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with the dyno sheet showing that his new motor, which had dual turbo's attached it, would produce just over 1000 horse power and 650 foot pounds of torque. Our Icelandic friend has visions of putting a whoopin on

Indeed Fool!! Then you could get that nozzle control right down to exact placement... I sure am glad I invested heavily in that contraption - we are gonna make MILLIONS, maybe even BILLIONS when you figure in selling to people out for revenge on others - booohahahahahaha:big-grin-emoticon::big-grin-emoticon:

And the underlying message in Mama's reasoning here is exactly why the ol Pucsteroni will always be king of the mountain when it comes to Professional Hugging Contests..

The Wizard of White Wash has spoken some mighty powerful words there I tell ya!!!:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

As in all things Shmily,, the following is one of those "IMHO" thingies.. Most bikes really do have a "purpose built" idea behind them. There is an old saying that I have heard many times over in race circuits = a fast rider will be fast no matter what he rides. That saying does hold a lot of merit BUT - a world class MXer is not going to be able to compete on a Motocross Track, even with Novice riders, if he is riding a Honda Goldwing on the track - just aint gonna happen. Now that is an extreme example BUT - within that extreme example are some very important items that cant be ignored! I have seen the question you are asking and what I am responding with played out many many times over - from little kids on minibikes to adults on big bikes, indeed - a purpose built bike being applied to what it is purposely built for can, will and usually does inspire confidence - you are not on crack:biker: Experience has also taught me though that an overly confident person ( it is not uncommon for a bike to inspire to much confidence) is usually a very dangerous person too though. For instance, that GTL that you pointed out - I look at a scoot like that and TOTALLY see a TON of fun waiting to be had. I have the exact same "feeling" run thru me when ever I view videos of the new V-Max because I LOVE massive HP and Torque. My underlying problem (for me) is that I also know that big power numbers like those two produce can actually work against you when the user friendliness and over input forgiveness found in handling lesser HP machines when ya wick on em is gone. The more powerful they are, the more precise you have to be in your input (there is always a give and take) - make sense? Just something to think about.. Hey Shmily,, what other machines have you got in the group of guys you ride with?

My 1st Gen doesnt have a spin on but if it did I would be doing the ol 1/2 to 3/4 past o-ring contact,, its always nice to not have to chisel the old filter off when you do the next change.. Me n Bongo gotta another thing in common,, I am a coater of the seal too Bob.. So,, anyone ever stick a spin on on with the o-ring missing? Its amazing how much oil an oil pump can push out in a very short time.. PS,, I can only hope this somehow offends Carl,,, I can also only hope that we are talking about the same Carl...

What da heck,, my indelible memories of the FlyinFool making sure I get the first frosty's of the season are forever scorned Flied Lice!! Oh well, at least I have the knowledge that you were not actually home to get to shovel the stuff so I guess it aint so bad.. WHAT A FANTASTIC IDEA - stick up a streaming outdoor cam!! YOU are da man brother - can not wait to see that puppy in action Flied Lice!!

Ahhh yes,, that ever ending fine line between genius and being down right crazy:big-grin-emoticon:... Never ever a problem Sylv, truly my friend - I take all the comments in the spirit of and even the 's with a on my pretty face:big-grin-emoticon:.. Being an inquisitive type of does have its ups and downs but the downs have never come from my buddies like yourself reminding me that sometimes I cross into the zone of to much craziness and not enough geniusness Glad you guys actually join me in watching the vids though cause being a little crazy is wayyyyy more fun when you have company

even a highly skilled Harley owner like her husband was amazed. The person who she had purchased the engine from had taken 2 V-4 Yamaha motors and somehow connected them together creating a 8 cylinder engine that

Sounds like you actually got the best of both worlds Shmily, got a very understanding wife, got the extra cash AND your smart enough to know your own limitations. I think the key here may very well be figuring out what exactly it is you are looking for in your scoot, what will bring you home in one piece and what will make YOU happy at the end of the day . I too am an avid proponent of riding your own ride, simply put - I dont like to see people get hurt and I sure as beans dont like getting hurt.. I have led a number of neighborhood outings on motorcycles. I tend to be one of those types who likes to cater to the needs of the slower paced riders when I do lead, if we have a brand new rider who needs to do 15 mph on a 35 mph hair pin we all do 15. That said, in some of those situations Tip and I will actually climb on our Honda Helix scooter and go have a blast. Of course, if we are headed cross country we both LOVE riding Tweeks (our 83). We have looked and looked at many other scoots but the fact is, that beat up old Venture fits our needs to a tee. Then there is this ol V-Max that I just picked up. One of my best friends here in our area has a new V-Rod - I LOVE riding with him and he and I have been enjoying some really really good times out playing motorcycle tag like a couple a teenagers. He also picked up a Honda Ruckus moped to go out and play with me on my Puch 1.5 horse moper.. You may notice a "trend" in all that,,, that being that not all scoots are created equal but all scoots are suppose to be about having fun and for everyone involved to come home satisfied and in one piece.. It is interesting that you mention in your original post that this whole thing kind of revolves around going out with a group of your good friends (must be cause you also mentioned 4 or 5 day adventures = spending multiple days together usually indicates some pretty good friendships = SOUNDS LIKE A RIOT!!). Considering that, maybe what you need to do is take a closer look at what the rest of that group is riding and get yourself something that "fits" closer to the group dynamics. If I had a group of ten really close friends that did a yearly multi day ride and they were all on Sport bikes I may just pick myself up a sport bike and leave my Venture at home. On the same token though,, being me I may also take a hard look at lightening up my Venture for "track days" with the boys first.. Loose the trunk, drop the windshield down to four inches, tighten the boingers, get softer/stickier rubber on the tires and all that and see how it rolls.. You may find out that tweeking your Venture towards the needs of the day may solve a lot of your problems - may also find yourself with multiple bikes for multiple applications in the end too:big-grin-emoticon: Talking about all this is almost as much fun as doing it,,, almost....:bikersmilie:

Heyyyyy,,, Shmily struck a nerve with this post,, out of 8 views it has 7 responses:stickpoke:!! :clap2::dancefool::thumbsup:

Might take a quick peek back at the pic GW put up of the Beemer.. Notice how high on the seat line the passenger is setting than the driver is setting? IMHO, an increase in that measurement increases top heaviness which is not necessarily helpful in twisty management..

Out of all the twisties on all the mountains with all the bikes (including some sport bikes) I have ridden along with on my 1st Gens (never rode a 2nd Gen) I have never been let down with at least being able to keep up - that is one area that I have really never had a complaint.. IMHO, One of the reasons this may or may not be so has to do with the 1st Gens having mid controls.. I have owned other scoots that were forward controls only and gotta admit - that riding position has always lacked in the adrenaline filled world of peg scraping for me.. Probably just me being an odd duck but pegs under me give me more of a feeling of control.. I like to keep my toes twisted down and dab for the corners with it and can usually tell how deep into a corner I am by how far I have to dab to touch pavement, this saves on that icky feeling of scraping (lots of folks like to scrape - I dont actually like the "feeling" that comes over the bike when in a lean and touching steel to pavement). That brings up another thought for ya Schmily,, how often do you scrape your pegs in those corners? That peg scraping business is kind of a barometer of how hard you are pushing the bike IMHO. If your scraping all the time then ya,, you may very well be overriding your scoots capibilities (could also be suspention not set up correctly). On the same token though, if you have never found the confidence to be able to lean er into the curve and touch bottom once in a while then thats a different subject having to do with practice and getting to know your scoot and learn to trust it... Now, about that Beemer,, HOKEY SPAMOKY - 160 horsies and 129 foot pounds of torque!! Just pulled up this video about the GTL and WOW,, can definitely see where your "in love" is based - GORGEOUS SCOOT!! Lots of cash up front though,, I think if I were in your shoes I would take a serious look at what I was mentioning concerning the question of - am I holding my current bike back from its potential or is it holding me back - and THAT is question only you can answer.. WOW ZZZZZ WOW WOW WOW!! Didnt know Beemer had a 6 cylinder 160 hp touring scoot out there... I gotta get out more and MOTHER YAMAHA - YOUR MISSING IT - wont be long and that new V-Max motored Venture will be nothing but a pipe dream

I would pull air box cover and filter, check the slides for ease of movement. I would also still pull the the slide diaphrams , take a peek to be sure all is well in there - make sure they are all lined up and sealed properly. By all means, doing a compression test just to be sure all 4 are adequate is always a plus when diagnosing a scoot you really have no idea where its at..

This any better Fool?

Hmmmm,, what da heck,, I see it,,,, let me do some checking here...

Nah,, never did jet it out - seemed to do just fine by pinching the fins close together.. I gotta hunch that as long as you dont change the stock air box/filter and give it more air along with opening the pipe you should be ok. If you gut the inside of the muffs and find it seems to be running a little lean you can always add a washer into the pipes to restrict flow as needed.. Works great and saves on having to rip the carbs apart for jetting.. You can also fatten it up by shimming the needles with nylon washers if needed, a little more involved than tacking in a couple washers but still way easier that pulling the carbs and trying to jet out of a lean condition.. I still think a butterfly valve in each outlet would be fun (basically a washer as I mentioned on a pivot - real old school thinking), cable operate so you can open and close em as needed.. Those would be in the outlets before the megaphones, could easily adjust exhaust tones to exactly where you like em..

that a 1st Gen Yamaha Venture motor was exactly what he needed cause they are very durable and have the given advantage of being almost twice as fast as the later model 2nd Gen's. Finding a good motor though is never easy because most of those 1st Gen's have found their way into hibernation in an area of the United States known as

Got er fired up and ran her a little to make sure I wasnt tossing my spare change away on a run capacitor and it needing more expensive stuff (see last vid here Jeff). Haven't done anything else with it at this time (simple case of procastination) but intend to pick up a new cap first chance I get.. Thanks for the info though @Flyinfool - should have figured you would want me to be able to :stickpoke::stickpoke:with all that you will be sending soon!!

Hey Gary, no idea if you have access any form of welding equipment,, oxy/ace torch with some brazing rod? I took some 1 1/4 inch (if memory serves me - this was years ago on 1st Gen #3) thin wall chain link fence posts, cut em to length. Then took some sheet steel, used different sized bowls from the wifes kitchen and chalk marked out to bodies for some fish tails. Kicked a little bend in the pipes just before the spot where I welded the tabs on to hold the pipes on the Venture. Fishtails were pretty good sizes, plenty of length and depth to be able to squeeze em together for getting the exact sound I was looking for.. In the end they sounded SUPER and would belch flames if you tached it out and slammed it shut - really really pretty.. Total cost was just a couple bucks (had the pipe and sheet metal in my scrap metal pile).. Painted em high temp flat black and called it good. Ran those pipes a LOT when I was riding 1 up. Also cut my windshield down to make the air flow just clear the top of my head - ended up with about a 4 inch shield. Also ran it with no trunk, had a set of Honda Shadow spots on it that I picked up from a swap meet with a set of mule deer horns mounted on the spots.. Got side tracked,, back to your 75 dollar scoot - WAY COOL!! I am also one to take a simple throw away scoot and go have fun on it - your a man after my own heart. I have seen those cones off the end of a set of 1st Gen muffs before,, thinking it was in a junk yard with one that had rotted apart or something.. For some reason I am thinking those may be spot welded on and make take some doings to knock em apart. Personally, I always refrained from enhancing my stockers to much because I didnt ride alone all the time and loud pipes can get a little tiresome on 2 month trips.. Concerning the "loud pipes save lives" idea.. My wife, Tip, and I bumped into a really interesting character riding an electric motorcycle across America a couple years ago when leaving Moab Utah. Guys name is Terry Hershner (or something like that) and he is really good friends with the very well reknown Craig Vetter. Terry was on his way to some kind of an electric bike competition in Ohio when we bumped into him. Got telling him that we LOVE to coast (engine off, in neutral,, downnnnn da mountain we go) and our farthest non stop was 29 miles and 36 minutes.. He LIKED that whole idea, kinda put us on the same wave length as someone riding electric.. Anyway,, like you,, I have spent a fair amount of time on a bike in NYC (had a daughter who went to school in Manhatten - 69th and 1st - Cornell), LA, Chicago and other insane cities.. Terry was from San Diego (I think) so I knew he had traveled some traffic on his bike. I happen to have asked him if he had had any issues resulting from not being heard.. He smiled and said EVERYDAY!! He and I actually talked about him building a loud speaker system with the recording of a big twin piped Harley that he could turn on when it traffic because of this issue. BUT,, on the other hand,, he and I both shared in the other side of the coin too about how much fun it is to silently motivate across the open desert late in the evening like bird on the wing...

Belated condolences to all of you at such a great loss!! Sorry I missed this but you are all in my thoughts and prayers now.. Prayers Up!!

Still out here sending the Prayers Up for our Skidder!!

Prayers Up brother, please let her know we are pulling for her!!! Thank you for the update!!

Thinking we are talkng CB/Radio controls....

83 rear brake read this http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?12536-Stranded-with-brakes-sticking-and-heating-up-Read-this Its also entirely possible that the caliper pistons are sticky. Either way, if the brake pads are not releasing - getting hot - lockiI ng up can happen. Tongue n cheek = the ability to actually lock the rear brakes on an 83 is something most of us can only dream of To cylinders not firing = possibly carb diaphrams have fallen apart - I rode my current 83 (Tweeks) home from purchasing her several years ago in that condition with well under 30k on her. Repaired diaphrams = still hitting on all four and well over 300k on her. May also be ignition, pull plugs - ground em and see what cha got. Could also be plugged carb jets/not getting fuel. Clutch = never did have good clutches = need up graded springs. Is it out of fluid in the master? Got air in the line? Can you feel any resistance when you pull the clutch lever? 89 Picture appears that fork springs are sacked. This makes limited travel of fork tubes into legs - hit small bump and CLUNK is common. Replace springs with Progressives. Also check neck bearing tightness - could be sloppy enough to make noise but this usually occures while braking over bumps with front brake. Long time to warm up is subjective, 2 minutes, 10 minutes, 20 minutes? Could need good carb cleaning. Does it respond well to choking on all four? Might try getting some miles on it with in tank cleaner like Sea Foam - some have had good luck with it. May also double check air filter and make sure its got one in it.. Bought one once that was missing air filter - ran like crap.. Talked to PO couple weeks later - said he removed it to make bike faster - argggg... Oil leaks, crud flowing down motor = old bikes sometimes do that:big-grin-emoticon: Make sure to never fill oil above mid sight glass on level bike - will aspirate to airbox and cover engine with oil. I have personnally seen MANY of these older scoots with LOTS of miles on them with spotless motors! BUT, I have worn out 5 83/84's and can tell you I have yet to have one that didnt leak at least a little oil.. Current bike uses almost a Quart between Michigan and Sturgis SD if I run her hard (which I normally do). I am probably not the right guy to tell you exactly how to trace oil leaks Hopefully one of our resident oil leak experts can help with that.. All above written as opinion, consider the source and BEST OF THE BEST with making em go Jdubb!!! By the way, if I were gonna keep one to ride and wasnt real sure of myself around this stuff I would keep the 89. The 83's had the tranny issue, stator issue, plastic water pump impellers and cannot be fitted with some updated R6 good stopping front calipers without a lot of work.. Also getting an xtra 100cc's and a few years newer on all those rubber hoses and stuff. Of course,, they are still a little slower then the 83's (well,, according to some people, the Blue MK 2's like you have are just as fast but everyone knows ya cant believe everything ya read on the net, even here on VR:stickpoke:). Both good looking scoots ya landed there!!