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Gotta ask, if you go to 6:30 in the first Vid (the one your speaking of Gary) you will seeing folks camping - is this area a National forest where pull off camping is allowed? All AWESOME rides = BEEEAAUUTIFUL!!!:clap2::dancefool:

Depending on the stuff you use Dan,, I have been able to store the stuff for long periods of time just by adding a little acetone to it to keep it fluid.. Know what ya mean by being frustrated about it bro, nothing like having the stuff on a shelf until ya need it, then right in the middle of a job ya discover ya gotta put all the tools down and run into town for a 5 dollar can of adhesive..

Right there with Freebird! Start with battery connections.. If cleaning the battery connectors fails to solve it check back here - these guys are GREAT teachers!!

Sounds like a fun project Vern, definitely something this ol back yard mechanic would be interested in reading about (was a time not long ago that I would have been right in the middle of it with ya:big-grin-emoticon:).. In the end though, I really think an attempt at using a secondary to try to eliminate the need for jetting out of a lean condition is actually going to result in having the opposite effect.. Remember in the mid 80's when Honda came out with the twin carb single cylinder XR's? The system didnt last very long because of mysterious mid-range hesitation issues associated with that set-up. Sometimes the hesitation (bog at the wrong time is never pretty in the woods) was a blubber from to much fuel - Honda built in a reed valve to help with this, worked ok but even that was just not quite good enough.. Other times, mainly due to not having jetting spot on - a crack of the throttle was momentary lean creating more hesitation.. In the end, you will probably end up with wayyyyyyy more work in a redesign than 4 or 5 carb tear downs and rejets.. If your main concern is trying to overcome a lean condition and I were in your shoes, I would probably start with the basics - stock air box with stock lid so you have control of air flow. Check for airleaks on vacuum hoses, intake manifolds and even the sync plugs. CHeck the diaphrams for holes. If everything is airtight and still seems a little lean - before I would do a rejet I would shim the metering rods (these carbs dont have "E" clips like "normal" bike carbs,,, gotta be careful when I say that - someone just told me that the Canadian Ventures actually came with "E" clip adjustable metering rods ).. Anyway, pull the slides, pull the metering rods and fatten er up on the mid range - thats what I would do before I got into rejetting.. PS,, DONT FORGET TO KEEP US POSTED WITH PICS AND EVERYTHING IF YOU DECIDE TO CHASE THAT V-MAXING IDEA

Your more than welcome Rhy, best wishes in getting your scoot up to snuff..

Wondered if we could get this thread moved to the read only tech section after we are done playing in this sand box? LOTS of good info here!! Thanks Vern for posting this up!!

Right there with ya brother - right there with ya!! Will say this though, not much has changed that way in most of the western states (minus California of course), States like Utah, Montana, the Dakota's, Arizona, New Mexico are still pretty much like you and I remember as open minded to our kinda moteling under canvas freedom seeking biking lifestyle.. I have also done a fair amount of it (still do) down in your neck of the woods (few years ago I spent a month searching for old coal mines in Pennsylvania - West Virginia,, came home with a real old pick axe strapped to the side of the scoot and an AWESOME old coal miners helmet thingy that I modded and wore out in Sturgis on my chopper - will try to post a pick of it when I get a second ) - certainly not the same as back in our time BUT still lots of possiblities.. Bottom line my dear friend,, I think we are a rapidly disappearing breed What about those Motel Coupon books at the welcome centers when ya come into most states - anyone ever find them useful for saving

Heyyy,, wait a second here,, is your scoot still covered under warranty? If so I would handle it just like a new car,, have problems - give it to the dealer and tell em you would really like it back fixed. If that isn't the case, continueing with this discussion,,, IMHO - even if its been a while since getting wet it is still possible to actually buy contaminated fuel.. I personally try not to buy fuel when the gas haulers are filling up the underground tanks.. All under the "theory" that them putting fuel in is stirring up trouble down below.. Might not be a bad idea to check things out like mentioned above, if all checks out - ride it till what you are describing happens again.. When it does, if the Gen 2's have a fuel petcock,, turn OFF the fuel as soon as the symptons appear. Now open the drains and see how much fuel is in them. If they are low level or empty you know you are on the right track with it being fuel flow.. Then close the drains, turn the key on and off to run the pump - listen carefully to the pump - it should eventually stop clicking as the bowls fill (you should actually hear it slow down till it stops completely). Now with NO choke - hit the starter and she should restart just fine. Keep in mind thru all of this that a bad fuel pump doesnt just mean the points are bad - there is more to the pump than just points..

This will be interesting Raggy,, around here in these parts the junk yards wont sell whole vehicles - including bikes (have bumped into this several times during the years). Parts yes, whole bike no.. Have always wondered if it was a "legal" thing or just greedy junk yards.. Last one I had that happen with was over a Suzuki Stinger like the one in the link below. It was back when I was doing restore's for resale. Bike was GORGEOUS, engine was free and was only missing a couple of pieces.. I offered em 900 bucks for it, no sale.. Offered to parts but wanted 200 bucks just for the pipes https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=suzuki+stinger&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001 I would say I would start by figuring weight x per pound scrape price current value = x, then x times 1.5 (they gotta make something) would be a good place to start if your gonna make an offer.. Cant imagine paying much over a couple hundred bucks for a non running, pig in the poke - IMHO Now if it were 39 Indian Chief

Never owned a 2nd Gen but if I had that new of one and was having problems like your describing I think I would start by draining the bowls into a glass jar and looking for water, check the tank vent for blockage and making sure that my fuel lines were not being pinched somehow.. If that didnt produce, move on to double checking the shops findings with the pump and then to the pump relay.. This didnt begin happening after washing the bike or riding in rain did it?

What da heck,, am I the only one who read the article,, the last line explains in perfectly understandable english what a Kg is = "439kg is about 70 stone – as much as Britain’s former fattest man at his peak." actually I thought "Kilo" had something to do with drug running or something.. After reading the definition I am not sure I was so far off:think:

@suds, I have spent a little time onboard the 1st Gens in perpetual tour mode and have swapped out a number of tires in the process.. Because of the minimal miles we have gotten out of our tires (due to 2 up, loaded up, HOT TARMAC of the western states) I have often thought about Dark Siding it.. Had a neighbor with a Valk that was Dark Sided.. Spent a fair amount of time on it - not bad after playing with air pressures.. He hated it - I liked it.. Spent a fair amount time pawing around for a Dark Side for my 1st Gens (have owned and wore out 5).. Found what I think may work to my satisfaction (click on link).. Problem is I have become so adept at swapping tires on my 1st Gens (can have rear tire off rim in less than 30 minutes) and usually able to find pretty good prices online for regular scoot tires that I just havent been able to spend the 150 bucks to "test" my hunch that the Dunlop below would do me for over 20k miles.. Would LOVE to though!! Anyway,, here is what I would try if I had the xtra cash to play with - https://www.universaltire.com/dunlop-tires/dunlop-radial-tires/175r16-austone-taxi-black.html

Dag nab it bro - ya beat me to it!! Actually did once, got a room, it was nasty, put up the tent on the lawn - we camped (wife and kids) on the lawn of the motel Another occasion, when the kids were little we took a weeks vacation over at Six Flags over Illinois,, in a place called Gurney (or something like that).. Anyway, we stayed at this really awesome joint called "The Hitching Post" - pool side room, ping pong tables, pool tables (you know - with que balls and all that), sauna room and on and on.. Had a BLAST playing there when we were not at the park riding the Bat Man!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway,, after a week of fun we headed home.. Had major traffic problems, then some car problems, got late,, got lost in Chicago,, ended up getting really late, kids getting whiny wanting to get another motel.. Pulled into the UNREAL joint (only place with any vacancy) - walked up to this three inch thick window,, shady looking character appears behind the window,, told him I needed a room for 6 of us,, dork wad says $135 - cash only, peeled off the cash, walked to the room, place was right out of the twilight zone.. I had to repair the air unit to get it to work (5 pound coffee can of nasty stuff off the evaporator to get it to work), lights didnt work, funny "spot" on floor turned out to be the outline of a body (just like on "cop" shows my 8 year old daughter tells me in the morning (as my wife and I were laughing about the fact that the beautiful "Hitching Post" back in Gurney was only $59 a night).. And people still still wonder why we tent camp...

COOL - wayyy cool!! Tell ya one thing though, would hate to have a flat on that puppy.. Have ridden down many a scoot with a flat tire (including fully loaded 1st Gen Ventures with 2 up) and, bar none - the very worst was our little Honda Helix.. All because of its low center of gravity and length = really tricky to get her stopped...

Oppsss,, someone musta forgot about the Slingshot.. Got yapping with my dear friend @Carbon_One at a recent event about his - I might be wrong but I think he said his scoot is 1700 pounds.. Also wonder where the Boss Hoss falls into our discussion Eckster,, seems like that big ol V-8 scoot would also be right up there.. Interesting discussion my friend - THANKS for posting!!

Prayers Up GW, sorry to hear about all this (medical stuff can be SO frustrating).. Been a little over a year now with multiple doctors trying to figure what has been trying to put me in the grave (at least it felt that way). Long story short, it wasnt until I was jacked up with Prednizone (artificial adrenaline) during an ER Visit last spring that I actually felt better and, ironically - my blood pressure became controllable. Found out I was Adrenaline Deficient.. Ended up at an Endocrinologist.. After taking blood pressure meds for many years, this guy explained something I had never heard before.. One of the adrenal glands main functions is the control of BP - go figure.. Bottom line, if you haven't already done it (your pretty sharp - you probably already had this done) you might want to have your Cortisol levels checked just to be sure things between your Pituatary and Adrenal Glands are happening correctly, simple blood test and WELL WORTH THE TIME!! My thoughts and prayers are with you GW!! Puc

,, you guys are the GREATEST!!! I wanna say something here, there is so much going on behind the scenes of all this chatter - things that only can be found out about by actually attending one of these Meet n Greet.. Things way beyond or or :guitarist 2:or even . These fine folks are doing the bestest to encourage you folks who have not joined us yet to come and be part of the enlightened generation .. All that said - if you happen to see a Pucs Greet - Meet n Eat Meat posted next riding season, please remember that when I say I am inviting all 12000 members to it - I mean it. I guarentee you will go home with a on your face and feeling of ,, ohhhhhh,, now I get it:big-grin-emoticon:

OUTSTANDING Chaplain (on both causes)!! Knowing that big beautiful fancy camera of yours, you probably are gonna have to resize the pics to post em up Dusty.. I been doing so using "Paint" - posted up a thread recently about the how to's of it but I know if you scroll thru the forum titles - somewhere toward the bottom of the forum page selection is an area where @Freebird has a thread that describes other way(s) of getting the job done.. I will say this,, most (if not all) of the struggles I have seen on here having to do with posting pics are resolved totally by getting the pics sized properly (someone correct me if I am wrong here ) After making sure the pic's are sized properly (I try to keep my camera set on "640x480" but have resized and posted pics up to 1000x750), if you are in a thread - click "reply" - click "Advanced" - scroll down to "manage attachments" , screen will open to "browse attachments", click on browse,, find the pic that has been resized that you want to post, Click "done" when ya got all the pics you want to post uploaded.. After you click "done", the file names should appear in your the rough draft of your posting down at the bottom by their prespective file names. When you post it is when the pics appear.. Best way to learn it Dusty is by trial and error,, dont worry if ya mess up - these guys are a forgiving bunch,,,, keep playing with the thang till ya make it work cause we SURE wanna see the pics of that Grand Child of yourn!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup: (and would REALLY love to see the pics of your trip too my brother!!) Any other questions, feel free to ask, call the house,, send a snail mail or just SCREAM PS,, ice cream sounds GOOD!!

You da man Wiz :clap2:!!! CONGRATS on ride well done!!:dancefool:

Here in Michigan our State and Federal lands are similar to most of the western States = open - camp for free anytime.. Anyone know if WV is like that and if there are State/Federal Lands in the area of where the International will be held?

While I too totally admire his creativity and ingenuity I really fail to see the common sense (or respect for his neighbor) in running around the neighborhood dumping that nasty black soot on people out for a casual stroll . I have kids that live in California and KNOW first hand where @Condor is coming from but I honestly think that we creative folks (and there are a BUNCH of us on VR) serve an even higher calling than the ones laid forth by even the great state of CA Jack.. Probably sounds nuts but, from one gear head to another (like most of you folks, there are a few "off the wall" machines in my past too) he should never have even pulled the thing out of the garage until that smoke beltching monster's engine was brought up to proper running condition:doh:. Could make a difference between the smog cops showing up and having your tools takin away from you (or worse = BAD relationship with your neighbor's/fellowman) and having the neighbor's standing in line taking pictures and wanting you to build em one Other than that - heck ya,, running right = I would GLADLY ride that Mad Max Road Warrior machine right down main street during the Sturgis Rally with a great big smile on my sun tanned face :big-grin-emoticon: I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

OUTSTANDING DAVID!!! I can easily see how you could have spent a lot of time camping up there,, matter of fact - just looking at those 3 pics that you posted made me see 3 places I now have to go drop my tent at someday:big-grin-emoticon: Especially that last one with the perfectly good flat surface of rock just the right size for a 5x7 Menards tent:thumbsup:

Hey Or,, bottom line - THANK YOU for paying attention to the road and not allowing those "stupids" to commit harie carie on the front of your pick-up truck (and possibly injuring my buddy Orlin either)!! Seems like that old saying of "ya cant fix stupid" is getting proven on the roadways a lot more often these days.. You da man brother!!

Why thank ya Bill for telling it like it is.. Indeed, it is a ton of work setting this stuff up BUT - well worth the time and effort cause the final outcome is ALWAYS AWESOME!! You are right brother, that last one was a dandy! I know everyone really enjoyed the pre-Hot Dog tour of the area and EVERYONE loved the parade - in the planning process I wasnt real sure how that would all fit into the culture and aura of what has become one of the nations greatest Meet n Greet opportunities (way things are going - I think the whole thing is gonna be bigger than the Sturgis Rally) but it worked. @mirider and I were talking and I told him that I almost had the funding together for firework's too but not quite there yet - perhaps next year..

Right there with ya Eckster - to ALL the LEO's and civilians who had anything to do with capturing this varmint (if he is guilty)!! I know similar things have been going on up here in Michigan - seems like when they built I-94 down by Battle Creek they didnt know they had placed it on a rifle range between the bench rests and the targets - been a BUNCH of damaged vehicles and a couple people injured by flying lead down there. I dont think they have harvested those culprits yet but, given time, I hope they do my friend and will be :clap2::dancefool: just like we are right now over the incident you brought up!