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@bpate4home posted a link where a patient's wife sued to treat her intubated husband, Jeffrey Smith, with Ivermectin. This is absolutely true. The Hospital said no, because it is not in their protocol, specifically against the CDC protocol, and specifically against the WHO protocol. (I'm not even going to bother to post all the links on this because they will never be read by those who need to read them.) The guy effectively made a "DYING DECLARATION" to his wife, which is admissible in court. (For you law types, look up what a Dying Declaration can do for you.) The Judge, acting upon a DYING DECLARATION had nothing to lose and chose to order the hospital to treat the guy with Ivermectin. The Hospital, that also now had nothing to loose since the Judge just ordered them to treat the intubated guy with Ivermectin, then did so. The guy will die shortly. We will all see it. And, the point of the matter is, that it could have been completely prevented if the guy would just have accepted a Covid Vaccination.

@uncledj says, "The point(s) I was thinking of were that the mask Nazis use emotion, demonization to manipulate." Mysterious words bordering on accusation. I have done none of the above of which you imply. @uncledj says, "They are prone to embellish, or misinform, while screaming that those they disagree with are putting out misinformation...." Again more mysterious words bordering on accusation without forthright doing it. BTW, the ones so far that are mis-informing everyone, are the ones that have presented their "proof" to me, and I have dispelled that mis-information. @uncledj says, "They like to imply or directly accuse those who resist the mask or jab of being outright stupid,....which is absolutely not the case." Again, more round-about general accusation. I have pointed out errors in some posters own documents and presented mine in addition. I have accused not a single person, by general accusation or inuendo as a group, or by directly stating to any person that they are stupid. Period. @uncledj says, "We simply have reviewed the info and choose to decide for ourselves." And therein is my concern, because I don’t feel, given the arguments I have been given here, with the documentation provided by opposing posters of the Covid Vaccination, that any serious review of the Vaccination data...has happened at all. I feel if you were in San Angelo, and had given the data any serious accredited medical peer review, at all, that you may not feel the way you do. I feel if you gave the data any review at all from balanced sources you would voluntarily CHOOSE to get a Covid Vaccination. @uncledj says, "We choose what to allow into our bodies and what risk level to accept, whether that risk is of contracting covid, or dealing with the spike protein effects of this non-vaccine vaccine." Okey dokey. But you still have not pointed out any points that I have previously missed in conversation with anybody. In closing, VENTURERIDER.ORG I bet is a more well seasoned group than most. Why have you folks that have chosen to not get a Covid vaccine, have no problem with any other vaccine, like Shingles? The Covid Vaccine has been given over FIVE-BILLION times around the World (and counting) and carries extremely minimal risks for the benefit it provides to yourself and others. Since it is FREE it is the lowest cost insurance with the greatest payoff. At least I will get to watch some Football Glad to hear your 2nd Mom is doing better. Please go get a covid vaccination for you and others. Thank You.

@bpate4home says Dr. Brytney Cobia does not exist, prove me wrong. Well, OK then. https://www.the-sun.com/news/3326005/who-is-alabama-doctor-brytney-cobia/ https://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-brytney-cobia-xylf9ty https://health.usnews.com/doctors/brytney-cobia-1856965 https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/im-sorry-but-its-too-late-alabama-doctor-on-treating-unvaccinated-dying-covid-patients.html @bpate4home says this ONE Dr. Destroyed the ENTIRE narrative against Covid and mask wearing. Any other viewpoints are suspiciously being Censored. https://hancockcountypatriots.blogspot.com/2021/08/dr-dan-stocks-presentation-to-mt-vernon.html https://health.usnews.com/doctors/daniel-stock-479689 Really, the Covid Virus is world-wide. Folks in Scotland have never heard of this guy. Folks in Canada have never heard of this guy, AND WHY? Because the USA government, that is so lousy at everything else, is managing to cover up all the dissenting Dr.s with opposing information on a world-wide basis. You really cant believe this can you? Really??? I just showed you a video of 8 local Dr's right here in my home town that are so far removed from government control down here in Texas and being over run with Covid patients that they would laugh this guy out of the building. @bpate4home says that in this super technical article they give bovine strength VACCINES (not de-wormer) for the purpose of Vaccinating Animals. To which I heartily agree. The article says the best method to contain the virus is to VACCINATE them BEFORE they are shipped to auctions or feedlots (so they dont infect others). How about that? Here is a screen print of your article.

@ChiefGunner mentioned Obesity, Drug Use, Heart Disease, Cancer, and some other things and asked where is my compassion for those folks. I cannot catch any of those items from those folks, and they are not, have not, and will forseeably not, be clogging up my home town hospital with their suffering and making those around them suffer needlessly as well because they will not take a voluntary step on their own. (Yes we have cancer patients, heart patients all the usual stuff, but they do not exceed the capacity of the Hospital thereby preventing treatment for other ailness, like motorcycle wrecks, etc.) In my compassion, if I could prevent, PREVENT , suffering in those people from Drug Use, Heart Disease, Cancer, Obesity, etc by a simple, free, safe, proven vaccination for these items, then I WOULD SURELY ADVOCATE HEAVILY TO THEM TO GET THE VACCINATION for those items.

@uncledj said, " Clicked on it and read through about 1/2 of it. I got the gist.... Your post makes me realize you've missed the point of several of the other posts" I'll take the bait. I'll bite. Care to enlighten me on which points I have missed out on? I have read those other posts, fully understand them, have refuted their inaccurate contents, have refuted the contents some poster thought their own posts said (but didn't), posted informative information that may help a person go get a Vaccination, and then posted events unchallengeable by anybody, using events from MY OWN CITY. I don't really care to split hairs about the 4% of the 16% of the 86.4% of the 7 people that this or the other happened to upon getting a Covid Vaccination. The Covid Vaccination works, and you should get one period, right now, voluntarily. I can tell you this, everyone in the Shannon Hospital now is not Cherry Picking their treatments. They want whatever the doctors can shove into them as fast as possible. San Angelo is in a bad situation (as is the rest of Texas). I started out saying I cant change folks mind on an internet medium. I am not surprised where this conversation is right now.

As of 08-28-21. I doubt anyone will read through or click the link below. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late. A few days later when I call time of death, I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same.” DR. BRYTNEY COBIA https://www.kxan.com/news/national-news/should-i-feel-empathy-for-vaccine-refusers-who-get-covid-19/

@Argo, no. The "live" unvaccinated Covid folks are clogging up the hospital in San Angelo, and the "dead" unvaccinated Covid folks I fear will be clogging up the morgues here, like they did last year in Austin & Houston (How soon folks forget refrigeration trucks full of body bags). God forbid I should get into a motorcycle wreck as there will be no room in the Shannon Hospital for me either. What really kind of chaps my ass is that none of you have offered ANY sympathy at all!! "Gee Du-Rron, sure am sorry it is tough down in San Angelo." Would have been nice.

@ChiefGunner... in the article you presented... she advocated ivermectin.....

@ChiefGunner I wish I knew how to quote on this thing, but wrong again on the fertility thing https://www.muhealth.org/our-stories/does-covid-19-vaccine-affect-fertility-heres-what-experts-say https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/planning-for-pregnancy.html I really dont know how to quantify your remark of the 0.00008% of folks not getting covid at all by the Vaccination process and having a weak(er) immune system, vs, those folks that have caught covid and remained standing. Even if you have had Covid in the past, it is recommended for best protection to get a Covid vaccination right now.

@ChiefGunner, put it this way. The Covid Vaccination will probably keep you out of the hospital, and if you do go in you probably wont die. I believe if you get a vaccination you wont have much to worry about, even here in San Angelo, for the next fer months until it is time for a booster. If I should have to go to the hospital, and I can "improve my survival chances", which is what your link says, and really what it comes down to, then at that time I would personally tell the doctors to give me anything they got, as much as they can, as fast as they can. The debate is staying out of the hospital in the 1st place by getting a vaccination that is also free (as your ladies article advocates low cost health car) , the debate is not, what expensive, rare, drugs you give a person that is on the dead-roll once they get in the hospital.

@ChiefGunner... I dont want to go to the Hospital with severe Covid .... at all.

@ChiefGunner I might also add that you should not just "Self-Treat" with Hydroxychloroquine. You must get sick with Covid, put in a hospital, and then to be in a very elite group to get any. The Vaccination is free, for anyone over 12, and is designed to keep you out of the Hospital. In San Angelo, please read carefully, San Angelo I say, the dead ones are currently the unvaccinated ones.

@ChiefGunner, no, at this time Hydroxychloroquine is not. Plus, it also costs a fortune, which is out of the realm of this ladies article advocating low cost use. Horribly expensive compared to the 5 Billion doses of the vaccination already given and cannot be made in the needed quantity either. https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or https://www.goodrx.com/hydroxychloroquine

@ChiefGunner, this lady is advocating in this quote, you presented, to treat folks with "Ivermectin", an over the counter de-wormer for farm animals available at Tractor Supply. This is what Caleb Wallace did and what he advocated others to do, (please see the plethora of articles I have attached which mentions this). It didn't work. Aren't we past that yet. In addition to Ivermectin costing very little, according to the lady, may I also point out, that at this time, a Covid vaccination is completely FREE of charge to anyone wishing to have one. Unless you have some Ivermectin already around for deworming your mule, a Covid vaccination is the lower cost alternative for humans.

Yall ... please keep telling me the death of any antivax/anticovid person is just for fear mongering and that no such deadly virus really exists. https://sanangelolive.com/news/health/2021-08-28/freedom-defender-caleb-wallace-dies-covid-19 Yall.. please keep telling me that 74% of the 62% of 100% of those folks that get covid just have a really bad horrible cold with long lasting side effects (death) is just a figment of my uneducated imagination. Tell me again how falling in the bathtub or the effects of the common flu are much worse. https://sanangelolive.com/news/health/2021-08-27/famous-texas-game-warden-dies-covid-19 Yall... please keep telling me that the vaccination is in itself deadly or is just hooey and will provide no protection against Covid at all, when in my own home town that Covid is running rampent. (Texas statewide in general) https://sanangelolive.com/news/health/2021-08-28/six-unvaccinated-patients-die-covid-19-one-day Yall... I live and work here in San Angelo. I see with my own eyes what is going on around me. Please tell me this is just a bad dream. https://sanangelolive.com/news/health/2021-08-27/high-covid-infections-continue-plague-san-angelo

I have refrained from providing data from The CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/index.html because I know that there are those that will not accept that data and the conversation will be lead astray to another problem. I have refrained from providing data from World Health Organization https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-(covid-19)-vaccines?topicsurvey=v8kj13)&gclid=Cj0KCQjwvaeJBhCvARIsABgTDM5fnf_lknDLWkqCbnp1gNoBwhzc1gdJo4fXXOoL3a0Dnzxlf1zSpZ0aAg0EEALw_wcB because there are those that will not accept that data either and the conversation will be lead astray to other unrelated problems as well. I have refrained from providing data from 5 Billion doses given that proves the vaccine is safe and effective https://www.google.com/search?q=world+covid+vaccine&oq=world+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i59j46i67i199i465j0i67l2j69i60j69i65.2234j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 because some of you will not accept that data either and will lead the conversation further off track. I have only provided data from my own Community and the associated data that goes along with it. This IS what is happening here and no debate about a fringe case here there and yonder will change that for what is ACTUALLY hapening here in San Angelo right at this moment. Yet some of you still find a way to talk about a fringe %0.000008 of unverified cases supposedly gone horribly wrong after vaccination and then to twist my data to fit your own narrative. Really folks, this IS what is going on in San Angelo, my own home town, I work in a company of 1000 people where dozens are out now and I can trip right down to Shannon and see the totality for myself.

@bpate4home no, these are not the extremes. Folks may say that, to bolster the ideas they have in their head and to ignore what is going on in front of them and to degrade opposing information they may receive. I started out by saying it is impossible to change folks minds on any internet medium. I still stand by that and I am not trying to change yours. I am only reporting what is going on in my city by providing documentation I have, and to provide nationwide links like covidactnow.org, all of which may violate any antivax/anticovid persons sensibilities. No need to ballywho about extreme statics on this that or the other. Assisting Covid folks, as of 08-28-21, is taking up very nearly ALL of Shannon's ER capacity. Shannon has run out of beds (and/or Nurse capacity) as of 08-26-21. Shannon has stated this. The local newspaper has run articles on it. The Shannon doctors have made videos about it. Individual Doctors have made videos. Gov Abbot is in critical nurse search mode now. Texas has been rated as "Severe". This IS what is going on in San Angelo right now. I hope it is better where you are.

@bpate4home the wait is grueling because you are in a room with hacking people. The Doctors are tired. In San Angelo, the leader of The San Angelo Freedom Fighters group was an avid detractor of the Covid Vaccine, wearing masks, and any other measure that might prevent the spread of Covid. He gained national attention. After his 7-4-21 rally he got sick and toughed it out till around the end of July when he went into the hospital. Since 8-8-21 he has been intubated and unconscious. He has 3 little kids and a pregnant wife he was responsible for. Here is the full newspaper article. As of 8-27-21 it doesnt look good for him per a news release by his family. Caleb Wallace had no underlying health issues. This is what is going on in San Angelo right under my eyes. https://sanangelolive.com/news/san-angelo/2021-08-27/family-confirms-caleb-wallace-has-hours-left-live StandardTimes082221.pdf

@RDawson in the video I supplied above the doctors also talk about their nursing shortage in Texas. In the video it also states that the State Money has dried up. Gov Abbot has requested an additional 2500 nurses as of 8-12-21. There may be a bed there, but no nurses. The wait time in the San Angelo Shannon Emergency Room is about 10 hours now before even being seen. This is what is going on right now. https://abc13.com/covid-delta-variant-surge-nurses/10946087/

@saddlebum I read your reply and I also read the article you submitted that was written 02-06-17. The folks you cite that believe the World was flat and also in Human Sacrifices, do not work at Pfizer today. Yes, I agree with you that the further you go back in history the wilder things get. The article from 02-06-17 is a great read in the start/advent of disinfectant evolved from disecting cadavers and that germs during childbirth was the cause of a womans death. Handwashing was found to be an effective solution. Yup.

It is a shame we have become such binary people. Some thing is either right or wrong. Left or Right. Up or down. There really is a middle ground folks. One thing I have found is that it is impossible to change folks minds on any internet medium. It just cant be done. No matter how much artillery is brought to the conversation, the two sides will either bring up fringe information that only applies to %0.000009 of the cases involved or cling and quote old articles that do not reflect the current state of affairs. The Covid vaccination will not ratify one president or vilify another president. The Covid vaccination will not help or hurt those things going on in Afghanistan. The Covid Vaccination will not solve or make worse the horrible immigration problem on the Southern Border of the USA. The Covid Vaccination will not support or deny the existence of any government conspiracy theories. The Covid Vaccination is only for YOU. By taking the Covid vaccination, in doing so protects/lowers your chances of getting Covid and an extreme hospital stay and protects those around you as well. By accepting a Covid vaccination that is all you are doing. The Covid vaccination is USA Invented, Free (it is already paid for by tax dollars whether you take it or not), safe and World tested (5 billion doses and counting), and as of todays date recommend for everybody over 12 years old by: The CDC, WHO, and 100% of the doctors I have talked to in person. (San Angelo TX is rated as "Severe" in terms of Covid cases and our hospital is out of beds). In Las Vegas odds there is no reason not to get a Vaccination. The middle ground here is that you can get a Covid Vaccination and still worry/fret/try to solve the other World Problems at hand. Wearing a mask diffuses direct air/cough and lowers the effective target range of Covid. Here is what is happening in San Angelo right now. You can change the link to find out about your city. https://covidactnow.org/us/metro/san-angelo_tx/ Here is a video made 8-21-21 of our San Angelo Hospital Doctors saying they are worn out, that kids are getting Covid, and asking folks to get their vaccination. https://www.facebook.com/ShannonMedicalCenter/videos/1582222058784000

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I would spray some soapy water on the hole which will help you detect even a small leak. If no leak, then like mentioned above, squirt some vulcanizing compound in it and keep on riding. Looks like you have lots of tread left.

I will tell you the guy that wrote the message to me was Sonny Rattan. Yes, no warnings, (Dont do that again or anything) just bye....