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Heyyyy,, look who showed up,, waddup @VanRiver Riv!! Glad to hear your still hard at it!! Keeping busy here myself as of late,, in the middle of marrying off my 2nd born daughter = TONS OF FUN!! Not as much fun as your having though I bet,, working and all that stuff,,, sucks being retired ,,, ok,, I'll stop,, love me inspite of my ways will ya brother? Gotta get some sleep here so I can get up and finish putting this Arbor together so I can pick up people at the air port so I can on and on and on till the wedding over.. Then I can go back to being me... If you and @videoarizona do hook up,, have an ice cream cone on me will ya,, just tell Vaz to pay for it and I will reimburse him,,, maybe

1st things first CP,, alllll my opinion in this matter is centered around my MK1 (83/84) experiences,, I have VERY little MK2 (86 up) experience BUT - I did play with a parts bike for a bit and, even though there are some differences in back sides = I dont believe its enough to make a difference in being able to run a car tire,, maybe though.. The tire that Bill (Jakester) and I are discussing in the video below is the closest I found to being able to squeeze onto a 1st Gen but even it would not work. There just is not enough room both frame wise and swing arm wise to accomadate a CT on one. The little splash plate is not the issue,, its the actual frame work design itself.. The contour of a 140/90x16 motorcycle tire fits it perfectly.. Could it be redesigned/altered to work,, DEFINITELY!! One of the main reasons that I never did pursue doing so though is the difficulty of "spooning" on/off a CT after all the work.. You sort of touch on my line of thinking in your comment about having to much add on stuff on the bike = I have always ran my bikes with minimal bling/add ons cause I liked the advantage of being able to pull a back tire in less then 20 minutes. This also applies to spooning on/off a tire = my line of thought was always the concern of having a flat on a roadside in 105 degree desert outback and not being able to get a tire off the wheel,,, and then,, end up a shop somewhere and have to pay the big bucks to have someone do my work for me only to find out they wouldnt touch the thing cause it was a CT on bike wheel. I just gave up on the project.. I have ran inexpensive Shinko's/Full Bore's/Kenda's and the like for years and, even though I do have to swap out tires on the road when chasing coast to coast the ease of spooning em on and off is luxurious IMHO. Here toward the end of my touring days I did get talked into trying a high end ($300 tire retail) dual compound E4 that so far is proving worthy if talking mileage. My worst mileage cheap tire was the 404 (burned off two of them in less than 8k miles on one trip BEFORE getting to the west coast!!) and all the others fell under 6k BUT remember = desert riding 2 up and packin is hard on tires. This E4 has well over 9k on it now and it still looks brand new.. Problem with the E4 is it is almost as hard to spoon on as a CT,, it DEFINITELY will take a tire machine to get off = its that solid and heavy.. We are pretty much done with touring on two wheels because of health but if we were not and we were still CTFW all over North America I would never run a tire I could not get on and off on the side of the road,, I just would not do it (I know,, I am WAYYYYY to old school for my own good). By the way,, I ran Avons for a spell,, never had that happen with em but did on Metz's.. I also have a really close friend who had the same thing happen on Metz's and almost cost some severe injury in their case (Squid and Lonna).. Thru my experience and theirs (and others) = no more Metz's for this guy = to many other tires to choose from.. I do know for a fact that in my case the tire it happened on was monitored daily for air pressures (nasty habit of mine) and wear and it just decided to come unglued out in the California heat = garbage tire period,, IMHO of course..

Oh yeahhhhh,, I'm a regular legend,,, in my own mind ..

Being a Dad is fun. One of the greatest parts of being one IMHO has been the process of putting together and/or making Christmas and Birthday gifts for my 4 children (and Tip too). I cant even begin to calculate the hours and hours of pure joy I have had in doing so. Seems so long ago,, those precious little eyes awakening on Christmas morning to find a tricycle/bicycle/Pocahanos Tent/hand made Doll Houses/bunk beds/dog pens (they each wanted/got their own Beagle pups for Christmas one year and the hounds have to have a Pen to live in)/Aquariums and yes,, even Mini-Bikes/go-carts and motorcycles,,,, where did the time go,,,,, obviously = putting stuff together:big-grin-emoticon:.. What a GREAT honor/privilage/joy to be a Dad.. Now that they are grown and longgg gone, with lives of their own,, one would think that part of life would be over,,, think again!! One of our daughters is getting married this June. She is such a lovely women and I/we could not be happier for her.. I now find myself back at the old drawing board of putting together an Arbor for her special day,, WHAT AN HONOR! The next couple weeks are going to be worm burners around here (already started),, people flyin in from all over the country (she is a spirited young lady, always the adventurer, very social and endless friends from Med School and Doctoring) and all that so I thought I best get started on this thing.. Kinda glad I did cause I have already had to make several design changes so I can dismantle this thing, place it back in its shipping box that fits nicely between the seats of our little Ioniq "motorhome" car (comes within 2 inches of touching the dash with the bottom of the box against the hatchback and still allows us sleeping quarters ) so after the party we can hand deliver it to her and her new husband at their home in Sacramento so they can have the actual Arbor they stood under at their Marriage Ceremony = soooo much fun!! Got the side walls up and running = life is great but LIVING IT IS WHERE THE REAL FUN BEGINS! Puc

I once explained to a friend about taking the front wheel off to raise the back of his scoot to work on its hiney and he somehow missed the point of securing the centerstand with a strap BEFORE proceeding with the project. As a result, the stand folded during the job and he ended up cracking a case half before the bike landed on its side.. If your following this thread and decide to use this method = PLEASE do as these two guru's suggest and get that strap on there pronto.. Good idea you two!! I can definitely see where this would be doable, even on the side of a highway where Murph had descriminately placed those tire poppin nails to bring the CTFW to a momentary hault!!

Ahhh yes,, once again my lop eared varmint tired old eyes tricked me = must be clouded over with 2 stroke smoke .. Looking forward to maybe seeing some shots and maybe even another AWESOME video starring the H1 when you get a round tuit in the build! Speaking of dreaming of the days when the wonderful sniff of 2 stroke smoke filled the air,, here are a few shots of my days past. These are a few of the scoots that escaped our inventory sell off and followed us to our new home years ago. The later model Suzy 100cc that starts the pictorial was a favorite of mine. Cool little scoots with lots of charector for sure.. Anyway,, you can probably tell by these few shots that indeed,, you are not alone in your love for big or small wing dingers.. Enjoy brother and thanks again for bringing this thread to life!

Ohhh yeahhh,,, remember em well Grubs = WOWZY WOW WOW WOW x1000 :sign Rock On::sign Rock On: :178::178::178::178:!!! GRUBSIE, you lop eared bike fanatic, 2 wheels + 2 stroke lovin varmint = WOWZY WOW WOW WOW :guitarist 2:.. That little Suzy looks AWESOME and sounds GREAT!! ???Does it have a working injection system? I only ask cause I did notice the site window on the right side appears to be full but noticed no customary little stream of smoke in the exhaust.. I could still smell the LOVELY odor of 2 stroke smoke though while watching your AWESOME video so I know its getting some lube from somewhere .. WOWZY is that PURDY brother!! Now I GOTTA go pic huntin in prep for story telling Grubs.. I smelled the smoke and feel the need,,, the need for 2 stroke speed :ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886 GRUBS and for :stirthepot::witch_brew: with an AWESOME story of that AWESOME find brother!!!!:guitarist 2: And EXCELLENT job on getting er back on her feet where she belongs = :thumbsup: Gotta go get our daily 2 mile walk in BUT = I will return cause these aint over :big-grin-emoticon: WOWZY WOW WOW WOW, that is AWESOME Grubs!

See,, thats one of the advantages to :Im not listening to:Im not listening to so much like I do,, sooner or later,, everyone will agree with something I say

I guess that Harley rider decided to take the age old thought that if ya wanna ride a Harley ya gotta "Pony Up" literally

How you do dat tire swap without removing the bags Cha? Can you get the tire out from under it by laying it on its side or something? RIGHT THERE WITH YA BROTHER ON RUNNING EM SIDE BY SIDE!!! Be really fun to chase em from Sturgis, around the Bad Lands loop and back to Sturgis neck n neck,, wind in our faces, tents flappin in the wind and HD's in our mirrors Of course, a quick roll on thru the gears to actually see if a 1st Gen really is a mite faster would be in order too but that would secondary to CTFW across the backside of the Bad Lands IMHO

Oh yeah,, and where da heck is Riv??? Hope he is on some great big amazing adventure of his own and not stranded on AZZI out of gas and low on water... Hey Riv,, send us up a smoke signal or two will ya!!!

WOWZY WOW WOW WOW ,,, AWESOME PICS OF MORE AWESOME VAZ ADVENTURES = BEAUTIFUL!! and a GEEEELEEEE MONSTER to boot ,, I have GOT to get back out there ,, them exotic critters just seem to be booming for ya Vaz,, maybe some of your good fortune in locating snakes, lizards and road runners will rub off on me if I we do!! :sign05::sign05::sign05: THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

Dear Carl: :rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry: and being a Heinz 57 like I am,, there is a good chance that I do have a touch of Dutch blood mixed in there somewhere

I wonder if you having against the muffler was/is causing a grounding issue so the reg couldn't shunt like it is suppose to? The mufflers are rubber mounted and sealed at the headers with gasketing so they may not produce the best ground IMHO. It doesnt seem that the muffs would get hot enough to cause internal issues of the reg if thats what your thinking = IMHO of course. I would not fear using it as long as it checks out on its readings = do a quick voltage check across the battery with a volt meter to see if its acting normal (reg drops off at idle and jumps to 14.5ish volts when you tap the throttle). ANother thought would be = how much "extra" amp draw are pulling from the new high output stator Cha? That being that extra draw on the stator/electrical system will normally put out xtra heat from the regulator,, that is why higher output electronic devices may have more cooling fins as a heat sink. It's possible that you are just experiencing something normal..

,,, ,,, interviewing those folks about the life and times of my friend and brother @etcswjoe would make a GREAT "Puc Investigates and Reports" video blog to post back here for alllll our lop eared VR varmints to enjoy

WOWZY WOW WOW WOW:178:,, I know pics can be deceiving and there is nothing like getting to see it IRL BUT brother THAT looks great! I think if I were in your shoes I would request a good clear closeup of the starter button on the right grip. If the scoot is actually a 128000 mile piece the lettering on the starter button will show wear (unless someone went to the extreme of replacing it but that would be highly unlikely IMHO) but yeah,, that looks great.

OUTSTANDING BROTHER!!!:thumbsup::dancefool::clap2: Thinking about this a little more Bongo,,, maybe you should tell those folks that they took so long on the build that you and all your buddies got to old to spin wrenches anymore and see if they will install it for you free of charge :Laugh:

Yep,, look er over good before you seal the deal 40. I see what your talking about concerning the differences in photos.. I would xtra suspicious and double check things like rotor wear and tear = 28k miles they should look in top shape. I know you have been around this stuff for a good while too and are aware of the constant need to add and subtract bling and thing that a LOT of bikers like to do. Its not bad or wrong, its just part of our world.. Consider that when your looking at it and dont forget,, if it is obvious this falls into that group,,, to ask for any extras laying around that they go with the deal = never hurts to inquire!! If its as nice/clean as it looks,, I think a 600 dollar shooter + an 83 with a never accomplished 2nd gear issue repair for a clean later model would be a good deal.. Best wishes as you pursue this puppy! Hope it all works out!

Which,, if you dont mind a drippy, dirty, oil covered engine, can actually work in your favor cause you never have to change oil,,, you just keep adding it to keep the bottom end full and by the time its oil change time you have already swapped in new oil... I use to tell Tweeks that she had the best of care cause she was under Puc's Perverbial Progressive Oil Change - a REAL advantage if ya dont mind parking on cardboard or cleaning up oil spots on the pavement everywhere ya go

Hmm how did we get to the crank? = the top end and the bottom end.. It's probably due to the unlearned circles of gearheads I spent a lifetime running with Patch, since being a young gearhead I/we always referred to the crankcase and all it entails as "The Bottom End" and the components in an internal combustion engine above the crankcase as "The Top End". It sounds like you are referring to The Bottom End of a carb? My untrained ears have never heard carb components described in that fashion before if that is what your saying = hmmmm... Or, maybe you are referring to the closed position of the butterfly in the carb, the part that would be close off the carbs venturi when the carb is in idling status? Due to the butterfly being on a rotational axis I have always heard that described as open, opening, closed or closing as there is no top or bottom in the butterfly's relationship to the venturi area of the carb body that it operates in. As a general rule of thumb in the gearhead world that I resided in, when referring to "choke" or "choking" I/we were costumarily referring to actually restricting airflow at the venturi opening - NOT the area below the main jet emulsion tube . On many carbs that I have dealt with, there would be another butterfly located near the entrance of the carbs venturi that was also on a rotational axis. Unlike the lower butterfly below the venturi that controlled air flow across the emulsion tube to develop air/fuel mixing, this butterfly in a fully closed position would choke off (or restrict air flow above the emulsion tube) the intake and vacuum in the carb venturi would pull raw, unmixed air/fuel, fuel from the carbs bowls thru its circuitry to give the engine necessary over fuel for cold starting. I know this probably sounds crazy but I learned early on that leaving that butterfly closed to long could and often would leave the engine in a "flooded state" from over choking and opening the air box and holding the lower butterfly wide open while cranking the engine over to start it was often the only way I could get one of those over choked, over fueled engines to start. It made no difference whether the engine was with a fresh bore/piston/rings with freshly ground valve and up to maximum compression ratio's = if not operated correctly, the carb's "choke" could and often would perform as described above. Tired, worn engines with compromised compression always seemed to display a different component in my world back in the days when I was spinning wrenches. The absence of compression (and vacuum) often showed up by almost complete loss of fueling (unless there was some form of an enrichner such as an accellerator pump) due to no air movement thru the venturi. As matter of fact, there were actually times when the loss of compression was due to an intake valve that I could actually hear/feel the air movement going backwards thru the carb = a "popping" sound. An exhaust valve having lost integrity would also "pop" but because of its location it was harder to hear. Either way though (piston rings or valve or head gasket), for me in my untrained status, compression loss created a completely different set of apparent issues than those of a faulty fuel system.. Hey Patch,, speaking about schooling me here, did you by any chance teach automotive professionally in years past? If so, did you ever have opinionated knot heads like me in one of your class rooms?

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Actually,, truth be known,, all my V-4's - if running close to properly, would/will throttle up just fine with the air box wide open,, have done it many many times. They do tend to high idle because of running leaner without the restriction (choking) of a closed air box = YES but they all throttled up just fine. Matter of fact, I have found that running them with no air box and while I throttle em up is a great way to check the consistency of the slide action and also a good way to see if the diaphram repairs I did are still holding = ripped diaphrams will show up in slow slide action easily viewable with the air box off.. Ahh ohhh,, :duck::duck::duck: flying frying pans are getting numerous

Ok,, back to schooling me here teacher Patch,, lets see, help me out here a little and bear with my students unknowing but wanting to learn brain. Is it your understanding that internal bottom end (crank case = bottom end, is this correct?) below the piston variances in vacuum and pressure changes developed by piston movement are directly effecting the vacuum operation of the CV Carb/intake system located in the top end (area of operation above the piston, including the intake/combustion/exhaust systems?)? Am I on the right track here in keeping up with your class?

Might wanna keep an eye on the often overlooked "Motorcycle Parts" section on your areas Craigslist and also in their "for free" section..

WAYYYYY COOL!! Ya might pop a lid on a carb and check a diaphram to see if looks new just to verify if he dont have receipts but indeed = THAT is awesome!! As far as the Progressives go, same deal, pull a spring a see = if not, drop in a set,, their cheap and as you know,, easy peasy to swap out = personally, I wouldnt wait on that one,, if she's riding on Ink Pen OEM's = fork rebuilds with new seals are in the future IMHO.. Still not to see pics 40.. Would LOVE to see it! By the way,, what's the value on the shooter your swappin?