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I removed and sealed my tank maybe 10 years ago. I did it because it was clogging my carbs. Has been stored since and I am now bringing her back up. It is quite a job to remove. But if I could do it anyone can. Can't remember where I got instructions but the task was pretty straight forward. This is what I used and had very good results. https://www.kbs-coatings.com/tank-sealers.html I have done two other motorcycle tanks with it successfully. If you plan to keep the bike long term it is a good thing to do because the rust will come back.

Found this. Any additional tips would be appreciated.

'87 VR. How do you get the plunger out of the Front MC? Have taken the handle off and the phillips screw and float off. Does the rubber float mount come off? It doesn't seem to want to and I don't want to damage it if I pull it too hard.

Thanks for the reply. I think I will start a new thread on brakes.

I've got it idling fairly well after putting the airbox back on and doing a sync. Having trouble setting the idle to 1000 as the rpm's will occasionally surge faster. I can adjust the idle down then it will be too low. I adjust it up and after a bit the rpms will zoom to 2 or 3k. I was getting a lot of smoke off the hot engine from dirt and oil buildup from past overflows. I wanted to move it out from the garage to the driveway to wash it off. Found out the brake front master cylinder was empty and rear was not working either. Need the front brake since my driveway is slanted toward the street. I came in to research this brake operation. I want to pull the front master cyl off and look at the piston in it. How does the brake light switch come off. Are there any other resources I can look at on this?

Got the fuel pump on and it works great! Got an overflow on one carb. Have pulled carbs and adjusted float levels. Will put them back in and go from there tomorrow.

Ok. Thanks

Just the old style one Cowpuc.

Cowpuc, I would like to go ahead and buy your used fuel pump. Please reply back or message me. Thanks!

Thanks for the reply RDawson. Is this it? https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/mr-gasket/mr-gasket-95-gph-fuel-pump/mrg0/95p?q=Mr+Gasket+low+pressure+fuel+pump&pos=5

I am coming from the first gen list looking for a fuel pump. Got lots of great suggestions there. There does not seem to be a source for new fuel pumps for an '87 Venture Royale. Anyone here know if a Royal Star fuel pump can be rigged to use in my first gen? Thanks!

Been round and round with this thing. Just gonna go ahead and order a new pump like I was going to do in the first place.

So I decided to open the fuel pump up and test it some more. I re seated the contacts and spring and shaft and put it all back together. I hooked it up to gas tank and connected the cable. I turned the ignition to on and heard one slight thump from the fuel pump. I had the output connect to an empty pail. No output and the pump was not cycling. So I pulled it off and bench tested it with a 12v battery and it will make a thump sound which is the shaft moving. I then hooked the fuel input with tubing to a cup of water and the output to an empty cup. When I apply voltage to the connector the water draws to the pump then slowly drains back. But if I quickly apply and disconnect like it is supposed to it works great and fills the empty cup nicely. Looking at the wiring diagram there is a fuel pump control relay. Any idea where it is and how to test it and heaven forbid a place to find a replacement? Thanks!

Thanks cowpuc, I'll let you know what I find when I try all that you suggested. May be a few days til I get it done.

That didn't work. Will wait till I get a fuel pump to try anything else.

After thinking about it I decided not to pull the carbs for the float valve leak. With pressure on the fuel in the bowls it would help force the float to seal, right? What if after filling the bowls from the funnel I put some pressure on the funnel tubing about 5 psi to see if that would do what a fuel pump would? I think I'll try that.

Thanks for the replies. My fuel pump is not working as stated in a previous post. I will try again Monday to find a replacement that will work. I did not realize the float bowls needed pressure. I thought vacuum drew the fuel mixture in. I just drained front left and right rear carbs {the ones I could get tubing on} and sure enough they were almost completely empty. I tried pouring more gas into the funnel and front left and right rear are now puking gas out the top. They were not doing this before. So I need to pull the carbs again to look at the float needles. Maybe you could advise me on how to check the float adjustment. The fuel pump will be the next thing I try for sure. I did not run wires through jets, I saw light through them and used air pressure to blow through every port. Which ports are the low speed circuitry to blow carb cleaner through? Where do you put the carb cleaner straw. I have not been able to find a procedure to check float height and I don't have the tool the service manual calls for. When the carbs were apart I did check that they cut off fuel flow. I tried with the air cleaner box on and tight. All I'm trying to do now is make it idle. Do you need the air box on for that? I had found a fuel pump for a Royal Star. Could I use that with my original bracket? Or maybe a Vmax pump? Or the Orielleys pump? Even the used pump. I would like to replace all the carb parts but prices are insane! The jet block gaskets were something like $20 or so, would be around $80 and shipping was also around $20! Four small pieces of cardboard or whatever for $116 shipped? They could put them in a letter envelope and slap a postage stamp on it for a bit less than $20! I will get new plugs and check the compression. Thanks for all the replies. I now have things to try I did not think of.

87 VR. Been in storage for 10 years after problems with carbs. Tank was full of rust so I pulled it and re coated it inside. I then pulled the carb bank, cleaned it, and reinstalled. Could not make it idle then so gave up on it and stored it. Bought a goldwing and a KLR 650 which I have been riding. Decided it was time to try again on the VR. Pulled the carbs and cleaned them again, no help. Then I bought the Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner and cleaned each carb completely disassembled and blew compressed air through every port. Attached the air cleaner box and used a funnel with tubing connected to the carb bank fuel input port so it is clean gas going in. All that only made worse. It will idle for short runs so it has spark. Will start with choke but won't keep running. Opening throttle kills it. Classic pilot jet clog but I don't know how to get the carbs any cleaner. With air cleaner off I can feel strong vacuum on the carb air cleaner ports. Even tried starter fluid. Pilot screws were at 2 1/2 out. Tried 4 out. Plugs are carbon covered but dry. Can't sync since it won't idle but all closed and looked even when bench syncd. Anything else I should try? Any ideas? Thanks!

Contacts looked ok. I used a steel emery board on them but it did not help. I hooked it up to it's connector and grounded it to the chassis. I turned the key on to supply 12v. The 12v wire to the pump goes down into the body and the ground wire to the pump frame. There is a red wire coming up from the body connecting to the top of the contacts which I assume should be the 12v. With my volt meter I measured from the red wire to the bottom contacts which are on the grounded pump frame and got no voltage. What does that tell me?

Tried Caltric. They took my order, said it was shipped then sent me a refund saying it was not available.

Yea, I had seen in my searches that the contacts were the main culprit. I did take it apart as far as I could and looked at the contacts. Didn't know what to look for. They weren't stuck. So, when you turn the key to on the pump should click a few times? I had it mounted and grounded but with input and output ports open, no hoses attached. Measured 12v at the connector. So just use fine sandpaper on the contacts? If that doesn't work I would like to try different points first then your used pump. You've ridden a million miles? I will definitely subscribe to your channel. I watch youtube every day and never knew about your channel.

I am restoring an 87 Venture Royale starting with the carbs. But also the fuel pump won't cycle at all. It does have voltage to it. I am having trouble finding a replacement fuel pump to buy. Any suggestions?

I think I figured it out. I'll give details tomorrow.

One cable has two knobs on it. Which one is it? I had taken them out of what I think the manual calls the actuator. It has two wheels inside and a cable connected to the cruise control. The bottom wheel has two slots on it labeled 3 and 4 for the knobs on the cables. The top wheel has a slot for the cruise cable. The drawing in the manual doesn't help. Is there not a diagram somewhere? The manual illustration of the carbs shows number 1 which has two knobs as close side. Does close mean return? Number 2 is called open side. Does that mean primary? I just can't figure out where the two knobs connect to and where on the actuator wheel the cables connect to.

Thanks for the reply. I will look at it again tomorrow. I tried to get more slack by taking one of the cables out of the cruise control junction and need to know how that goes back together. Seems like I remember seeing a diagram for it the last time I worked on it years ago. Is that still available somewhere? Can we attach pictures here? Thanks