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Pegasus,, Back in the late 80's while touring on my first 1st Gen (kids named her BG, loving called Beeg - short for Big Girl) I would carry the Sleeping bags rolled up and then placed in their own waterproof bags, the tent in its little bag, a sleeping mat in its own water proof bag and strap the stuff on top of both the trunk and on top of the saddle bags.. My daughter and I caught some HUGE winds while out in Glacier Montana that almost cost us our lives - it hit that hard - that fast.. I had way to much side area and top area that created major wind resistance.. I know it looks goofy but what you see in those pics are what I came up with many years ago, has served us very well, have ridin thru MANY Utah/Colorado Mountain thunder storms (you aint seen winds till you been in those mountain storms) and WE LOVE WYOMING - wind capital of the country too(gonna see if I can find one of my favorite pics that I snapped of Tippy while fighting Wyoming winds).. The bike is amazingly stable set up like it is,, notice the rolled up tent on the back is within the "streamlining of the bike"... Head on and angle winds are NO problem, Cross winds effect it very little, not much more than riding the bike with two people on it with nothing more than stock bags.. This may also sound crazy but I know for a fact that the "Fixed Fairing" on these old 1st Genners are a big part of the stability of my set up.. I have actually tried doing something simular with a bat wing and the extended rear mounting like I have does NOT work well - mainly cause fighting cross winds out west becomes extremely arm/shoulder fatiguing as the added length seems to have a leverage effect on the wind against the fairing... Continue reading more below,,, if I aint got cha bored to death yet:rotf: Bob, read above than continue here.. I too completely destroyed the under side of the rear trunk on Beeg by top loading my Trunk.. I had NO idea that the pretty little chrome carrier on top of the trunk on that Royale was just for looks,,,,, I thought it was a touring bike.... Anyway,, as mentioned above, carrying even a couple sleeping bags up there created so much wind induced movement bike it drove me crazy,, or crazyerr.. I made and have used thru 5 1st Gens now, a carrier that sits behind the rear trunk.. The carrier I made has two long arms that I attached to the lower frame arms behind the saddlebags - I used 2x2 aluminum angle for this arms.. I dug around in a bunch of bike rear racks I had, found one that had been on 71 Honda 750 I had chopped that really looked great (application wise).. I attached the rack under the trunk onto the trunk mount and on its end to the 2x2.. I have carried my "tent roll" like this now for about 700k miles of touring (5 bikes) and it works great,, looks goofy but fits my persona :rotf:.. The bed roll tucks nicely in behind the trunk and, if I aint in to much of hurry gettin up and going (getting chased out of Cemetary at 2 am with skeeters biting your face while the cops are telling ya to hurry up) it sets pretty well in the air flow across the trunk and bags.. When I fold the tent in half and roll it up, I tuck the bottom of the tent along the edges into itself.. I roll so the door of the tent is inside the bundle.. I also fold the floor edges inward,, I end up creating a very waterproof area by using the bottom of the tent on the outside of the package - unless you have been camping in Goat Head country out in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico.. I than use two bungees around the outside diameter of the bed roll and one long one around the length of the tent - very tightely so I can tuck protruding edges under it. I lay the tent on the rack with the seam facing rearward and attach it with regular motorcycle tie downs to the rack.. Next I take a "tour net" (came with Beeg) and drape it over the left side of bed roll (one gallon water jug hangs on the other side on a different little post I made for it).. I tuck wet towels, wash clothes, clothes in there to dry.. An interesting side note.. That tent floor and tent walls make the package amazingly waterproof,, I literally get more water inside the tent from condensation when sleeping it than I have ever gotten from it being on the back of the bike.. THAT,, that right there,, THAT THERE IS A FACT,,,, the magic of great motorcycling adventures begin with being lost!!

Hmmmm,,, sound is an amazing thing,, it can make you feel like your bike is faster when, in reality,, you have actually lost power.. Not that I doubt you actually have gained more power,, just saying that about the only way to really know if/how much gain/loss you have is by comparitive Dyno charts.. On the same token,,, there aint nothing nowhere nohow that sounds as good as one of these V-4's with a decent set of pipes on her!!

Got that right Bill,, only Buddy,, start out with gently singing "Always On My Mind" with Willie to your bike.. You will win her heart back.. Then she will be singing "On The Road Again" with you while your riding as one!!! That He is BKW,, THAT He is,,, what a mighty God we serve!!

Got the Scabbard,, also got a "fake" Hollywood prop Tommy Gun for it.. Hmmmmmm,,, Got an old 06 deer rifle layin around here somewhere Raggy,,, wonder if the DNR would mind if I got those tracers from ya, mounted my deer rifle on the handlebars and went rabbit hunting at night around here...:rotf::rotf:

Thanks for the compliment Coffey,,,,, heyyy,, wait a minute here,,, I think he just unsalted me,,, who you calling old?? Want some sage advice from one crazy old man? Pay attention here Coffey cause I'm talkin to ya.. After ya cross the 55 year old point it is AMAZING what cha can get away with.. Its like the percieved threat to society that ya once were just kind of disappears,, its a LOT of fun...:bighug:One of my daughters bought me a copy of "Second Hand Lion" for Fathers Day one year (if you havent seen it, you should), gives it to me with a card that says "story of my Dads life" - Thanks Dad for teaching me to live life fully and to just be me... Look forward to meeting you too Coffey!!!

Prayers Up, Blessings Down,, nite neverland

Stick THANK YOU for the compliments!! Right on on the respect,, was watching a guy on you tube do a burn out on a bike very simular to mine,, made me wanna puke... Not that I dont do my share of wheelies, burn outs (got a real nice 115 footer from one of my 1st Gens) , busting brush, trail riding,, laughin when I fall over and on and on BUT not on this... This IS totally different with a totally different soul.... Internets been very good to me, I shop Craigs A LOT - use Adhuntr,, use Ebay some (still mad at em for kicking me off for selling BB Guns (cost me a year of sales during high dollar days with Ebay - freezing my Paypal account - now they allow BB Guns Sales - wont sell with em but have bought a few bikes out from under em.. Do a LOT of person to person,, hear about something and dont wait to check it out.. The ones that get me are the ones that get away,, just missed a Venture Trike we were gonna due up for a friend, also just missed a 72 Benelli Tornado for a grand, a pair of A2 Kawi's for a grand (6500 dollars of bikes there) and on and on.. Just gotta "stick" with it Stick.. Other than that,, I am a VERY VERY blessed man who loves what he does...

THAT should be a mandatory read for all!!! Buddy,, your friend "Chris" is one awesome friend!! CONGRATS, on getting a second chance and on learning from past mistakes!! Tell Chris thanks for all of us!! Oh yea,, GORGEOUS BIKE!!:cool10:

Heres an interesting thing that happened at that spot where I was laying on our tent in the picture above Barry.. We pulled into that spot - Severville (near Dolly World - Pigeon Forge) - rode from Michigan and spent the whole day touring the Red River Gorge (WOW) area on our way to hook up with you guys last year.. It was 2 or so in the morning when we pulled into town and found that little spot beside a gas station.. Dropped the tent on the concrete behind that building, flossed and brushed and crawled in the bag.. Last thing I remember saying to Tippy was I hope the cops dont kick us out or haul us in for vacrancy,, chuckled and fell asleep.. Next morning we walked over to the gas station,, used the potties, got the coffee and a donut, after paying I thanked the cashier for not calling the law on us.. He laughed and said they (the Police) had checked on us several times while we were sleeping to make sure we were safe.. He than said that a month or two before that a school bus load of kids heading for Dolly World had camped in that same spot :rotf: Talk about southern hospitality!!! I did Manhatten when my daughter was in Med School (Cornell) over on the east side.. I always said I wanted to go back, leave the bike and take a moped and Moped Manhatten dressed like a bag lady :rotf::rotf: She always yelled at me and said, DAD - you gotta knock off talking to people like ya do back home,, around here the only people that wanna talk to you are crazy,, dont even make eye contact.... I always LOVED NYC but your right,, things can go bad really fast in that jungle.. Here is another really interesting point that a lot of folks probably dont know.. I was camped on the prairie out in South Dakota. Got into a conversation with a cop out there the next morning (this was many years ago) about the "legalness" in doing so.. He told me in South Dakota that you can camp anywhere, side of the road, in the ditch, out on the prairie,, as long as its not fenced and its been mowed.. Apparently South Dakota recognizes their "state land" as land owned by the people of America not the "state" - use to be that way all over.... Man I love the west.... Utah, Montana, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico,, Wyoming,,,,,,, my heart throbs to go back at it...... Ride on brother!! Puc

So,, I wanna find a small speaker I can plug into an MP-3 player.. Than I am gonna put the Marines, Air Force, Army and Navy Anthems and other patriotic songs on the MP-3 player,, put the whole thing in one of the saddle bags on this old Military Bike and let it play while I am out and about on it.. Any one know of a decent sounding battery powered speaker system that would do such a thing.. Gotta have its own battery source, the bike is 6 volts. I also know of a patriotic song that I have LOVED for years that I am going to go looking for,, it goes something like this: Proudly she waves old Glory, over the land of the free,,, symbol of far greater meaning, than it first may appear, red is for patriots blood, blue is for honor,,,,, If you know the title of this song I would love to hear from you... Thanks,, you guys are an AWESOME think tank!! Puc

:rotf: Well put Barry!! THAT is what touring is all about for me,, its a flaw in my charector that has plaqued me for years,, when I am out on my bike I AM "homeless" in the sense that the road becomes my home... Last couple times Tippy has gone with me she actually CRIED when it was time to go "home",, she loves living on the road too.. It usually takes about three days of hard riding (isnt that funny,, I still remember my dad talking about horseback riding and needing 3 days to get "saddlebroke") for me to get to the point that I can sleep really really good just about anywhere.. After a week or so I even HATE stopping for gas,,, just LOVE watching the world go by.. WEIRD EAY...:confused24:

:rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf: Really humorous thing here Dan is there are a few folks out there that think your joking...

Thanks Annie!! I do and will!! And you KNOW that when I am riding this bike it touches my heart thinking of the stories it could tell.. I ride it with total respect and admiration of all those who have served, are serving and will do so in the future.. I had a Vietnam Vet stop me today at a gas station while I was on it. He told me he was a Vet too, I immediately told him that I had not served, that I was simply a VERY patriotic motorcycle guy who was blessed with honoring all our Service guys by riding (instead of seeing it go to a collector) this old war machine, than I thank him for his service to our country.. Have also already been asked about a local story in a news paper.. I told them that I would love to BUT only if they focus on the bikes history, previous owners WW2 military service and didnt mention my name.. I also told them that I would only go there with permission from the previous owners (deceased) family.. Actually these are issued bags Dan and I really dont wanna change anything on it.. It does have a little ammo can on the front for those Tommy Gun cartriges.. I agree though,, it would look bad to the bone with a couple ammo cans for the back.. Hey,, I had to do a brake job on my daughters car today.. Box of rear brake shoes for a 94 Civic fits perfectly in that front ammo box:cool10: Gonna get a ride a video up pretty soon,, just gotta get this foot clutch learning curve a little under my belt:backinmyday:

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me too Stardog, me too :rotf: His statement really explains a lot,,, first time I met Dan I said "are you YammerDan".. He stares off into the crowd and starts pointing at other people,, now that I think about it, he pointed 4 times,, as if to say "no I am over there' "nooo,, over there".. Kinda like you would expect from someone looking for 4 fragments :rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf:

Not to put words in Bongo's mouth here Hugger but your suppose to always include the word "why" anytime you write something in this thread or your responses are nothing more than a figment of your imagination.. Therefore,, why is Ground Hugger imagining a mark on his screen

I heard FlyinFool was haulin in Wisconsin White Wash in his saddlebags now,, doent know if he has an 03 RSV but if it was him and ya see him again chase him down and take his motorbike away from him will ya.. :cool10::stirthepot:

I have a you tube video that Tippy took of me on "Tweeks" (our bike) out on the Bonneville Salt Flats at 124 mph loaded up just like that,, rides great... I know it looks funny (get a lot of people pointing), unstable and wheelie prone (I love riding wheelies anyway but Tippy aint to fond of em) but its really very stable the way I have it set up.. What you see on the back is a little two man tent (I get em from Menards), a piece of 1 inch "egg carton" hospital foam on its floor, two sleeping bags zipped together laid on top of the foam, couple small pillows, 1 fresh change of dry clothing - fold the tent in half and roll it up.. It looks big and heavy but its surprizingly light, probably 25 pounds max.. Been riding cross country for many years and I have found,, for me,, this works AWESOME.. We spend alll day in the saddle,, chase the sun from up to down, pull into a Walmart parking lot at 2 a.m. beat tired from a 1000 mile plus day, stop the bike, unsnap the tent and unfold it and literally be on that Walmart lawn inside of a sleeping bag within 5 minutes of stopping the bike sleeping right next to the bike (cant set up a tent on their lawn - but in cases that we do set up the tent its no more than another 5 minutes even in the dark).. When I ride alone I take that same tent package, leave my trunk at home and strap the tent on the riders seat to lean against,, that also works great..... Probably all sounds crazy but welcome to "Cowpuc Logic".... Now that maintenance department (saddlebag on the right),, that sucker there tips the scales at over 60 pounds,,, wheelieing aint the problem bro,, fighting going in circles on loose sand is WAY more my concern :rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf:

I highly doubt their gonna boot cha bro,, after all,, how would it look for a Harley rider to boot a faithful Venture rider off a Yamaha Venture site... I mean,, after all,, its not like you wrecked the Harley riders bike or nuttin :rotf::rotf: Brother I can SOOOOOO relate,, when I was racing MX someone was always putting haybales in my way, Hare Scamblin someone was always putting trees in my way,, bar hoppin on my 73 650 Yam Chop - just like you,, those girlys who couldnt afford to fully clothe themselves were always putting garbage cans/car doors and guard rails in front of me, reason the kids named me "Cowpuc" was cause cows were always putting pucky in the way when they rode cross country with me (gotta give them mooo cows a break though - we did a lot of traveling on their "trails").. Fortunately I have never broken my head bone like you (tap myself on the head to "knock on wood") so I still have pertneeer all the marbles I was bored wit.. :rotf: My "Warden" has givin me the thumbs up on hangin onto that little 42 War Bike.. I have about 12 hours of ride time on it now, am getting the hang of it (you would love it Dan, its like starting all over again as a kid with your first minibike).. I love riding it at night (carharts, balacalva and snowmobile gloves),, if people cant see what I am riding they cant bug me....

You'll be just fine as long FlyingFool doesnt happen to notice this thread and send his Wisconsin Winter White Wash your way...

I agree,, unless you dont mind people pointing and laughing a lot:rotf: On the same token though,, if your going off roading on your Venture a trailer can really work against you.. Pretty depends on what you are looking for in your ride experience..

Why do feel a scam coming on,, a Mod gone wild,, bribe me on the "Killing The Thread Championship" or my itching finger is gonna start closing other threads like this one,,,, :stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf: Mods Gone Wild,,,,, hmmmmmmmm,, sounds like a good title for a new book hmmmmmm

I am telling you guys,, THE ONLY WAY ANY OF US ARE GONNA WIN THIS CONTEST IS BY BRIBING A MOD... Everything else is a waste of time...... Beyond doing that,, this thread is gonna out last the "WHY" thread.. Mark my words!!!!!!

Been out playin on the 42 and thinking of ya bro.. The balancing act of using a foot clutch sure leans stronging toward those slow speed stalls like you experienced.. Little story hear to make you smile again... Number of years ago I built a 69 Honda Chop, raked out an old Santee Soft Ride f (took about 1 1/4 inches out of the back bone and hung a 18 over Cali Springer on it.. GORGEOUS BUILD and a TON of fun to ride (I actually rode it to sturgis 3 times).. I got really really comfortable on it, could ride it on the back wheel,, heck I even trail rode believe it or not.. We have a "Blessing Of The Bikes" here in Baldwin Mi.. LOTS of bikes and TONS of none bikers sitting on the side of the road for 2 miles out of town.. I come pulling in on the Chop, showin off standing up on the Floor Boards riding like a trials bike.. Got right in front of a group of little kids with their parents,, waving at me to beat the bands,, doing about 1/10th mile an our - barely at a crawl.. About 1200 bikes behind and another 1200 in front of me, came to stop,, next thing I know I am laying on the ground with the bike on top of me.. I didnt realize that my stinkin pant leg had gone over the kick start lever so I couldnt put my foot down.. Heal fast my friend and soon,,, very soon we ride!! Puc`

Think I am in love.. Spent a couple hours out playin on the old girl today.. Certainly a learning curve to Tank Shift/Foot Clutch/Left hand spark advance BUT what a riot of a learning curve...