that for those that can hang in for commentary. So...no problem Some 'get bored' Some do not...the world rotates. Some of those posts were totally biased B.S., and 50 miles aboard that SVTC, agrees with that! Ok..I feel better now.. and...I never stated people were vindictive...I stated that people might have a mandate and an agenda to dumb down this new Yamaha release...never said they were vindictive...only that the might have had 'reason's to post such. You don't have to be vindictive to do so...or hold an Agenda. Nope... Cheers,

That's the whole point of the post...to let everybody know....there isn't one. It doesn't exit. I know you were spoofing me. BTW, I was joking with a chance of 'being banned'....just personal commentary. Nothing to excite Freebird! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 Lakes...a somewhat, sometime reported SVTC 'heat issue'....not...at...all. Just one fantastic all-in ride experience. On the way back home, on my air/oil cooled 750...the same sense of warmth, or even more in fact...but totally comfortable. Not the word; HEAT, that you'd want to shy away from, or to avoid. Nothing of the kind, regarding the SVTC. Yamaha knew what they were doing, and releasing. Whether you go 50 miles...or 5,000. After now riding one ahead of my own delivery...in hindsight, THANK YOU Honda...for what you did, regarding the 2018 Wing....or I would have merely bought another, and missed the SVTC. Honda Corp...thank you! You did me a blessing-in-disguise, service!

The following as I see it, needs to be said/typed: I got to ride a 2018 Yamaha Star Venture Trans Continental in an ambient temperature of 81 F today. It hit that where I was in bright sunshine. Whether it would be 85, or even 90, would have truly made no tremendous impact to riding the bike at 81 F. I rode the motorcycle for over 50 miles...(he told me I could...and welcomed my opinion as of coming off years with a Gold Wing. I later found out he bought it for himself, with part of it, being my unbridled enthusiasm in anticipation for mine, and that I left a Gold Wing et al. Where he got it from, I didn't ask. It was in great shape and red!) With all that out of the way. I want to open up by saying that my 'intelligent expectations, were met at a level of 600 per cent. I'd say...my experience was 6 times or more, GREATER, than I would have 'hoped' would be my ride, down country lanes, on the Highway 401, up hills..down into dales, all of it. This motorcycle folks..from a guy who has ridden untold thousands upon thousands of miles in over 50 years uninterrupted, is truly The Ring, that Rules Them All... The ride, the torque on tap from the get go. The open full throttle hell-bent response of this magnificent motor...is AT LEAST as fast up taking as the 118 hp, 6 cylinder Honda Gl1800. The first time I took it from 2-6, at full throttle on Sport Mode, it was snapping my head back..and I had to hold onto the bars, for my body sliding backward! This engine, AND FORGET IT BEING 77 horsepower...my gawd...the torque and PULL this thing has...can put your lips back over your forehead...H.S.! When I was then within my 50 miles, (no 15 minute demo...with bikes all around me...no...I WAS RIDING THIS BABY!!!!) Full throttle pulls, slow progressive shifting at 1200-1500 up shifts, etc...5th and 6th gear low RPM roll outs...all of it... I became angry....yep...real anger...that lots of poor souls, looking for a different ride, perhaps looking for this exact ride...are being misinformed, being 'played' by what I feel, could be a group of forum and YouTube posters, that have an agenda...yes...I said it...(here's the banning banter...) AN AGENDA, to want to see this bike fail...to want to punish Yamaha, for NOT putting 'the' engine that they wanted to see in the 'new' Venture. They hate the choice that Yamaha made...are angry with the choice that Yamaha made...and want to get in their 'shots'....to punish Yamaha...and to PROVE that their engine choice, a large bore, tradiional V-Twin WAS THE WRONG CHOICE! That it was air/oil cooled, and not what they wanted to see in the new rig...a liquid cooled engine...WAS THE WRONG CHOICE....and so...they came, these certain bloggers, riders...to any number of Yamaha Demo Days, to want to ride this big bore, V-Twin configuration, READY, like a gunfighter on the streets of Laredo...ready to pull out, and blast anything they did not like about the bike...and most...c'mon...most already had a bug up their wazoo, BECAUSE of the choices Yama Mama made...that did not align with their hopeful expectations. First off....to all those bloggers who had me worked up that this bike has a really bad HEAT Output problem...and 'Oh...it about cooked my left thigh! Oh...man....I started cookin' at the red light. Oh...jeez...it's so hot, who could ride this bike in 80--90 F temperatures...Oh...Oh...." All you folks...and every one of those 50 miles today, says you are spouting a crock of **##*@@! WHAT HEAT? AGAIN....WHAT BLISTERING AND SO UNCOMFORTABLE HEAT? WHERE? BELOW ME? NOT! ON MY LEFT THIGH? NOT....ON MY LEFT ANKLE...NOT! What a crock of was being blogged and YouTubed out there on these Demo Rides...by folks that had absoltuly NO wish to own...did not WANT to own a V-Twin, air/oil cooled...most were NOT HAPPY WITH YAMAHA in their design...and quite frankly...wanted to dumb down the bike. 'Oh man...this is why I would NOT BUY this bike...". What a load of ##&@*, the all of it. Folks, if you want the truth....and you are open to it...and every SVTC owner on this forum will also tell you....THEY HAVEN'T FELT blistering....uncomfortable...oh 'JEEZ'...heat...being given off by this engine...whether (at 82 F) sitting at a red light LIKE I DID, whether being stuck in 15 minute 401 lane closure back-ups LIKE I DID, running at stop and go for 1 mile LIKE I DID, and then rode slow 30 miles per hour loping along in 3rd/4th like I did...or blasting down the roadway at 60-85 MPH, like I did today...in 5th and 6th. Folks...with lower level fairing vents open on both sides of the bike for Summer riding, with the two wind deflectors moved inwards to capture cool air, (that they were designed to , and for to be used), there NEVER...let me repeat that...NEVER was a time that this engine, put out MORE heat than my 750 cc in-line four Kawasaki ZR7S!!!!! Yeah..had to shout that... This bike, runs...COOL...cooler in the cockpit, and on my legs and thighs, than even my in-line air/oil cooled Kawa, at only 750 CC's Am I banned yet, Freebird? (hope not...) I believe that after actually riding this bike...experiencing this bike over 50 miles...in traffic, out of traffic, at crawling along, at 30 mph, at 80 mph...by my own, and not somebody's ELSE'S YouTube commentary...that there is absolutely to this man's mind...that there is a conspiracy with intent by some, to see this model, this first year release, and the choices that Yamaha made regarding this bike...TO FAIL...because (sour grapes) it did not match their metrics and expectations. Simply that.... I can't imagine how many potential adopters, have been put off...scared off...by quite a few riders...that HAD NO SKIN IN THE GAME...had no intentions of seeing this motorcycle as their possible next...had no intention whatsoever...than came on YouTube, came on varied Forums, and told their tales of SVTC woe..."there was so much heat put out..that I felt it was cooking my leg....blah, blah....B.S....blah. Folks...FORGET their comments, if they had never said, they had gone to the demo, with a true interest in mind...to purchase this bike. Their comments are totally 'glad I didn't buy this...because wow...the heat...the heat nearly cooked my leg..." are biased as H*ll! Forget their comments...heck, forget MY comments...and please...if you want a change up of venue...if you want a new ride, for ANY of your good reasons...and have been dissuaded by what you have read, or what you have 'rode along with' by bloggers such as ..well, I won't name them... You wil be shooting yourself in the foot..if you truly bypass riding this motorcycle for yourself....being sure that the bike has been configured for the season you are riding in....Summer Fall, Spring....open the lower vents...move in the air deflectors to collect cool air...and RIDE...you will surely feel a warmth...but folks...jesus....it is only a nice hugging warmth...that any engine will put out...even my 750 Kawasaki...but in NO WAY, NO WAY, are you going to feel uncomfortable...going to feel that this heat is rider-unbearable. That, my friends...with 50 miles in the saddle...on this magnificent motorcycle...those outlandish comments...is a crock of you-know-what!!! Ride for yourself...and foment your own opinions....not rely on other's riding comments...and heck...even my own here....ride for yourself! If this bans me...then it was a great run, here folks...but it had to be said. Some really bad copy was being published since the reveal...and I, and so many others, must have at some of it, bought into it. I still purchased, on intelligent expectation. My ride today...two days before Charlotte comes home..SHOWED me, that my years of riding...my years of "hmmmm reading that Yamaha Engineers put out a bike that was for some, cooking their legs, thighs, that..but from my experience, over 50 years of riding air, air/oil, liquid cool motorcycles, ....THAT doesn't, or didn't gel, or sounded right".... Folks...my ride today...rewarded my 'intelligent expectations, by over at least 6 times what I had HOPED FOR, to experience. Off the soapbox....but it has to be said....there is a conspiracy of sorts...my ride today made that clear... This bike, runs normal, and runs cool. You feel warmth, you do NOT feel HEAT! You feel no more engine warmth output than any air/oil cooled, inline four 750cc! Cheers Can't wait...and glad that I did NOT make the opinion of another, the Opinion that RULES THEM ALL. And that includes my opinion, quite frankly. If you have ever thought of owning a traditional large bore, high torque at low maintained RPM...then go do yourself a favor....go out for a ride...(put the bike into summer or fall mode...) and see for yourself. Trust me on one thing, you won't be coming back smelling like Prime Rib...sorry, you'll still have to take your lovely co-rider out for dinner, to get that.... Joe

.....my dealer said that we are definitely on for Tuesday. Good stuff! ! Folks...I just have been in point/counter point with Don (XV1100SE) and in hashing around in my mind...the guy on the right shoulder, the guy on the left shoulder...I have come to a conclusion in all this. Everybody has of course a right to their opinion, but not (in my books) if they use their opinion to deny another of a course of action, or to influence an action, or non-action. I hope that everybody that is interested in the latest round of new bikes from the likes of Honda...persue their own Due Diligence, and the same for those looking in Yamaha's camp. With having typed this...I am going to just delete my post, and let all the dust settle where it will. There is no bad ride, no worse technology over another, if THAT is the tech and/or the motorcycle, you choose, to take you along the road. The riding part, is all that matters...water cooled, air cooled, elephant spraying bike jugs cooled...it's all good. Soap box now being dismantled and broken up.......lol Cheers! First, Second and Third Generation Ventures...if they RUN...and are PAID FOR...THAT is GOOD! Nothing more needs to be said...(thumb's up)

Just cut the grass...(yes..my neighbors were just thrilled!) "Look at what time some jerk is out there cutting his lawn, Sheila! It's Saturday morning for **#**#'s sake!". That would be my neighbor, Bill...but Bill doesn't own a motorcycle, and Bill sleeps in on Saturday, and myself and CowFace, have a date with the open road...up to Lake Simcoe, and Willow Beach...where my wife's family has a cottage. It's a good excuse for a day trip...and speaking about the wife...she is really (NOT HAPPY) to not have a bike in the garage, that she will also swing a leg over...I invited her onto the Kawasaki ZR7S. Her all-the-time-response; "I don't DO Kawasaki ZR7S's...YOU DO...when is our Yamaha coming?" "Monday or Tuesday." "It **# darn well better...for this.... is getting OLD, Joe!" I hear ya...hon...see you in the evening...have a great day!" "Yeah, yeah...whatever...you too!" "I'm about to shut down the computer....slink past the kitchen...quietly get outside and open the garage door...back CowFace out...start him up...and GET THE HECK OUTTA DODGE...and FAST!" I'm sure, I'm going to hear some more...Yamaha this...Yamaha Canada that.... I need a ride to prepare myself, folks... Y'all, have a great day...and if riding...always...ride ...to ride again! https://www.lsrca.on.ca/conservationareas/conservationareas/willowbeach Joe

Ok, I'll look to see if there is any. Obviously there is, or they wouldn't have the feature in the mask!

I see that there is a place to enter a discount code. Anybody have one?

Please say again, where you ordered the full 2018 Yamaha Star Venture Service Manual? I'm going to order one as well. If it can tell the Yamaha dealer mechanic how to do something, step-by-step...I want the same 'instructions' sitting available in my home garage!

We'll certainly take all precautions, that's for sure. She's a beaut...and I want to keep her looking that way!

On a serious note, I TOTALLY agree with you. We had similar experiences. I could have enjoyed another month or two aboard my GL1800, but got a good deal from the dealer (what he could offer me) and played ball with him, when he asked if he could move it to a couple that was already lined up to view and possibly buy it. We did that...met the couple...nice folks...and they didn't waste one minute humming or hawing. They cut the dealer a hold cheque that very afternoon. So..we had no 'couple' bike (my wife will NOT even get on the Sport Tour) since October. I thought that I would see Charlotte 3 near about the end of February, knowing there would be days here and there, without salt, etc...that I could sneak a ride..and break in the bike under ideal outside temperatures. That was the plan, in my head, anyways. It didn't happen. So...for all the B.S. that I went through with Yamaha Canada, and I thought also my dealer..(turns out, all the delays, were not his doing...he was waiting on it as much as I was. Another dealer tried to take a shot, by supplying me with incorrect 'intel'.) Plain and simple, was this...they had a way better realization in the PreOrder thingy....and frankly, were using anybody's else confirmed orders...that is, you ordered through your dealer past the PreOrder Program...and gave your dealership a $500.00 purchase deposit. So...they used my delivery date unit, to pass onto another PreOrder customer. They simply didn't make enough 2018 Red SVTC Canadian Models. THAT was the thick of it. So, as you read, I finally am getting it, in the first week of May...ordered in October. Never seen this before! For them shimming me, on getting the bike around February as my dealer said, it would most likely come...my Yamaha Canada-We're Very Sorry-Mia Culpa 'surprise' was/is, that I am getting a second Proximity Key Fob as is the three others who all of us, came off the Assembly Line, last of all. We didn't ORDER last! For my dealer's part, and they thought it sucked as well...where in my deal I had a 10 % off all and any accessories ordered, he is 'working it out' in house, that I can get at least a 25 %, to as high as a 50 % off on my acc's. I spent: Accessories---> Canadian Yamaha Canada Prices; 1 LOWER FAIRING WIND DEFLECTORS (2DF-F83M0-V0-00)$380.95 1 CARRY-AWAY SADDLEBAG LINERS (2DF-F847U-V0-00)$132.95 1 MINI DAY COVER (2DF-F81A0-T0-00)$148.95 1 BILLET BRAKE PEDAL COVER (2DF-F720A-V0-00)$207.95 1 BILLET TOE SHIFT LEVER (2DF-E81A0-V0-00)$291.95 1 BILLET HEEL SHIFT LEVER (2DF-E81A0-T0-00)$177.95 1 HEATED RIDER BACKREST (2DF-F84B0-S0-00)$367.95 1 J&M HELMET HEADSET PASSENGER LOWER EXTENSION CORD (DBY-ACC56-13-22)$112.95 2 J&M HELMET HEADSET CONNECTION CORD (DBY-ACC56-13-20)$297.90 Total: $2,119.54 minus 10%= $1,907.58 plus 13% sales tax:$247.98 Total: 2,155.57 CDN ...so, it might end up being better than the above Total amount I show. So, that's about it. If I get the second Key Fob...I'll call it even. Yooper...the bottom line, as you say...is that we both have our bikes...not vapor-ride, and both will have many great adventures before we put in the Sta-Bil, plug in the Battery Tender, and wish them happy dreams until next Spring. I was spec'ing out a 2018 HD Road Glide Ultra, when at about the end of my patience rope...but left the Harley Dealership, KNOWING that I was never going to play the HD bait' n' add-on game. Wasn't going to stack on another $10,000.00 to approximate 80 percent of what comes standard with our beauties. Nope, would have kept riding my Kawa...and looked for a used two or three year old 'something else'. Joe

I've got an idea...we need to be like Hog Farmers...I need to bring Charlotte over to meet your Stud. We put them side by side in a garage, lock the door, turn out the lights...and go for a couple of beers. In a few months, when Charlotte drops a litter of SVTC's, wait for 3 months, after weening, and I put them out on Craig's List at around $23,000.00, per 'Little Red'? As always, as the stud owner of 'Huge Smiles', Yooper, --->you'll get your choice of the SVTC litter first, and gender. The rest, I'll move...lol I'm going to have to create a website, for the new breed... 'Joe's Pureblood SVTC's' --->each, 100 percent certified healthy, and road worthy, comes with 2 dealer Pedigree Papers. Comes with all shots, and all sales final. Taking orders, with a $500.00 deposit. "We'll call you when it's time to take YOUR cutie home,...to meet the family!"

I just Googled a pic of it. Man...it's a nice lookin' bike. I also have no experience with it...but if you get it, I'm sure it will bring smiles to you and the Mrs.! Good luck, in the purchase, if that is in your cards.