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Well shore nuff,, check this out!! Looking at this one cause of the different angles of the pics, I suddenly dawned on me that the 85 trunk is kinda shaped liked the 83/84 but it looks a lot deeper? Anyway,, I betcha THIS is what you 's are talking about.. Nice bike,, I could where this one year model would be highly sought after!! 1985 Yamaha Venture Royale

Yea Starfan,, come on brother,, its spelled diaper,,, thats the thing some folks use to make things they dont want other people to see disappear...

And just think Bren,, we are only operating at about 1/100th of level of freedom we could be operating at.. Technically we should be able to take a switch to our kids when they do wrong, let em say the pledge of allegiance in school, run truck tires on our bikes, ride across the desert with no helmet on and a .50 caliber machine gun mounted on the front while singing the National Anthem at the top of our lungs just daring those bad news terrorist thugs to cross the line into our country BUT,,, we try to hold some back so our neighbors to the North dont think we are totally crazy

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Happy Birthday ColesGrandPappy!! Wherever you are,, I hope you made it the BEST OF THE BEST!!!!!!:group cheers:

Thanks guys!! Oh yea!! He even said I get to drive his WW2 Ambulance and Jeep!!!!! CAN NOT WAIT!!!

Ohhhh,, I get it now,, your just trying to a little.. As the Wizard Of Oz said,, WELL BUST MY BRITCHES,, WHY DIDNT CHA SAY SO... \ So, to answer your original question,, indeed,, the ORIGINAL 1200cc Venture motors were far superior in every way!! Fasterrr,, smootherrr and even better sounding!!!!

Speaking about being confused,, someone like YammerDan would be the one to address that question to CJ cause I think he has actually spent some time on both.. Just thinking out loud here,, if we have a hard time finding that feller I am sure there are many others around this joint with just as much experience with both motors.. Well would ya look at that!! I dont think I have ever seen one Don!! Is that the same trunk as on the 86 - 93 and does it have the same seat/trunk backrest as the 83/84 I wonder...

Seeeeee,, THAT is the reason why I didnt include the 85's in my thesis!! I am not so sure that maybe some 85's looked like 84's and some looked like 86's... What da heck I say,, what da heck...

Tahhhhhhhhh Dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! 1985 Yamaha venture No idea where or what a Yakima is BUT,, this thing is gorgeous! CJ,, did I ever tell you that I love bikes and love being involved with procuring, riding, talking about, working on,, heck - even having them talk to me.. Sorry about your mishap but thanks for taking us along on the journey of watching you find your next bike!! hope I dont poison the water hole and get us both in trouble for stickin the Craigs ad on here, shhhhhhhh Hey,, look at that Don,, I got all that funny writing in front of the smilie I was trying to get..

Took a while but I just remembered the guy on VR who rides that gorgeous Voyager,, it was JRichard.. As I recall, he is from Virginia.. That Raggie,, he sure likes to show off his vivid memory collector thingy:missingtooth: Hey,, JRichard,, sorry I couldnt pull it brother - sucks having a leak in the beaner!!

WOW what a morning.. My new friend Ben, got up very early this morning at his home near Vermilion Ohio and drove to our home here in Muskegon to begin his caretaking of Olivia.. Just like most of you, my family here on VR, my love for motorcycling and being involved in that deep passion, has led me into meeting some of this planets most incredible people. It happened again today! Ben has an extreme passion for WW2 history and is involved in re-enactments of WW2 battlefields. He has some amazing equipment but had a vacant spot in his need for a 1942 WLA Harley.. Enter Olivia.. She has gone to a VERY good home!! Ben does screen printing as a profession (GORGEOUS WORK MY FRIEND)!! He special made these shirts for me (they go really really good with my Dispatch Shirt from Tooch) and presented them when he came today (1-31-15) to take Olivia to her new home! Ben,, Cheryl and I wish you NOTHING but the best in all your endeavors!! It was an honor meeting you and doing business with you!! Olivia,, you are loved and missed. Treat Ben and your other family members with the same goodness you treated us with.. Stand tall as you rub shoulders with the men and women who sacrificed so much in keeping us free, its to them, AND ALL THOSE WHO SERVED OR ARE SERVING - PAST - PRESENT and FUTURE, that we all owe the greatest thank you to!! Don, Ben is very excited about the possibility of hooking up with the group during Maintenance Day, even if nothing more than to say hi at the restaurant (that oil change place you mentioned that you go to?). He also asked if, because you two are neighbors and you have a deep love for biking, I could hook him up with you so he could pick your brain a little about potential motorcycle mechanics in the area (he is looking for someone down there to upkeep Olivia if needed - for pay of course).. He is very good friends with the guy who owns the Harley Shop down there (you may have purchased your new bike from Ben's buddy..), matter of fact - he used the dealerships truck and trailer to come get Olivia LOL, but the HD shop doesnt do relics.. Do you have any problem with me sharing a phone number, e-mail or something for him to touch base with you on?

This place is plagued with lop eared varmint troublemakers I tell ya!!

AWESOME Silv!!!! My hat is off to your Dad !! Do you mind that I put that quote in my signature area? THAT IS AWESOME!!

SilvrT,, Tip and I are sitting here staring at your piece of work,, speechless... I dont know what to say.. Tip just said,, all she can say is WOW... Talk about talent my friend,, you got your share! WOW.. THANK YOU for your work.. THAT IS AWESOME!! We really appreciate what your doing Silvr!! I can say this right from the bottom of my heart,, YOU inspire me to keep writing and,, more importantly,,, it inspires both of us to look beyond all this medical stuff and KEEP RIDING!! Just flat out cool!! THANK YOU SilvrT!! Puc, Tippy and of course, Tweeks

Oh, by the way,, I really like the way you think!! Good thing we aint neighbors or our neighborhood would have grease and grime covering the trees and bushes.. Kinda like that Cat in the Hat did when he came to town

Hmmm,, this probably sounds insane but,, I wonder if a timer relay for a dome light in a car would work for what your talking about Randy?? Depending on the amp load of the anti dives, you might wanna wire up the timer to a higher amp relay between the timer and the anti dives.. Most of the switches (thats all the timer is) in our bikes work thru a relay like I am talking about anyway cause the little contacts, in lets say, a headlight switch,, cant handle the amp load and would burn up if they didnt have a relay that handled the amp load.. Any way,, I have NO idea how much a dome light timer would cost new BUT - I know our local junk yard charges a buck a piece for relays and switches (sometimes will give em to you if your nice like me,, and catch em on a good day:301:

anddd,, everyone knows that whoever has the most spare parts wins!!!!!!!!!

I am not really sure what happened during the 85 model year,, I am SURE one of these guy who actually owns or has owned one can attest.. The reason that I didnt include the 85 was that I thought it was the year that they went to the bigger bags and trunk - the MK2 1st Gen look so to speak? I might have made a mistake in just putting 83/84 in my response CJ.. One of the really really great things I have come to enjoy and appreciate about the MK1's are the smaller bags and the smaller trunk.. I know that MANY people prefer the added space but,, I personally have always enjoyed the more "sport touring" look of the smaller bags.. I also REALLY like the ease of getting a back tire off and on with the smaller bagged MK1.. Yes, you do have to smack the right bag pretty good sometimes to get it to slide off once you unlock it (not that bad once you get the hang of it) but - its a whole lot better than having to unbolt stuff.. A HUGE issue that I might add here has to do with the seat, rider backrest, seating position.. Having ridden many many miles on the 83/84's, it always intrigued me at how comfortable these bikes are.. For some reason,, the seat always had a special feel to it.. I have owned lots of bikes thru the years, including early Wings (several up to an 86 Interstate), Kaw Voyager 2's (gotta remember to mention those - AWESOME BIKES).. I have found NOTHING that saddles like the 83/84.. I have an 87 parts bike that may very well become a Tweeks.. I will gladly let you know if it has that same seat feel as the 83/84 for long distance touring BUT,, Tippy and I have toyed around a little with it and found it to not quite be the same.. I did find out after many miles and many years of owning the 83/84's that the seats, bars and seating positions on them were created by an Orthopedic Dr. or something,, when I found that out I shook my head and told Tippy - THAT makes sense!! Ok, the Kawasaki Voyager 2,, this is NOT the early 1300 6 cylinder fuel injected - Kaw had LOTS of problems with that.. This is the 4 cylinder Voyager 2 - think it was made from 86 till like 03.. WOW!! NICE BIKE!! I redid one (long story but awesome deal!!) a number of years ago.. When I finally got it back on its feet, Tip and I spent a few days on it.. Had the same numbers (HP/TRQ) as our 1st Gens but totally different in its delivery.. I was AMAZED at the MPG this thing got - we actually saw 62 MPG running 55 on the back roads! Guy I got it from (neighbor) said he always got better than 50 with it!! Overall, a truely remarkable bike all the way around!! I also had a few more of them that I had taken in.. The first one was a 37k bike, highest mileage one I had was 120k - still ran and rode like new.. Couple of things,, I know from experience,, a huge issue for me was how low and scrunched I was on the bike.. I am spoiled with being able to stretch out on my 1st Gens - the Voy didnt offer that for me.. If I were shorter, I would ride one!! I had a silver,, 01 I think it was,, that the previous owner had suffered the same issue - he was about my height (6' 1").. He had gone to the trouble of extending the drivers footrests down by about an inch and a half.. This took a LOT of work on his part.. He found out that the Voy does not have the ground clearance needed to accept this mod and still be fairly good in the corners (I scrapped em right away just playing on our road during pre trade test drive.. Just (IMHO) something you should look at if you find yourself thinking of this gorgeous bike.. Oh yea,, one of the guys at Raggies Meet n Greet last has one - who the heck was that,, talk with him a LOT about it too,, oh well - if your interested in one you could ask on VR and I am sure we could find him and he would be more than willing to tell ya all he knows!! Seems like, as with most first year models of anything,, the 86 Voy had an issue with the TCI - ignition module.. Like Kawi didnt have the timing curve set up just right for start up and they had a problem with them snapping starter motor chains.. They did provide an upgraded module that solved that.. I also ran across a Voy 2 on the road a number of years ago with rear gear problems (bike had a lot of miles on it) - dont think this is an over all issue though.. I got my first one from my neighbor.. He had snagged the oil filter cover on his trailer way back in 89, ripped the guts right out of the internals, let it set for over 20 years!! I got it CHEAP, tore it apart, bought a new bracket that the oil pump mounts on (sets between the tranny and the forward gear) BRAND NEW from Kawi - all parts still available and CHEAP - 65 bucks for the bracket.. Rebuilt the carbs, prelubed the top end and did it RUN!! My neighbor, who is 5' 6", had JUST bought a new Harley Ultra Limited 2 days before I fired the Voy up for its first ride in over 20 years.. He came over, took the Voy out for a ride, came back with the sickest look on his face.. He said , I could have had a bike that actually feels like it was made for me and saved myself 25 thousand dollars I keep typing here thinking I can pull the guys name who had that Voyager 2 at Raggies,, dog gone it,, oh well,, I guess I better post this and let Raggie, Bongo, Buckshot, ,Billmac, Habfan, Carbon One or one of those other guys who were there show off the better memories... Ratsssssssssssss

That there is GORGEOUS country!! Have fun out there Midnight!!

Nope,, cant say I recognize the bike or stickers.. Pretty cool you guys bumped into each other though KIC!! Looking forward to having him jump in the pond here and say howdy!! A man cant never have enough friends!!

Prayers Up from Tip and I Kat!! Hope all goes well young lady!! We will be thoughtfully watching for updates as you progress thru it all!! Puc

I always look at it this way Silv,, we cant hijack if the OP ASKS us a question ,, of course, people like you and all these other troublemakers who subscribe to that theory tend to get into trouble alot:scared:, but we wont go there cause that may get you guys into trouble for hijacking:big-grin-emoticon: Its a shame to have to say this cause I really like the looks of the Beemers but, what Eckster is saying is vital info!! I might add, I have ridden with and helped a couple times with on-road Beemer issues and I also gotta say,, repair costs are up there even when ya can find a dealer. And most of the problems you run into on one of their modern bikes are usually not roadside repairable.. LOTS of Harley shops that work on Harley's only - if you ride an HD YOU are covered better than any brand - flippin Harley shops EVERYWHERE!! The metrics are kinda cool cause if you have a problem - most metric shops will help you out even if its not their sell brand,, Honda/Kawasaki/Yam and Suzy.. Getting to be a few more Polaris/Vic shops it seems like,, I am SHOCKED at how few of Indian Dealerships their are - from the beginning, I thought ALL Vic shops would instantly become at least able to help out with an Indian rider in need - NOT SO - they CAN NOT even order parts!!! I therefore would not be surprised that it goes the other way too if your looking for Vic parts.. Anyway,, really good point Eck!!

Speaking about vibrations on these V-4's. One of the things that I have always appreciated on my 1st Gens has been that when I do notice buzziness, even my mirrors, it always seems to turn out to be either my tires or carbs out of sync.. I have, on several occasions thru the years, dealt with both of these and was always amazed at how smooth these big V-4's are when everything is right.. I will admit though,, probable the two absolutely smoothest bikes I have ever owned and operated has to have been, 1st the Honda 350 Four.. Had a few of them and THEY are AMAZING for smoothness.. Second place would have to go to a Honda CBX 1050cc that I redid a few years ago.. It had an inline 6 in it - that thing was also almost supernatural in its smoothness.. Might have a pic or two here to show off with,, nothing like pics right? Having ridden Harley's for years too, including the new Twin Cam,, I LOVE the bikes BUT - they do have their slight drawbacks in viberations (rubber mounting of the non-counter balanced "A" engine, modular tranny and highly improved frames have helped a LOT when talking vibs) but I would say an even hotter subject to discuss would be the hotter temps ya gotta work with concerning them.. Gotta say though,, I have seen LOTS of really really great deals on Twin Cam Harleys these days - some in the 5k range!! Something I have ALWAYS liked about HD is the available factory and aftermarket parts.. A got can torment that pretty simplistic V-twin tractor motor to no end!! Plus,, according to the masses (and me too) there is NOTHING that sounds, looks or has the appeal of a Big Twin HD! Concerning Victory's, if we were talking a few thousand more $$'s here CJ, I would STRONGLY advise you to go test ride a Vision 8 Ball if they still make em.. I rode one for a day and gotta say,, I aint NEVER ridden a bike that handled the road like that thing.. I nicknamed it the "Weeble" cause it was so inspiring, it felt like a rider could not force it to fall over even if you wanted it to.. After riding the one I did for the day, I pulled into the dealership with it, the dealer met me outside and asked what I thought, I started telling him about naming it the Weeble, he says - oh yea,, step off it - I did WITHOUT putting the kickstand down,, crazy thing leaned over on some pads on the lower fairing and sat right there!! Pretty cool!! I did notice on all the Vics I have ridden that they seemed to have notchy and noisy tranny's.. Have also heard of lots of electrical probs on the Visions of past.. Speaking of the that Great big George Jetson looking Vision thingy,, CJ - if you end up with one of those things and nobody will ride with you, you can come ride with me cause I LOVE em - weird eay!! Speaking of the 1800 Wing, Having never owned, ridden or even really rode any distance with any one on one I cant say much about em.. I do know that the first model year or two they had frame issues and the dealerships were welding them inhouse - seen this with my own two eyes.. I wouldnt touch an early 1800 Wing just for that cause - unless it was a 2000 dollar or under bike (which probably aint gonna happen).. Beyond that,, all I have heard from people who have owned/operated or even test rode one has been DO NOT DO IT UNLESS YOU ARE WANTING TO OWN ONE,, they are that nice!! There are lots of VERY reliable, down to earth people on here that have them that I am sure - can corrupt,, I mean steer you into Goldwingism.. Bongo already mentioned the Valk - cool bike!! Dont forget the mighty Strat - or even the chopped Strat known as the Raider!! I LOVE the Raider and have seen some UNREAL prices on both Strats - Roadliners and Raiders!! FJ's, Concours and that line - I have always DREAMED of flying across the desert at a comfortable +140 on any of them.. I also would LOVE to own a new V-Max and create a mini bagger out of it and tour on it!! My problem is, with any of the above,, I am smart enough to KNOW that it wouldnt take me long to get used to running high speeds all the time and,, I am not sure my pocket book can afford the additional costs of the tickets I would accumulate.. Enter the most iconic, pretty fast bike even by todays standards, awesome sport touring, most highly overlooked, most durable, very effective canyon carving, not to bad a lookin (there are better looking bikes in my book) and extremely comfortable for both passenger and driver,, the 83/84 Yamaha Venture! Yep,, if it were me and I was gonna have just one bike and had 5k to spend,, I would spend my time searching the internet and I would find as close to a brand new left over 83/84 !st Genner.. Wouldnt matter where it was, if it was like new and RAN like it looked,, extremely low miles, 2nd gear was replaced on recall (if not, just deduct for having the repair done),, I would own it.. Beyond that,, all you need are stickers!!! Puc

I just noticed that Midnight is having problems similar to some I was having yesterday.. Our Boss who is a LIFE saver, asked me try cleaning my cache,, did it and it helped.. I also increased the amount of space allocated to the cache.. I passed this info on to Randy who, even though I FORGOT to tell him to click on the "Network" tab, was able to successfully do the same.. Here is a copy of the email I sent him (notice I fixed the part about clicking on the "network" tab Randy - sorry about that buddy).. If you are running Firefox and having problems like some of us are - try this and it might help.. Might not be a bad idea to do it anyway.. Hope this helps someone out there!! Hi Rand Think I read that you were having some issues with the puter again.. ust went thru some of the same stuff, thought I would pass this on... Upper right hand corner of the Firefox page again (just like last fix).. Click on the icon with the 3 bars again. This time, instead of clicking on the "?" at the bottom of the window when it opens, click on "Options" (looks like a nobby tire symbal).. In the window that pops open next, click on the "Network" tab, next window on the top bar to the far right should be "advanced" - click on "advanced" (symbal looks like second gear out of 1st Gen). Middle of that page you will see 2 "clear" icons - click on those buttons than click on "ok" at the bottom of the page.. Try it now, that may fix it.. I also increased the size of the cache on mine while I was in there.. You will find the selection for doing so to the left of the "clear" icons.. I would be happy to walk you thru it if needed..