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I agree with all the ancillary information... but the number actually on the burned out relay is the 5EA one, which is designated side stand relay in the manual. I will cut some wire out of the loom tonight, but I think we agree on what I have... however what do I order?? hahahaha... There has to be a typo in the book that is, naturally, carried across everyone's parts databases. Right? Like check this out... heres a site where the 11 pin relay is called a side stand relay and is listed under the second code G8R-30Y-J http://pinwallcycle.com/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=606024 Guess I'll order this one Thanks again ...

So as I was shopping for the 5EA-81950-00-00, I saw a picture of the pin pattern that looks nothing like I have in my hand. Then I realize what I am finding online is actually a 5EA-81950-20-00 ... so I am assuming they are nto the same... I punched in the other number on the relay which is G8R-30Y-J and what I am holding in my hand pops up... But I can't find that second number anywhere in the parts book. Can anyone clarify what is going on here? Is the the 20-00 suffix versus the 00-00 one? but then why doesnt the G8R-30Y-J show up anywhere? And what is this relay really for??? These pictures are what my fried relay is ... two numbers on the front and the pin pattern I have. And here is what I am finding for the pin pattern on the 5EA-81950 relay

Turns out thats what the part number says too... but please see my confusing post update above. Thanks!

OK ... so ... although I found the relay hanging in the center like bomgobobny said I fished it out, cleaned and chipped things off and removed it. The part numbers is the 5EA-81590 so it refers back to the side stand relay... but it was definitely not under the left side cover like the service manual shows... Plus this was mounted exactly where and how bongobobny said - rubber hangy thing slid onto a metal tab. Plus when I do look into the void... there is no starting circuit cut-off relay in there like there "should" be. This relay has 12 tangs... seems like a lot for a side stand relay... I am so confused. I checked the schematics and it looks like the Starting cut off relay #11 - has a bunch of wires as you would expect ... but the parts manual references my part number being "for side stand". Ron Ayres calls it a relay assemble "for side stand" It this some kind of misleading translation error or something? Why does the side stand interlock need anything but a switch at the stand? Any ideas??

Not really on a side. There is a plastic body panel that passes under the seat area, and connects the two side panels. It was kinds of swinging loose in there... kind of looks like it might have been mounted like bongobob said... Not sure, but thats where I found it.

Interesting... because what started this whole thing was a fuel pump problem... Would that relay be mounted behind the plastic body panel under the seat that connects the two side panels? This was swinging loose there... Found it by accident while trying to plan a new fuel pump location.

A location picture... https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5VRvGxWbFElQXdPZHJYczZ3TGM Thanks again

So, it's finally warm enough to swap in a Facet fuel pump, and as I'm digging in the space below the seat - in front of the battery, in the area that would normally be behind the plastic cover I find this burnt relay. I am hoping someone can tell me what it is?? I am not sure if it is #39 or #40 in the RSVparts pdf, or maybe I am way off base. Any chance this runs the fuel pump?? What does it run? I suppose I can figure that out if I was sure what it was, or what to check to figure out what it is. I don't suppose some Gorilla Glue will help? Thanks again as always Mike

Putting this in and ran into a couple of issues. Well, actually a question and an issue, which is a separate post. The question is, does this fit in the same spot as the OEM pump came out of? If not, where did you relocate it to? Thank you all as always. Mike

OK... hmmm..... So I know it will run on gravity for a little while... I guess I need to do that and see if the pump runs??? I'm kind of lost here now... Thanks

GOT IT! Whew.......

Ok, it's finally warm enough, and with time enough, so I have an update and some questions. I have the Mr. Gasket hanging out with a hose connected to its outlet. Open fuel & turn on the power - kill switch on ... nothing. Try it again & nothing. No noise, no pumped flow. Grab the Fluke and there is voltage feeding the pump at the molex plug. Plug everything back together ... nothing, then something. I got a decent flow with the pump humming away for about 3 seconds. Then it stopped. I could repeat that a few times by turning the key off then back on. Each time I was lucky if it ran for 3 seconds... maybe 2. Shouldn't that pump run continuously until it is stopped by pressure (from the floats rising in the carb bowls)?? Each time after it stopped running fuel continued to trickle by gravity through the filter and pump (SO SHUT THOSE PETCOCKS!!), so its not a fuel supply problem to the pump. Do you think I am correct in saying it is the pump? How else can I check this? Is there anything else to check?? Thanks as always.

Ok, thanks all ... today is another day... I got it before but maybe just a bit too cranky today! We will see!

Ok... so ... I've gotten it out before ... but can't seem to figure it out now. It's loose... bolts are out of the bottom sides.. the secret screw in the top tab... hoses out of holder'inner ... I can't figure out how to get this thing out of there.. Whats the secret? I mean besides a sawzall... although .... :bang head::bang head::bang head::bang head::bang head::bang head: Maybe I just need a break... heh... TIA

This is where I keep seeming to end up so I agree. Either the pump isn't really pumping much ... or anything ... and the bike is running as long as it can on what little the pump does pass along ... plus gravity. Then it dies. I'll go out and poke around as soon as it warms up a little. Thanks

So heres an update. This morning I started the bike with the gas cap off - to eliminate and tank venting issues. The bike ran for almost an hour then died the same fuel starved death.... so its not a vent issue. Within a minute after the bike died I tried to restart ... wouldnt catch. Turn it off and on and I heard the Mr. Gasket pump run for about 2 seconds then stop ... still wouldnt catch. Did that maybe 3 times all with the same results... Then on about the 4th try the Mr. Gasket ran for about 5 seconds then stopped .. then the bike fired up fine. SO.... hmmmm... now what? Not a venting issue Not a pickup tube issue I guess the only things left are the pump and filter. Any opinions? I also know there are threads here about going gravity feed, so is that a real option? Any experiences with that? I'll need to check that out ... Anyway TIA as always. & opinions always welcomed

If I am reading this right, this happened when your fuel filter was only a few months old, and hasn't happened since even with the same (March 2016) filter in it ... or did you change the filter? Just curious... I am definitely changing mine anyway ....and checking the vent. Thanks

This should be done too I suppose. In your experience do I need a new gasket for the petcock? Or reuse the old one? Thanks

The fuel filter is 1-1/2 years old so maybe 4000 miles. That should be an easy swap. how did you finally troubleshoot the pump to find it not working when hot? Thanks

Perfect, thank you. I never realized there is room under the passengers backrest!!

So, lets see if I have this right. You ran one hot wire, ground and trigger wire to the relay in the fairing. When the relay was energized it powered a six gang fuse block, and then you could run one of those six individual wires to your accessory (or a switch)? Would you mind posting a link to that fuse block? Thanks!!

Good Christmas morning to all, Just before I put my bike (mostly) away, It died while I was riding after bout 15 minutes. It seemed to be out of fuel, which it wasn't. I switched it to reserve, it cranked fine, but nothing. After waiting and thinking and waiting for about 3-5 minutes, it fired up and ran fine. I left it on reserve and it continued to run, so I started home again. 15 Minutes later ... same exact thing. After 5 minutes it fired right up again. This time I switched it off reserve, and it still ran fine ... I got home inside of 15 minutes or so ... there were no more issues that time. Yesterday I fired it up and was letting it get hot and idle, and after 20 minutes or so it dies again. After letting it sit for 5 minutes or so it fired right up again. I have had the Mr. Gasket pump and filter installed for two years now with no issues. It seems to be a fuel issue. It is possible that the pickup tubes are dirty, or the Mr Gasket really isn't working (I CAN hear it), or the fuel filter is clogged, and the bike runs for 15 minutes on full carb bowls and gravity ... but not enough fuel is getting by to sustain?? Thats what it seems like to me. Any comments would be helpful TIA Mike

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**** UPDATE **** Thanks for all the input, but if anything I guess I'll try a new cord. I went for a three hour ride with the "Ampere" app running and didn't see any negative rates at all... but the phone discharged by +30%. Checked background apps, ans no surprises there... just what I had running. I'll check back in when I get a new cord. Thanks