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Oh come on!! That factual piece of historic data has got to deserve at least one showing of that amazing little WWW rattle can sign painter!!!! ,, you know,, as simple minded and as easy to entertain as I am,, I could sit and study/watch that little feller for hours,, watching him shake that can and his hair move in perfect timing with the rattle of the can.. Then watch the over spray gather around his perfect graffiti artest paintestry.. Sooo amazing!! At least for the simple minded such as myself.. COME ON FOOL,, give it up!!!!

I met me a lop eared varmint once who had created a device,, particially powered by electricity but from what I saw of the machine - it appeared to also be Nuclear in its workings too, that actually controlled our weather.. Thats right,, now known in the weather conspiracy arena's as the Wisconsin White Washer,, it is a known fact that this infamous machine has caused endless misery to unsuspecting victims who have fallen to its spew of snow!! That being said,, if a varmint can produce such an atrocity,, what makes one think that another less than stellar varmint of a lesser breed could not come up with the means of doing exactly what you describe Fool!!

THANK YOU Poppa for your sound advice and extremely kind offer! Both are GREATLY appreciated! From a totally clueless innocent bystander victims perspective - it will be interesting to see how this all plays out

Frank,, please see reply above to Fool,, what you describe is exactly how I tested it.. Going from memory,, there was a harness going into the compressor compartment of the cabinet that consisted of 3 wires - x2 110 volt AC leads and X1 smaller ground wire. The harness was removable from the compressor case via a female terminal on the harness itself that plugged into a male terminal that was/is located on the compressor itself.. The chewing spot was on the ground section of this harness found on the section of the harness that was located up in the controls/device area in the cainet.. I remember cleaning up the chewed area by splicing that ground with a butt splice and turning the air back on,, with nothing happening!! Thats when I tossed the high volt disconnect for the unit thinking I may have missed a chewed off wire somewhere, pulled the cabinet top, removed the cooling fan, pulled the harness from the compressor and tested it with a Volt/Ohm meter and discovered the windings had an open.. I doubled checked everywhere on the compressor and even checked a road map (what I always called a Schematic) looking for thermal protection device for the compressor and discovered that it is thermally protected INTERNALLY - arrrggg.. Then got my quotes and got sick and am still here and now bugging you guys

I actually unplugged the harness down at the motor so just the 3 terminals were exposed on the side of its case Jeff.. I then did my testing there to avoiding testing thru any of the devices up stream from the actual compressor.. Thanks for not giving up on me brother,, as soon as this flood crisis is over I will pop the lid on the cabinet the compressor sets in and redo my testing and do so while videoing so you guru's can have a peek and input with this type of awesome advice!

Unc,, I am sorry I totally missed your post here when posting earlier,, thinking you must have been in the process of making it while I was doing mine and beat me to the draw!! THANK YOU for taking the time to dig around and for offering up the 3 tonner!! I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT UNC!! YOU DA MAN!! As soon as we get some of this flood crisis under control, I will do a retest on the compressor that I believe is shot and double/triple recheck my past testing to be sure that I am on the right track and proceed from there brother! Thanks again for the support both professionally and as a friend - I DEFINITELY appreciate it!! By the way,, as far as the unit not be pretty? You know me Unc,, I look wayyy past the skin on the outside,, if its to bad I can always cover it with stickers LOL:big-grin-emoticon:

it Hi Unc!! Thanks again for the input!! I am gonna have to sideline my condenser project for a tad (see pics above) and get back to it as soon as the flood waters recede here.. THANK YOU for your assistance to this point brother, will reconnect soon with some more pics of the condenser and a reject video on my testing of the motor as we chatted about! Thank you!!

Absolutely no need to go back in your corner ya lop eared WWW snow monster varmint!! I am tracking 100% with you Jeff and thank you and appreciate your input!! It's been a while since I opened up the cabinet and found the mouse chewed wiring and did the testing and all that,, it went down right at the beginning of my health failing, I stuck a 12000 btu shacker in bedroom window to stay cool while dealing with all the health stuff that took me off my feet for a bit.. From memory,, as I recall,, a mouse/chipmunk got into the control/terminal box on the side of the condenser cabinet.. It managed to chew thru the ground wire in the harness going down to the motor. The stripped ground wire managed to connect with one of the hot wires (I can't remember if it was a one of the leads going down to the motor or if it was high voltage lugged up on the controls that touched the ground wire,, I think it was one of the hots in the motor harness). I do remember cutting the bad section out of the ground wire and butt splicing it. When I was unable to get the compressor to start I pulled the harness from the compressor and it tested bad,, I believe it tested open on one of the hot legs going into the compressor windings - going from memory.. I did some digging, thinking the compressor would be thermally protected and found out that the thermal protection for that compressor was internal of the hermatically sealed unit.. I then did some digging and found out that yes, it was possible to open it up by tossing the unit on a lathe and opening the compressor and replacing the internal "fuse" and then rewelding the compressor.. At that point I called in a pro to get an opinion on my options and was told they did not repair compressors,, way to expensive and that I would need to replace from the A Frame evap coils back consendser.. I called a couple more installers to see how the price thing looked.. At that time between 2 and 3 grand was where the bids fell.. I been feeling a little more productive these days (actually awake more then 4 hours a day lately) and was contemplating the air unit and maybe grabbing a condenser and installing myself and that is why I posted here,, just to get some thoughts.. I do plan on going back out and retesting the motor while videoing myself so you guru's can crap detect me.. I was actually hoping to do that today and getting a plan established before the heat sets in BUT,, then this MASSIVE flood started so the entire air unit project is gonna be side lined for a bit.. After that last 6 inches of rain fell last night I have been busy with gas/power/internet outages and helping others with sump pump installs as well as replacing one of my own and unplugging a sump line to move some of the water around,, it's gone insane here!!! All while social distancing of course!! A couple pictures of todays challenges (the pic of the radar shot is from last night as we were in chat!!) that we woke up to - 6 inches of rain on top of a completely saturated area:

,, no opinion on the MK2's,, my Venture experience is surrounded by torturing MK1's!!

Quicky pics of what things look like!!

Thanks Unc!! I will get the info to you just as soon as it quits pouring rain so I can meander outside and look for a spec plate,, or two,, or three!! Puc

House is 15 years old.. The evaporater is inside a plentum above the furnace and the condenser is outside sitting on a concrete slab beside the house.. I am not sure what size it is or what refrigerant it is.. I wonder if there is spec plate on either the condenser itself or maybe somewhere on the furnace.. I know that the plentum also supports and has a humidifier attached to the same area as the internal "A FRAME" evaporator.. I hear what @Marcarl is saying but also know that what you are saying is exactly what I noticed by shopping E-Bay... One of those "Goodman" complete condenser units on there for 600 or 800 bucks looks mighty inviting as a repair unit project.. I just thought I could save some cash and have some fun tinkering with it BUT,, I really dont wanna throw away the cash I could have used to hire it done... You know what I mean Sky,, I KNOW you do, your a do it yourselver too.. Anyway,, thanks to both you lop eared varmints for your advice!! Puc

Your welcome Mama! Can't imagine the talent of someone able to keep such gorgeous, iconic machine as that up to snuff!! I know Moped has those skills,, is your Son also in that league? You are sooo right,, that is downright amazing!!!

I know we have numerous Venture guru's here that I have bugged to death thru the years (thanks you guys/girls!!) in keeping the old 1st Gens out doing what they do best = CTFW but was wondering,, any one ever fool around installing a Central Air Conditioner Condenser? Crazy as it this may sound,, brother Murphy and his band of misfits who love following me around instructed a Chipmonk or Mouse (could't tell which by his/her remains) in the fine art of chewing on just the right wire on our homes condenser to short out the Compressor on ours and to do so internally on the compressor so as to not disturb any thermal or electrical protection outside of the compressor did there job to perfection:Avatars_Gee_George:.. I did a little calling around and found out that for a professional installer/repair person to come in and repair the unit - we are looking at over 2 grand as,, I am being told,, the whole unit including the Evaporator "A Frame" coil would also have to be replaced as they are made to be used only as a matched unit??.. As in my nature,, I always question answers like this,,, I KNOW - ITS A FLAW IN MY GREATLY FLAWED CHARACTER TO ALWAYS QUESTION THIS BUT = why cant I just by a brand new condenser - cabinet and all and just install it myself? If possible,, what kind of job am I looking at in so doing?? Tools? Methods? Any secrets you may be willing to share (dont tell me nothing your Union is gonna hang you for) about install tricks?? Think I'm nuts? Feel free to say so,, heard it all before THANKS IN ADVANCE for any or no advice.. Puc

Heyyy,, I ain't no Buckeye!!! ,, cant ya see the flag in the upper right hand corner there!! Aint much of a mechanically inclined Wolverine either so, yeah,, you and those guru's you hang out with hang around here,, I may need to pick your brain some brother!!

Speaking of hitches,, I got a real nice Markland with all the attachements for a MK1 that there is no way on Gods green earth I am ever going to use.. Anyone thinking of playing with such craziness can PM me.. Personally,, I never cared for the idea of having a trailer pile drive Tip, Me and our luggage into the side of some kids car whose driver was busy answering a text message (one would never have been able to squeeze between the tree's on those deer runs we used to traverse to access/camp on the North Rim either but thats a different issue).. I always figured my reactionary time that engages my avoidance skills had not been developed to include a trailer hooked to the back of us BUT - I do know plenty of people who have those remarkable skills down pat and are able to toss their bike around with the trailer attached like it was not even there so I know its doable.. Concerning the whole warranty thing.. This is gonna sound like a little more of Puc's typical babble I am sure but,, back from 99 thru 2001 Polaris had major issues with their new to the market - Victory brand of motorcycles.. It seemed that the trannies in those early models had a major design flaw that caused tranny failures and even caused some rear wheel lockup issues.. I was really close friends with a fellow business man who owned the local Polaris shop (as well as other brands) at the time and we always shared a lot of industry news with each other.. Remember,, this is a time well after the Magnuson Act was passed here in the States.. As the early buyers of those bikes started having issues and started coming back to my buddies dealership for warranty work,, the dealership got notice from Polaris that they would not be honoring any warranties on those bikes but were choosing to forward the decision making of such into the courts.. Concerned,, my friend did some investigating (which he should have done before he ever took the Polaris franchise on IMHO) and found out that this was actually customary for Polaris to do business as such.. It appeared that the Polaris attorneys of that time period (they, as most large corporations had/have a full time staff of attorneys that are paid whether they do anything or not) and bean counters had gotten together and figured out that there was no way possible that court fees/fines of a Magnuson violation would even come close to the costs of funding the warranty work needed to cover the bikes flaws = they just refused to do it therefor! Polaris did hire an outside company to redesign the flawed trannies but those new trannies did not come out until 01 or 02 - all the owners of the flawed bikes ended up having to just eat their losses and the bikes they had purchased never did get warranty repair. My buddie kicked Polaris to the curb over this issue so I remember it all like it was yesterday.. Would another company like Yamaha ever think of doing such a thing?? I am sure not,, they have always stood behind their products and given the customer exactly what they have paid for,, usually even more than what they paid for with continual and prompt customer service being a mainstay to the their business model - SO PLEASE DO NOT MISREAD WHAT I JUST WROTE!! Just saying,, I think it always best, IMHO, to cover my own butt and know what could happen is not impossible to happen.. Know what I mean?

,, I would LOVE to own something like that!! I'd ride it too!! Just like his Mom, your son's got really good taste Mama!!! Thanks for sharing!! Puc

She really don't,, but like a handful of others, I do!!

:scared:WOWZY WOW WOW WOW,, great job on doing the research and putting that to writing Marcarl,, you done a good job IMHO!!! As is "normal" for me,, I tend to look at things a little differently,, always have and probably always will:missingtooth:.. Believe it or not,, like most of you I had Grandparents too and one of them,, my Grandpa took a special liking to me as a youngen. He use to tell me stories of the old days and taught me stuff as a kid that I will never forget.. From those discussions and from some of my own lives journey,, although not as eliquent as Carls writings (no one puts words to use like Carl ), here are my thoughts on the subject: Yeah,, those folks born in 1900 obviously did have it rougher than we do BUT,, here are some things that they got to behold that may,, or may not have,, been pretty interesting: 1. They got to experience the introduction of the motorcycle!!! Bill Harley and Art Davidson were over on the other side of Lake Michigan from me,, in @Flyinfool's home town,, having a riot in a little shed producing what would become the worlds most iconic motorcycle of all time!! 2. Great inventors like John Browning was alive and well and working steadfastly on weapons that would assist in the fight to keep our homeland free.. From his amazing mind came one of my all time favorite shooters - the 1911 45 acp!! An incredible piece of history to behold for the first time back then, as it is now, I am sure!! IMHO, probably just as important and as awesome as Sam Colts "Peace Maker" was to the 1800's!! 3. I am sure that the multitudes of folks born in 1900 who always wondered what was beyond the horizons of more than a few miles travel a day on foot or horseback were amazed and thankful to see Henry Ford make the automobile affordable for all families by his mass production ideas.. American ingenuity and capitalism was in full swing and on fertile ground thankfully as the world would find out when our country put the practices Henry broughtex to the forefront and was used to defeat both Communist and Socialist aggression one more time in the very near future.. God help us and what would this world be like now if people like Henry Ford had not been able realize the potential of his dreams! 4. Speaking of the sickness and death the people of those days had to face,, think also of the fulfillment of the saying "necessity is the mother of invention" of that day and age.. How once freedom from oppression is realised, even though hungry/tired and working thru tough times may be the testing of the day, the human mind has a way of declaring WE WILL SURVIVE! I am sure people like Jonas Salk felt that way as his long hours of hard work finally paid off and the vaccine for Polio was realised.. My own Grandfather told me how absolutely joy filled and thankful our country,, and the world for matter,, everyone was when this great American victory was hailed!! I am old and my pointer finger is getting tired so I will end here.

Not sure if this is what you were/are referring to Patch but this popped up in my e-mail today as a post by Bum.. If my assumption is correct and this video is what you are referring to,, INDEED,,, very well put @saddlebum!!! On this,, Patch and I totally agree!!! P.S. - if I am wrong on this,, please disregard this post!! Here is the video that popped up in my email:

WOWZY,, that is really sad,,, I get it but it's still really sad.... ,, ya know,, take it back,, I still really dont get it,, I know,, here I go again,, steppin out onto a branch of which I do not belong but what da heck,, its that flaw in my charactor sneakin out again .. If I were over in Consin,, on the eastern boundry of Freedom,, I would just alter my plans (like I ever had any whenever Tip, Tweeks and I headed west) and spend the entire adVenture making a game out of avoiding people.. I know endless spots to camp,, for free - openly on the prairies - in the mountains - under cell towers - under awnings or abandoned gas stations - sneak in the backroads of the NP's and camp miles and miles away from everything and everybody and on and on.. Live off peanut butter and the apples hanging from the side of the scoot... Sometimes in life,, matter of fact most times in my life, the greatest times are had by doing things the people who have no clue are telling you not to do are exactly the things you really should be doing - ,, I am not sure even I can figure that one out and it came out of my mind

What???? and @Marcarl said I was a SD!!!