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87 VR, carb problem
Patch replied to Gearhead's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Jeremy I know it s trouble Bud but, look at it this way, when I started it was tear down only! The real problem for a methodical guy is cleanup! Yes it s a risk and yes it cost, now look at the other side; you alone have to place the bet then its win or loose! I've done it and lived with the results! It's always tough a penny here a penny there, we only know we won because we played our hunch! The more oil you rinse with the better your chances, and is the reason I keep pales of the good and other ****! But I never compromise on filters, true story No\ problem here if you decide to cut it short -
87 VR, carb problem
Patch replied to Gearhead's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Yes I do Jeremy and you have proven you can as seen in your post! It's not what I use but it is a proven way. Just as we mentioned start the install with the plates bench sync, this may not be spelled out in the manual however it is assumed! -
Few updates on my "new" 05 Midnight Venture
Patch replied to Tennessee's topic in Royal Star Venture Tech Talk ('99 - '13)
That is ridiculousness and I may add that you are showing thin skin. I have been here a while and nobody that has read my efforts to balance will agree with your first line! Now Your post is not in a magazine print rather a forum that shares opinion mostly objectively and with absolute certainty in a with a community spirit! Perhaps your ego has been pinched, well sir welcome to a free thinking and sharing forum! You are free to present rebuttal to any era in my reply to your OP. In the mean time piss off -
87 VR, carb problem
Patch replied to Gearhead's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Right on Jeremy! Here's a cheat I guess I should of mentioned: a guy could set the plates by using a 3 mm x100 mm drill bit (or whatever) as a feeler gauge. Working of the prime carb set it to allow the bit to just pass between the wall and the plate (never slam the plate against one) and repeat carb to carb by each idle screw. You can use the same shortcut to check which jugs require more or less airflow between the plates and the walls. Why would you want to or why could we expect to see a difference? The two most likely causes are mixture setting which could be jet related (partial blockage) or how you dialed them in when syncing or, when starting it after re installing the carb rack hunting to quickly for a tune. Next is pressure variance between the jugs. The only re adjustment you would need to do is the prime rpm set screw, as the other 3 plates will follow off the prime carb. Patch -
Few updates on my "new" 05 Midnight Venture
Patch replied to Tennessee's topic in Royal Star Venture Tech Talk ('99 - '13)
I respect the above as your opinion however, you have conflated the principles that those highlights suggest as faults or incapacitates. The above is in fact a compromise between displacement potentials, volumes, displacement percentages, velocity (torque) then HP for over the line. Carbs were never a replacement for fuel injection, today tho and for some it is the closest to raw power. Both still have flow issues, both still have throttle angle issues. Injection has active logic combined with mapping and nanny's through out the system. Carbs are brutish full of attitude just waiting to run on a rampage! You just need know how to make them crazy, and that is seat of the pants schooling not learnt thru net postings. Patch -
Bouncy carb slides
Patch replied to kansa737's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Sorry only after posting did I notice you've been a member for a couple of years! -
Bouncy carb slides
Patch replied to kansa737's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Regardless of make when you purchase an old bike you should check compression as you get to know the bike and go thru the paces of tuning or correcting issues! What you describe above could be likely due to a perforated diaphragm which is my guess from here;) Because it move back then looses position and tries again suggests that the rubber diaphragm cannot hold vacuum; as the diaphragm changes shape the perforation increases in size so it.... But seriously take the time to check compression, this helps us help you. Check coil voltage now post it, then again we have a reference. Is the air filter in good condition, this includes a foam gasket at the top. Do you see any oil pooling in the airbox, not just a coating (normal) but say some oil hanging in the corner? Check the coolant, just like you would on a car, too often the rads are overlooked and a cleaning is helpful. Use some penetrating oil on the oil filter housing the 1st time you remove it, take your time and use steady pressure, the O-ring often get seized up. Check the bolt on your side stand for wear, just in case, she a mother when she takes a nap on her side. How does you front end feel for action, look for smooth compression. Apply the front brake firm and force her to rock back and forth, any noise? Patch -
My handle bars are clogged....
Patch replied to uhfradarwill's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Certainly a clean look! Not sure what you say you cut off? Patch -
If you don't get your feet firmly planted soon then, "Dad", we are going to start posting politics! See if that don't keep your pressure up;hmm
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87 VR, carb problem
Patch replied to Gearhead's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I see that Jeremy but it soaks time and with pierced diaphragms you have a leaking low pressure right! At the moment I would hazard a guess as to how or what role that is playing? Lets say the vacuum can't leak to atmosphere due to the pick plug (lean), but one thing for sure it will find a path to least resistance should the brass stop not be in proper order (likely) which would be thru the fuel port - I guess and in this case? It will be interesting to see you pull her thru! A thank you is nice but, you know we enjoy these problems, especial when they belong to someone else;) Patch we'll be here and waiting when you have the time -
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clutch mystery
Patch replied to saddlebum's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Not a bod idea Carl! I can just imagine the 3 of us loose up in Northern Ont. between we 3 we could wright a spicy chapter for your book; say we call it The week 3 Experienced Gentlemen Rode Through - a chapter recounting the tails of a long week, from broken promises to broken hearts... Hello lol I'm game, just need to get my mineral count up, and maybe a new set of "cheap sunglasses";) -
clutch mystery
Patch replied to saddlebum's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
HOOOO is sadlebum one of them guys Carl, really?hmm What other secrets can you post about your neighbor? -
And: you mentioned you cut some of the old wiring out, did you secure the ends of those clipped wire? There are connection plugs throughout the wiring harness, in any case it would serve you well to separate each one pull only on the connection end s little shot of wd40 will help the clean with contact cleaner, I lube the plugs before putting them back together (have for many decades) with dialectic grease, doesn't take much! Is you side stand up tight and not bouncing, it shouldn't but and easy check on that and the switch beside it. Patch
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I'd add a couple of items to check, like fuel filter and fuel pump. Also you mentioned new grips and wires being pinched so, when she's running on the pad, play with those wires to see if they have an effect, if so the an easy fix. Backfiring we can cover later if it persists. How long was the bike parked for? Patch
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I suppose Freebird that we are not able to pull up members by state? Bill I assume this issue still exists? Its not like y'all talk simple Canadian! "I noodled it out on my own." I found this page: https://atlanta.craigslist.org/search/bbb?query=motorcycle+mechanic
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A 96 1300 hmm? Well maybe we can help, what seems to be the issue? Patch A quick search I found these https://www.google.com/search?q=old+motorcycle+shops+in+atlanta&npsic=0&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=33775574,-84359678,3256&tbm=lcl&ved=2ahUKEwjD4OuTrefjAhWB_lQKHVwdAsQQjGp6BAgKEEE&tbs=lrf:!2m1!1e2!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:10&rldoc=1#rlfi=hd:;si:16521791677563132816;mv:!1m2!1d33.9869262!2d-84.0843137!2m2!1d33.5527307!2d-84.65881449999999!3m12!1m3!1d211159.74980426743!2d-84.37156409999999!3d33.76982845!2m3!1f0!2f0!3f0!3m2!1i210!2i191!4f13.1
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87 VR, carb problem
Patch replied to Gearhead's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I forgot to mention, symptoms like #3 are solved by hot chem baths and a wire run thru the jets and porting's. Generally and like Puc mentioned a strand off an old cable is both stiff and thin enough to do the job without scratching. Befor you post "I know the jets are clear and you sprayed cleaner and air thru" you missed at least one maybe more. Include the port from main to pilot. Patch -
87 VR, carb problem
Patch replied to Gearhead's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Thank you Jeremy, it is obvious to us that once you had the time to you settled into the problem listen to the guys sharing of experience then moved to eliminate the list of potentials. There are times we see here on the forum how many of us at the tail end of are heavy riding days still have a drive to expand out knowledge base and put that new, into practice! There are some spoilers in here that are likely to frustrate but, that too is part of the sport. Below and as of this moment I haven't read the entire post, (had commitments yesterday) but I did read enough clues that clearly show some history and likely why we're here at this point. -
87 VR, carb problem
Patch replied to Gearhead's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Hat is off to you Jeremy for completing the troubleshooting list! I'll need some time to break it down for you, likely tomorrow morning. I should be able to paint you a pretty clear picture;) -
Its been over honed! 2 choices (yes there are other ways) replace the casting or go to a O-ring supply house and ask for the next size up and again the next size above that one. Check as well that the hone is not too course or too Tall, and that it is round.