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I see a LOT of potential for just pulling the air cooled V-twin and stuffing in the 1700cc V-4 Big Block without a whole lot of overall design change,,, probably wouldn't have to even skip a year of production!!! Make those gorgeous fake Fighter Jet scoops fully functional,,, top 1/3 for intakes to feed the Big Block and the lower sections for radiator inputs.. Maybe drop in some stiffer front boingers so when some lop eared young at heart VR member varmint comes down off a 3rd gear wheelie it dont bottom out the suspention and leave fork fluid on the road for all the other touring bikes following it to slip on.. :checkeredflag::checkeredflag:

:rotf: ,, I wonder if the Big Block 1700cc V-Max motor tuned down to 175 horse and stuffed into a touring bike configuration could be made to comply with Euro regs ... You know, something that no other manufacturer could even come close to competing with ..

You are welcome my friend,, YOU DID IT = YOU EARNED IT brother!!! I can not WAIT to follow along on your adVentures as you uncover the real reason that many of us still consider that particular model of touring bike the perfect long distance touring machine!!! Looking forward to vicariously riding with you and enjoying the ongoing the ongoing saga of Maddy and his gorgeous Blonde steed!!! Puc

:thumbsup: Good catch brother and thanks for the reminder!! In the spirit of bike chit chat and in the love of such,,,, I now can't help but wonder if the SVTC was/is built for the U.S. market,,, does that extend to the Canadian market too or is Canada gonna follow the Euro specs/regulation starting in January?? Reports from those above the northern border were reporting sell-out status of the SVTC right from the get go, seems like Mom Yam would find a way around the Euro regs instead of losing that market if Canada is following Euro specs:think:..

She's a DANDY Radar!!!

Better one?

Looks like Polaris is putting their new "108" in a fixed fairing bagger to start with (unless my eyes are deceiving me,, geezer eyes can do that ya know )... Be wayyyyyyy cool if my favorite bike tester/reporter of all time,, my dear brother @VentureFar ,, could get his hands on one when they are released and do one of his Ultimate reports for us!!!!

You two lop eared varmints had the same thoughts as I,,, makes one wonder if Mom Yam's fall back to the old school flat tappet, push rodded, air cooled SVTC was a short term plan right from the onset,,,, or is the new Venture built compliant to the new standards/with the new standards in mind and found a way to overcome the ills that air cooled bikes may have with maintaining compliance... It will really be interesting to see how it all plays out,,,, same for HD.. Definitely a GOOD read Leo!! It does show that Polaris is in it for the long haul IMHO,, Polaris must be doing OK with their Indian line sales wise!!! Those dyno numbers on this new "108" sound worthy, cant wait to see how they run! I know that the 1200cc HD V-Rod (not the smaller 1000cc 1st one) my buddy had ran pretty good and could almost keep up with my 85 V-Max thru the gears. Maybe HD will fall back on the water cooled V-Rod motor and adapted it into a touring scoot... Really interesting,, THANKS LEO FOR POSTING THIS!

GOOD WRITE UP BROTHER!! How many miles ya got er now Dave? Fuel economy? Sounds like you folks are having a riot on the new one = GOOD ON YA!! Puc

,,, WOWZY WOW WOW WOW,, wayyyy cool!!!! It may not be a Yammer but ya just could not step back from a V-4 could ya Sticky Congrats on the new addition brother!!

Not to get us off riding The Whine Testing Trail but something just occurred to me that might be prudent.. IMHO, it is not uncommon for rusty fuel tanks to end up being the cause for sticky/stuck float valves. Rust can be so tiny that even the best fuel filter can't capture it but easily get caught up in that little valve. Another thing I think I would do if that purdy scoot were mine @Roadflyer is to drain the tank, leave it open for a day or so so it can dry out and then inspect it internally to check for rust.. If you do this you may want to pay special attention to the roof of the tank.. In the end, even if you find it clean as a whistle,,, you will be starting out knowing you are not running the risk of contaminating your carbs with rust and you will get any garbage out of the bottom of the tank that frequents those places... May be worth a check!!

:scared::scared::clap2::clap2::thumbsup: ABSOLUTELY WOWZY WOW WOW WOW @made2care!!! CONGRATS on a job VERY well done my friend!!! THAT is just awesome!!!!!! Puc

Nailed me cold with that one brother,, spot on... Matter of fact,,, honing a bevel on a straight cut was considered part of a good tune up back than .... My ohhh my how times have changed... Sort of akin to smearing a lite coat of "Seal All" on those cases to close off some of the pores in the castings to keep the oil from seeping thru ... Speaking of beveling on metrics though,, when the 750 Virago's first came out, they had known issues with the starter gears = even some of new ones sounded like they had rocks in the primary starter engagement system.. Due to the early years of beveling and some trial and error,, I found that adding relief in the same way REALLY helped in quieting em down... To Bevel Or Not To Bevel = this is the question

Years ago,, when I was just a young Puc and my own "Harvest Moon" started peaking thru my regressing hair line, it was common for the gang sitting around the campfire during Deer Season with the camp fire reflecting off my Harvest Moon to start singing that song. It was a fine display of love and teasing between lop eared buddy varmints that I miss (haven't hunted for years) and I could not help myself by partaking in that same spirit one more time - even though that darling wife of mine warned me not too .. It was just another example of my character flaw getting away from me brother .. And yes,, that hat is DEFINITELY something to be jealous of,,, a TRUE 1 of a kind "moon" cover !!! You got a keeper there brother!! I know for a fact that I am not alone my coveting spirit,,, just look at the number count of respondents to the Contest in competition to win that awesome prize:banana:(ya did a GRAND thing there Bossman!!). It is now my deepest hope and most sincere desire that Freebird continues the "game" on an annual basis to allow jealous lop eared varmints such as my self one more chance to compete once again for a Harvest Moon cover of my own !! CONGRATS MY BROTHER!!!!

That is exactly what I would do too Flyer only before I stuck the original club hub into the motor you are running, I would take a dremel tool or die grinder and just add a little relief on the tooth of each gear tooth (not the face of the teeth that drives the gears, just the ends where they start the mesh with the mating gear) and see if that didnt run a lot quieter just for kicks.. Or,, maybe trying the original engines hub first to see if it's already quieter and then do the alterations on the one that is noisier... Tweek Tweek Tweek until ya get er where ya want her.. Tweekin's fun:thumbsup: I would also do the bead blasting for stress relief that @WildBill1 mentions!! IMHO, that is good point of interest.. Bottom line,, I still have a sneaking hunch that a lot of the noise has to do with the straight cut drive/driven gears associated with the clutch system. IMHO, straight cuts are stronger then helical but they do tend to be noisier..

@Condor is spot on.. It's repetitive to Jacks info but was fun to do non-the-less... In the youtube text I wrote: ""A good friend of mine is doing the front brake upgrade on his 2013 Yamaha Royal Star Venture (RSV) by putting R1 calipers on it. This is a common upgrade for improved braking on the Venture. The question came up by my buddie, BikerJohn, concerning the measurement of the distance between mount bolts on the R1. I don't have access to a later model Venture (mine have all been MK1, 83/84 models which I know will not swap with the R1) to compare to but I do have a 2001 R1. Hope this helps solve the measurement question John and maybe someone else looking for this info too brother!!"" and the video just for you @bikerjohn:

:rotfl:,,, no Tip,, my laughter outburst had nothing to do with you,, just two buddies having fun,,,, SHEESH Corporal Newkirk,,, ya ALMOST got me in trouble over that one :rotf:

NICE Jack,, real nice!! I am gonna grab the Verniers in the A.M. and take some measurements on Maggie, my 01 R1, while recording the measuring and post it up here too... Maybe help John and others wanting to do this switch.. I know one thing for absolute sure,,, the stock OEM calipers on Maggie will put her into a two finger precision back wheel off the ground "stoppie" at any speed so those multi pot R1 calipers REALLY stop!! Probably wont do the same for the heavier RSV but DEFINITELY a far more functionally adequate system to those OEM's found on the MK1 1st Gens I have ridden thru the years!!!! Have no fear John,, between all your lop eared VR varmints friends,,, we'll find the answer!!!

,, TOTALLY AWESOME AND DOUBLE :dancefool::clap2: HERE YA LOP EARED SNOW TOSSIN VARMINT!! It brings a HUGE on my face hearing you are able to get back the most AWESOME project known in VR varmint land = headed to the wild blue yonder!!! I thank God you are getting back on your feet my brother!! I too know how you feel,, while not quite as exciting as your surface to air missile (if your a spy looking for bad guys building naughty things - I say "surface to air missile" in tonge in cheek mode = my buddy is building an RC Air Plane NOT a real surface to air missile = by the way,,, he doesn't REALLY have a machine that control's the weather either - thought I better make that known too )... I have yet to even site in and/or even felt good enough to really putting my AR builds thru their paces.. There they set with only my Son In Law and my Grandson having fired em when they came from California for my daughters wedding.. Haven't even got sites permenatly mounted - what a SHAME.. I have a pigeon tosser I built up to mount on the back of our pickup truck to take Tippy out and see if she can bust a tossed clay bird = that sweet lady waits patiently for my health to recoup and for my kids to stop having babies (got two more Grand Kids due in January :pushups: - that traveling and sleeping in the back of our car as Tip drives us to and from the little ones also takes priority over shootin fun.. Always something aint it Reading this update of yours is a REAL blessing Jeff!!! I still have HIGH hopes of finding the path to your region to witness LAUNCH DAY,,, I would LOVE to be there if at all possible!!!!!! THAT would be one truly eventful way for two lop eared wild eyed brother varmints to enjoy life together again!!! GOOOOOOOO FOOL GOOOOO:dancefool::dancefool::dancefool:

Like I just wrote in my PM to you brother,, I REALLY have no clue BUT,, if you would like, I can make a quick video of measuring my 01 R1 calipers and post it up for you if you would like.. Be more than happy to do so my Texas Hero!!! You DID get a new scoot? 's are a minimal requirement around here,,, it's The Code ya know

BEAUTIFUL SCOOT FLYER,,, JUST GORGEOUS!!! While neither here nor there and strickly from a knowing nothing of what you saw in relating to the prior engines failure,,,, sounds to me more like a leaky/sticky float valve allowed fuel into that jug and, slowly over time, the fuel washed the cylinder of its lube and left behind enough fuel in the combustion chamber to hydrolock it.. I only say that cause,, and this is JUST an opinion,, the combustability of coolant is low and I highly suspect that the damage you describe would,, more opinion here, be the result of combustion (not enough umphhh from a starter to do that).. Concerning the "whine"... Again,, another opinion here,,, I have yet to meet a V-4 of our type that didnt have some form of it,,, V-Maxes to RSV's,, its as common and as well known as the mighty V-4's perfect performance levels.. Here is a short video of Tip (my wife) and I doing some whine testing on @videoarizona's RSV... Sound familiar? Is yours worse or better? Being a person who always enjoyed tweeking and having long since being suspicious that the whine of our 83's was being produced by the straight cut drive gears pushing the clutch,,, I have always wondered if grinding a small edge of relief on the tips of the gear faces may cut some noise down.. A test/trial that I never got around to as I actually enjoy listening to the sounds of a healthy V-4 singing it's song (always reminded me of a gear driven super charger spooling up LOL).. If you are of the tweekin type and find the whine annoying,,, and still have a "parts motor" left over?,,, perhaps pulling the clutch on the old one and knocking the edge of the gear tips (not all,,, just a slight 45 ground at an angle on each meeting edge) would quiet it some... Then swapping in the altered clutch and mating gears to see the results... Who knows,, you may solve a life long issue and become a multi million air in the process Any of that make sense? Probably not At any rate,, CONGRATS on the scoot!! SHE'S A DANDY!!

I may be one of those lop eared loser varmints of whom you speak BUT please add me to the list of those same varmints who are very thankful "The Cap" went to someone who can use it .. Here is song dedicated to you and your fortune my brother!! P.S. - Willie is GORGEOUS P.S.S. - CONGRATS on the job well done in winning "The Cap" Venturesome!!! P.P.S.S. - Tippy just scolded me for being mean to you.. She says "play nice and take that down!!" = I tried but I cant find my delete button LOL

WOWZY WOW WOW WOW,,, that is an AWESOME way to honor those that died!! I vividly remember that horrible day when the news broke about the unfortunate souls who happen to be caught in the path of that tragity.. THANK YOU for attending and for sharing the story with us Grubsie. Hopefully the Monument will do it's job in serving as a reminder to all of us, far and wide, to remember how deadly the highway's can be and how quickly not paying attention while driving can be. My very soul reaches out to the family and friends of those that gave it all in their final moments,, INDEED,, Prayers Up.. RIP Fallen 7

Pleasure meeting you too brother,, that Meet n Greet/MD stuff is a blast = putting faces with names = GOOD STUFF!!! Nooo,, never did ride The Hat, now that you mention it and I jumped on to Maps to get a peek = DEFINITELY will do and appreciate the inspiration!! We have done a fair amount of Moab (both on and off road)/Canyon Lands NP and Capital Reefs NP thru the years but just never Ventured down to Mexican Hat to play.. Matter of fact, to this point (THANK YOU TNT FOR THIS) had never even heard of it BUT have now!! Another one mentioned to us by a fellow tourer that we bumped into at Mesa Verde NP (WOW) is a place called "Telluride?" up above Silverton CO.. Sounded like quite a joint so maybe on our next adVenture, Tip/Trooper and I will chase em both down!! Soooooo many GREAT CTFW(s) opportunities - enough to last a life time

I'm not taking this laying down,,, RECOUNT RECOUNT RECOUNT :crackup::crackup::crackup::witch_brew::rotfl: What an AWESOME contest Bossman = YOU are DA MAN!! Soooo much fun hearing from everyone.. PLEASE do it again soon ya lop eared Boss of bosses varmint!! :ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886 VENTURESOME!!!!! :You_Rock_Emoticon: