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AND,, now that the sweet, soft spoken, lovable and gentle Tippy has a whip hangin at her side things have changed Bongo... Used to be the conversation went like this "Honeyee,, I thought we had an agreement that 100 mph was our top cruisen speed",,, now its "Honey,, thank you for being so considerate of my needs to stay under 100".... THANKS A LOT VENTUREFAR OL BUDDY,, THANKS A WHOLE LOT!!

And yet ANOTHER winner,, ding ding ding,, bling bling bling!!! and,,, speaking of classy go gettin folk with one gorgeous ex-bike,, how bout this guy..

No idea but the #4 guy in the lower left corner surrrre looks like he is having a blast!!!!!!

AND,, go get some ice cream in between,, and before,, what the heck,, an after those lunches are consumed.. May as well do it right if your gonna do it!! "EAT TO RIDE, RIDE TO EAT":cool10:

ROCK ON BROTHER!!! and this coming from a man who owns BOTH a 1st Gen (well,,, more than one actually) and a finely tuned, professionally maintained full fledged 2nd Gen... I guess the real answer of which one is faster is finally, indefinitly, unquestionably, scientifically and professionally answered... Thanks Dan for finally solving the question of the century both here on VR and even more so, upon the highways which we both love!! Puc

But,, arent you forgetting that this is one of the reasons that the system is designed to be adjustable,, or, sycronized.. Its not a perfect system in itself so by adjusting those little balance screws we are probably compensating for issues like you are pointing out Pete.. This is also why after tuning I like to run my bike up to normal running R's (careful doing this if your still using Mercury Sticks) - around 3800, just to see what my gauges look like in that range.. I usually tweek Tweeks in that range cause I hang out that alot.. If nothing else, differences in balance at those R's can be affected by a lot of things, spring weaknesses included, and I like to at least know whats happening even if I dont totally understand it.. Good thread!!!

Give it a shot Dan, YOU WILL LOVE IT!! Clean em real good with a little carb cleaner, apply Yamabond 5 to cover side of the diaphram, small smear goes a long ways - stuff is really really amazing to play with!! If only a few pinholes a light smear - let sit for 24 hours, a little larger smear over the first one, dry for another twenty four hours before use.. YOU CANNOT TELL THE PATCH FROM THE ORIGINAL RUBBER IN FLEXIBILTY OR TEXTURE!! I am dieing to try an actual patch over a complete tear out, cut a patch from an old diaphram, seal between the two pieces of rubber with #5,, I dont expect it to work perfect but far better than a dead jug on a cross country trip.. It must have been a good a epifany cause I carried some #5 and an old diaphram all over America and never had a chance to prove my theory.. You and I both know that if you conquer ol Murphy and his law you are probably onto something!!! Hows THAT for engineering thought you guys.. :rotf::rotf:

I knew Honda was making a big mistake when they starting using cheese instead of rubber to insulate their wiring.. I tried to tell em,, I tried to tell em but oh nooo,, that had to have it their way... Seriously Kieth,, sorry to hear about those damages!! Puc

You might not be off base in your thoughts Pete.. One of us should pick up a set of pin hole infested diaphrams, stick em in our bike and make a video of how they compare to good ones, on a set of vac gauges at a variety of R's and in performance.. I still think that the area inside the diaphram housing is forming its OWN vacuum, or, as mentioned earlier, is being formed by Venturi action,, either way, if this were true ambient pressures would have little affect on the diaphram vacuums and that any vacuum loss across the face of the diaphram is gonna cause issues of some sort.. It may not be as critical as an actual tear or separation but it seems like it wouldnt help in making an effecient running engine.. If it did nothing but cause an imbalance in syncronization,,, well,, we all know what a poorly sycronized 4 carbed Yam motor runs like,, icky..

Ahh ohhh,,,, I have gangster signatures on my bike,,,,,,,,, comparing the looks on their faces,, Annies = ohhh yea,,, this will work just fine to Alans = cool.. One doesnt have to think to hard to KNOW who the REAL gangster is :rotf::rotf::stirthepot::stirthepot:

:backinmyday: An old saying I heard once is befitting here,,,,, A WORD TO THE WISE IS SUFFICIENT

Oh,, by the way Pete,, after trying many many things to get more life out of my Venture Diaphrams thru the years I finally discovered a product that works FANTASTIC for resurfacing that rubber.. Yamabond #5 seems to be doing the trick.. Its pretty neat stuff to work with, totally a different critter!! I have one diaphram on Tweeks right now that I patched up with the stuff and its still going strong after 40k of usage.. Dont know why it works or whats in it BUT it does seem to work well... I honestly think that a tube of Yamabond #5 and an old diaphram to be used for patching material in case of an actual on the road tear wouldnt be a bad addition to anyones maintenance department on their bike, if you ever have a diaphram self destruct during a trip you will be GLAD you have this - had a buddy that had it happen and it cost him 4 days of riding while waiting for a shop to get his parts.. The Yamabond can also be used for MANY other purposes as it is rubber,, after it dries,,, I think...

You pose a very good question there Pete.. While not being an engineer of any sorts and probably not the best person to even voice an opinion on the subject I will,, just cause I dont mind being wrong and I LOVE to in these discussions and learn:cool10: I theorize that the hole in the slide works in unison with the vacuum being pulled on the rear of the diaphrams and serves as a venting device to allow them to move, maybe the area where the diaphrams are located form there own vacuum area in response to the intake vacuum environment they are sitting in and they have to have this venting action in order to operate.. Any holes, pinholes included, in the surface of the rubber diaphrams will interupt this delecate balance and cause issues.. It seems like it woudnt take much of a hole for vacuum to be lost and the diaphrams to, at least lose quick response to vacuum change... There,, I contributed,, I hope someone much more intelligent than I responds to this one

I was gonna guess that Annie but you and Alan aint gangsta's, you two are a fun lovin couple of Aussies that we all miss... Or,, maybe I didnt spend enough time with the two of you to REALLY know ya's and another rolling wonder,,, wonder who it is rolling down the road on their GORGEOUS ol 1st Genny...

Oh yea Annie,, ol Tweeks has put that signature of yours thru Delle n back,,, a couple times now.... Miss ya sis!

Ooops,, its actually another example of me overlooking maintenance and my good friends having my back and tenderly, loving and kindly reminding me to get er done.. Cant blame this one on my fingers,,, they only get me INTO trouble,, not out of...

Ooopps,, another example of me not pulling maintenance like I am suppose to.. Sorry Bob,, give er another shot when we ya getta chance compadre',,

Prayers Up, Blessings Down,, nite neverland!

Count on it Bongo, count on it!! THE DAY IS COMING SOON!!

that is flat purdy!! Nice fool, really really nice!

Oh come on Puc......that's a staged pic and you know it. A seasoned biker like you and Tip would sleep on the soft grass in the background in front of the motel for some real shut eye. -Pete, in Tacoma WA USA:rotf::rotf::rotf: Heyyyyyy,, wait a minute,, you were there,,, kinda like the producer of a good movie given up those hidden little secrets Pete.. Bad form bad bad form:rotf::rotf: Besides,, seasoned OLDER bikers like me and Tip would have walked up to one of those doors with bikers sleeping behind em, beat on em until we woke someone up and said move over, we're tired and walked right over that lawn!!! But that wouldnt have made near a good a picture for the end of perfectly true story and you know it Pete..

By the way Larry,, the title of your thread here sounds like the title of a good book!!

Lots of times I have picked up old bikes that have mice nests in the airboxes.. Not sure about actual rats but mice nests - lots of em.. For some reason, and no idea why, those little buggers love air boxes and sometimes exhaust pipes,, no idea what the draw (pun intended) is.. The worst thing as a result that I have experienced is ruined carbs from their urine, those varmints go potty all the time.. I can see though that if the bike was ran and some of the nest was drawn into the intake further problems could and would result.. I make it a point to always check airboxes on bikes I get in for restore 1st thing and have avoided major problems a couple times by doing so.. This applies to all power equipment.. Sounds to me like you caught it in time and a new filter is all ya need to be back in business.. A whole that small sealed off good should be fine till your new filter comes in.. That and getting all that nasty stuff out of there.. You also might wanna double check the wiring in the area for chew marks,, them buggers like chewing wires too!! I have been told that storing with fabric softner sheets stuffed in pipes and air intakes will keep em away.. Might be worth googling.. Now that they have been in there it wouldnt surprise me that other rodents will come in cause of the smell they leave.. Hope this helps, glad ya checked it! Puc

HEAR HEAR!!! THANK YOU DOUG!!! I am soooo glad you pointed that out! Let the countdown begin family!! Puc

And who,, by cracky,, is that on the bike behind the car??