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You mentioned a friend, so when he begins have him ask questions or you post here for him and we'll steer him (crazy)

The first thing I would check is spark when the bike is hot. Next I assume you use the choke to start when cold? If the needles or choke circuit is leaking then when hot the mixture would be too wet. How long do you let it warm up for? Or is it after driving it for a while that she gets hart to start, or is it always a no start when hot? Make sure the vent lines are clear, next time try removing the gas cap, does that improve starting? Remove tank cover, turn key to run, pumps clicks a few times then stops, lift 1 vent tube at a time and blow down it. Does the air stop moving or can you hear it bubble in the blow? You should not need choke to start when hot. Do you use choke to start when cold? Confirm spark? Confirm vents? Confirm no fuel drips from needles at low RPM (no throttle) or after the engine stops? Take 2 aspirin before responding

Good feeling Eh.. Make any changes to the needle setting?

Thought it might be nice to sit in on a jam:

Well I am sure we have one of themdarsmartguys kickin round somerwheres' ?? Lets see if we can get him dressed long enough to walk you thru it, hmm Mind U's stay away from his offering of rum balls @Flyinfool wherearthou

2 versions one with some back round.

So some years back here with the same model a member just couldn't see and understand the check list pointed to the pickups, and piece by piece he swapped out everything else first, I hung to the end but look one component can cause another to fail down the line. Stick to logic, clear each check box before changing parts, we learn and grow our confidence this way and the missing understanding's then get filled in.... Heat and resistance are buddies accepting that posing the question on how they are getting along at higher temps

There are times when the darkest moments are the closes memories we just cannot separate ourselves from:

Well you are a busy guy Phil! Thank you for giving us a peak to the better side of man. Last night was one of those nights here as well. Was thinking of giving you a call. I remember you gave me your number but, I don't remember what you did with it? So instead I shined up my sliver buckle passed the brush over my boots dusted off my blue satin vest match to my best pair of faded blue jeans and cotton shirt! About 15 minutes of backyogi poof like magic I walked out of the house like a 25 year old leaving my cane behind Well Phil, my prep paid off, not 5 minutes later with the moon reflecting off my buckle I guess, this blond hair angle asked if she could join me on my walk "yes Ms. you may" me being the gentleman I shifted my strut to the curb side and there into the night we went! True fantasy Phil but a great dream none the less and worth sharing Cheers to the company hanging with you these days A couple songs come to mind

I remember fooling with them on the 2 Ventures we ran as well. Think I found the problem on the dash circuit board? If I not mistaken Keven pointed me to a bypass on the MKll 1990? But as you say it works when out of the tank so likely she just want so fiddling. Hall sensors are the "pickup coils" a pretty straightforward test to do.

Yes according the the schematic it shows it.This should be just an on or off switch that may be off center a bit due to age or may have nothing to do with Spence's problem but worth keeping in mind, if it jumps due to being stuck high it would kill the bike because it is part of the RUN circuit, and we know since falling over..... Now if the dash and lights quit then you can assume it is likely the ignition switch

For sure a good cleaning in the ignition switch at this age is a good idea, be ready to rebuild contacts or the switch itself. The fuel problem because the bike fell over is a likely bent rod leading to the float, at least expected with frame tanks that causes a calibration issue. But take a look at the 3 clips @dingy put together, not hard to see how if you still run a stand switch this could simulate what you are experiencing! I don't recommend a permanent side stand bypass but for sake of troubleshooting I would consider it! Take note of the mid & down portion of #2 compared to riding status - see it - Diode Ass. & Neutral switch fall out of the equation! But side stand, Ingitor and Tip Over is added and in play! Of course we trust the fuse carriage, right http://file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/37977%20(1).pdf So is where I would go but I don't have to remind you Spence the hall senors can fail at high temps and work fine at low temps, so I would knock it off the check list.

The model matters as does the year and mods. Try checking the air vents.

EH Spence, For my money I'd look at the ignition switch first, then (year/model dependent) kill circuit which would include the stand switch. Next it would be grounds and power to the coils. from there I would check the connection from the Igniters the complete pigtail back to the TCI. The TCI itself does not to me, reason out at if it were the case it would flat line or at the very least be consistent as to or for how long it will run before it heats enough to open the circuit! just how how I see it from here;)

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What people must think is rolling round in my head at times? I check an email, start to chuckle!

HUH, I did not know that story myself! Remember when as kids we sang the anthem every morning before class? Then said our morning prayers? Then remember they changed the "Our Father" then the anthem. Now if you were to, which versions would you remember? For myself everything early on was learnt by ear so the first ones learnt are what I remember.

well I always enjoyed that song anyways but, I could play it if the old man was home, YIKES!!

Thank You guys! So without prompting you all mirrored my explanation. Because Puc and I remain Puc and I.... we often spar over the same things that Dad won't let us bring to the family supper table - over at Mama's cafe. Well I guess Puc won't be asking me to play the Battle of Mississippi anymore lol next

Maybe Carl th thing to do is as you like the Dodge look is transfer the body onto an old Ford pickup? You'll go farther longer

Well you all know Puc and me is in love with the same Gal.... So what we do in the kitchen remains between the 3 of us;) TOO FUNNY GUYS manohman

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BYGOLLY I am so riled up now Don I am goin to Pull a Larry Robertson on him and French Canadian Lash him to the Wishimwell lol what a crybabey! So Forking embarrassing! Are we absolutely sure he is Canadian? Maybe he's just using our flag as covour? Maybe he's a Mossad agent? Don Ya Got Me All Riled Up Man wheres my cane?

you tell em dude and while your at it

Is Dad giving eastern Canadians a discount? Am I the only one paying Canadian rates? Anybody ever mention before that you have the nose of a hound dog? Well today I went Carling thru both threads. What stood out or left the biggest impression on me is that most of the anger is Canadian related. (go figure) Now what ever happened to our "getalong" Kunckyian JOIE DE VIE? Ya know turn the other cheek, look the other way, don't fuss over anything you can avoid? HMM None the less I think I have a solution for this most ignorant Canadian Embarrassment: Lets set up a meet with that Looser elect @Marcarl to represent the clubs prospective and if @BIG TOM aint to busy he can distill Carl's speachifying in between ice cream cones and banana splits while Carl smokes the piece pipe on our behalf!! We Can't loose - not with Carl in our corner and Tom there to see he gets back in time for supper EH Tom