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:clap2::thumbsup: Tip of the hat to your Daughters future Mother-in-law Silv - the lady certainly has talent and is a very gifted individual! Beautiful gallery

Right back at cha @NewbeeMC9 and welcome to VR too!!

Sounds to me like a classic example of cooler abuse!

That there is the kinda stuff that beat Tweeks out of last years 1st place trophy at our local bike show - still bugs me:think: Years ago I got yapping with another builder out in Sturgis about the "spokeless" rear wheel on his showbike - the rim was basically a huge bearing and attached so I was able to crawl thru the center of the wheel - pretty amazing really. I asked about rideability of such a set up (the rear pulley had to be attached directly to the rim/bearings outer race - not giving much room between the pulley and the ground - I could not see how you could corner without making pavement contact with the outer edge of the pulley. His reply was "its strickly a show bike, not a rider". Now looking at the front wheel of this scoot Eck, it almost looks like the wheel has bearing surfaces at both the axle and at the rim O.D... Pretty cool really BUT, if that is so,, I wonder what kind of effect that would have on the gyro dynamics when steering:think: (noticing he didnt get the bike up to speed enough where the gyro dynamics begin to have effect ).. I know most auto wheels that give that "floating" appearance are done with hub caps on bearings - not the rim itself.. Good find brother!!

:dancefool::dancefool: :ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:ice_congrats-vi6886:sign Rock On: Now THAT is AWESOME Mr. and Mrs. Saddlebum!!! Congratulations to the two of you!! :clap2::clap2: Wishing you folks nothing but the greatest as you celebrate such a tremendous occasion! Puc

Right back you at Don! We have much to be thankful for and right at the top of that list is our family here on VentureRider. As we get bombarded from the modern day media with the troubles our world faces it can seem that peace and genuine brotherly love can be hard to find. We are fortunate to have a home here where we can check in on a regular basis and still find those golden nuggets that keep life balanced. I too would like to join you in wishing all of our lop eared varmint friends a blessed and wonderful Thanksgiving celebration and to thank each one of them for being who they are, goes for you too Bossman! Puc

Cone he had ordered disappeared in one little nibble. As Dan laid down in the parking lot next to his Blue Rocket ship

I hear that @uechi kid, IMHO it has a lot to do with population and how things gotta change when people start getting more crowded. I have toured your fine State many times over and am always amazed at how crowded it is and how things are really different there because of it. Another something that really interest me (probably because I have always been a biker at heart) has been the lack of motorcyclist there. Back in 78 I toured Cali on my Harley Low Rider thinking it would be biker haven - pulled into Ventura California singing that old "Then Came Bronson" song,, going down that long lonesome highway and all that.. WOW, was I surprized and in for an eye opener!! Still today I am shocked by the relatively few bikes I see on the road there (cars compared to bikes). One would think the place would be over run by motorcyclist and that biking would be a way of life out there - not so much. It seems like things like legal lane splitting, being able to ride the "Diamond" road, NO RAIN, price of fuel and the GORGEOUS views you guys have would make it so cars would kind of be the rarity - just not so.. Got into a discussion about all that with a Motorcycle Police one time years back and he was telling me that he thinks the lack of bikes has/had to do with the inherent dangers involved with having sooo many people on the roads all the time and, quite frankly, most people really dont like the odds of something bad happening and the guarantee that if you get nailed on a scoot you are the one that loses. Fact is, I think the whole hunting idea has some of the same underlying reasoning as to why folks out there play it down. I know this is all only part of the equation but after seeing it play out first hand, I do have agree with the Officer. I KNOW for fact that many many folks look at what I am talking about from the "political" side (not meaning to start anything here, my blood bleeds Constitutional Rights Red/White/Blue so please dont misunderstand my point of view) of hunting and the right to bear arms and all that BUT, until a person has spent a fair amount of time exploring California and, with an open mind, getting to know exactly what huge population numbers look like it can be hard to understand, IMHO. I also think that one of the things that make our country so great is that we can freely bounce around from one State to another, enjoy the culture differences and effect that things like population has had (both ways, I actually LOVE California and one of the things I LOVE about it are the people and their way of life and how they have adapted BUT I also LOVE places like Utah, Montana and Wyoming where folks still open carry side arms - BEAUTIFUL!!). As far as hunting goes, things have changed greatly here in Michigan too. Back when I was a kid it was normal for local schools to shut down during opening day of deer season,, most classes had empty seats during pheasant and duck openers too - kids got BB Guns for their 3rd Birthdays and Shotguns for 8th. Out of the way "Northern" towns that had populations of under a couple hundred people had population BOOMS when hundreds (or thousands) of folks piled in during the two week Gun Deer season. Back then a dirtbiker could also jump on two tracks, powerlines and pretty much cover all of Michigan (except for the East side - some spots over there have always been more "California" like in population). A lot of that has also changed now due to more population. Just a different way of life than when I was growing up.. Thank you for joining me in well wishing our Deer Hunters. While I don't hunt anymore I use to take it VERY seriously. For your enjoyment I am gonna attach a couple pics just for you. The first one is of my deer rifle my father bought me for my 12th Birthday. It's an old bolt action 30/30 Savage. Next is a shot of my first Deer. My method of hunting was always called "Brush Hunting" and my Dad always called me a "Brush Hunter" because I LOVED the thick stuff (something I learned from both hunting partridge and rabbits with dogs - I always followed the dogs and learned a LOT from them:178:). This "Buck" walked within 15 feet of me while hunting near Iron's Michigan (Deer Hunters MECCA up there and the dirtbike/snowmobile trails are AWESOME too) and it was so thick all I could get was just glimpses of his body. He (the deer) caught wind of me, jumped and ran - I had crawled (following deer paths) into a large area of Thorn Apple bushes (the term "thorn" here is an understatement, these bushes are equipped covered with 2 inch stickers - rough/hard hunting at its best. I jumped up, pulled up old trusty, every time the buck jumped his head would appear above the bushes - nailed em on his forth bound!! I later had an Indian lady who wanted some work done on her husbands Motorcycle but didnt have quite enough cash for the repairs (back when I had my shop). I LOVED her totem pole work and other things, offered her a "deal" on trading a carving on my deer rifle gun stock in swap. She didnt do half bad for a first time - she worked from a pic of my first deer that you see mounted. I was 14 when I got em, I was hooked and hunted A LOT with lots of success (Handgun, BLack Powder and Bow too!) until my Dad fell ill. Anyway, hope that tides you over till one of other hunters provides us with some more pics and stories

how tricky of a varmint that feller could be. Skid down shifted his Midnight RSV and instantly he was free of the smoke. He yelled at the top of his lungs that he thought he could catch Yammer if

@OrlinEngh bringing Moe home from the pet shop when he (Moe - not Or) was just a baby

Oooopsssie Daisy,, just finished posting that last post up - started it earlier before all the stuff about who rides what and why and all that.. In the mood for a poem,, lets see.. I like 2 strokes, 4 strokes, turbo's and more. right side shifts, left side brakes I guess I'm hardcore. Long bikes with springers and bobbers so short, it's make riding em so twitchy that some will abort. Old beat up mopeds or a brand new Roadglide, they make my face glimmer with a smile real wide. Suzuki's, Kawasaki's, Triumph's or a Vic, Indians, Can-Ams they all flik my Bic. I once had a War Bike that was oh so sweet, but still love my Helix who's ride is a treat. My V-Max is fast but there's faster out there, but I'll go race anyway because I really dont care. To show you how much this really is true, I'll tell you of Tweeks before I am thru. A Yamaha brand if you really must know, but it takes more than them to make that ol girl go. She was made in Japan, to that we agree, the relic's an immigrant, its easy to see. But her soul is American cause that's where she's been, the folks who have helped her are North American men. She's worn out, tattered and covered in fun, just like your bike or your bike no matter which one. In the end it don't matter which breed that we ride, cause we are ALL bikers and THAT is our pride!!!!

But still,, even with all the tweeks, twists, skewed stats and hidden business agenda's, with all this happening its still fun to read all the hype - THANK YOU @djh3!! Just remember this one point thru it all, when it comes to non-hype internet facts about hot dogs and Hot Dogs NO ONE can compete with a Puc's Greet - Meet and Eat Meat occasion here in the great State of Michigan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:happy65::happy65: :think:Nothing like blowing my own horn eay :think:Sorry about the hi-jack Deej:motorcyclehelmet:, sometimes my fingers get me in trouble:doh:

Sure wish it was that easy Chief. While I think that would be somewhat of a competition for the one Sir Joe posted in the video and I would not want to live downwind from the over spray of either of those machines, that Wisconsin White Washers range farrrrrr exceeds 126 feet.. The over spray from the WWW is measured in States and Provinces. A good example is I happen to know that @Flyinfool left the nozzles pointed west toward South Dakota when he left for his annual Deer chasing spree and it sounds like the over spray from that reached all the way down to Dan's place in WV. We even got skiffed in the process here and I am in the complete opposite direction!! Not to put any idea's in the frozen tundra that sits between the varmints lop ears I have a hunch that Jeff's machine, with the Snopercharger engaged, could bury that machine and the building behind it with one little poof!! :witch_brew::snow::snow::snow::witch_brew::witch_brew::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::usa::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow::snow:

on one side and duck taped to the other. The first rider able to get around Jonas and Don was a strange looking varmint with blonde pony tails flapping in the breeze. At first glance one could easily have mistaken this rider for a

Now how did you know where I was Yammer? I did everything right, got the leaf's up, spot cleaned out in the basement for Tweeks and Crud, got the blower on the tractor and everything but for some reason - even being prepared for this stuff still leaves me depressed. Or, maybe its some kind of hibernation mode kicking in or something, not sure. Sure am glad I got buddies like @MiCarl who are kind enough to remind me that it aint just me that the Fool picking on, misery sure loves company When I was kid in the snow I did play, outdoors in the cold it seemed forever I'd stay. Making snowmen for hours having the time of my life, this was before my four kids and my wife. My children all called me their "furnace man", because my body stayed hot like warm water in a pan. They would gather around and snuggle close by my side, as plans we would make for next summers ride. Then something happened to both me and my own, they grew up and left Tip and I all alone. In my furnace man's body I discovered a glitch, the last kid that left threw the air conditioning switch. Now all I can do is cover my head, when the Fool play's with the machine we all dread. I sure miss the days of degree's ninety and five, and that warm summer sun that keeps me alive. Weep not though my friend for we're not all dead meat, for the sun will return with it's glorious heat. Our V-4's will hum down the hi-way in fun, the "furnace man" wanes but his souls just begun!

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :lightbulb:may even be a good format for a video production:big-grin-emoticon: Youtube will never be the same after Mr. Potato Head gets done cleaning up all the rust in North America! Mr. @Eck, any problem with us having some fun with this?

Definitely sounds like your headed in the right direction Chaq, hopefully it all comes down to as simple as swapping oils out to get her to the point where its to your liking. It will be interesting to see if Vzuden is using something different in oil than what you have. Thinking about it, it seems like if it were that easily solved that they would have sent a memo to all Gen 2 owners to swap to the new oils:think: Very interesting thread my friend!

Supercharger Carl, Supercharger:big-grin-emoticon:.. A Turbo sounds ok when its spooling up but nothing like the gear whine of a scoot after ya drop a gear driven Supercharger on her!! :lightbulb:Or, maybe Yamaha is instructing its latest model of the Gen 2's owners to use a different oil - a LOT has happened over the years in synthetics and all that.. @vzuden, what are you using for oil in the 2012 and what are you using Chaq? If the noise bothered me and I was thinking of swapping out clutch baskets and all that, I would at least try an oil change first.

realize that our Icelandic friend is no one to mess with. By this time the rider on the Blue 1st Gen was

I was gonna get "DOT" tatooed on the small bald spot I have on the back of my head once but heard getting a Tatoo is kind of painful and I didnt want the pain distracting me so I changed my mind.. I am one of those naturally distracted folks who would not care for or need any extra distractions. Also, had a Pontiac Bonneville once that had the speedo display broadcasted on the windshield - drove me crazy.. Sounds cool though..

And before that gang of hi-way men come on here and start I have a question to toss out to em.. Years ago I had a Virago 750 that had some really bad starter issues (sounded like it had rocks in the starter drive). Checked around a little and found out that this ailment was common on a lot of Virago's.. I got the bike for free (mainly because of what I am referring to) so I figured what the heck - I'd tear her down and see if I could come up with a fix.. I ended up taking my dremel tool an cutting some relief on the starter gears (beveled their leading/ meeting edges back to about midway of the gear face). WOW did that work awesome!! I have never really minded the clutch whine on my 1st Gens (been around gear driven superchargers a little - always LOVED that sound of POWER - another flaw in my charactor) and never tried this but I wondered if cutting some relief in the basket and mating gears might just quiet way down - any of you geniuses ever try it?

I too would have to agree with the others, if that is the sound and it is limited to the rpm range - then indeed, clutch whine. I have a hunch (maybe others with Gen 2's who are reading this will take a listen to the vid and give us an opinion of whether they agree) that if yours is not as pronounced as my 1st Gen in the Video than yours is actually on the lower end of the "Whine Scale" of a lot of 2nd Gens. I have no idea if the "I" basket will rid your scoot of ALL of the whine - it seems like someone mentioned to me at one time that their 2nd Gen's original clutch whine was wayyyyyyyyy worse then Tweeks (the bike in the Vid) and that the "I" basket repair they had done brought the whine down to about her level.. I only point that out because, if that is true and if yours is already less verbal than Tweeks is than I would have to question whether its possible for an "I" basket repair to actually make things worse - make sense? We need to get some folks involved in this with more experience on these scoots than I have,, lets see if I can perk up some lop eared varmint ears that just popped into my pea brain for you.. @Squidley , @Freebird , , @Skydock , @GeorgeS , @Eck , @MiCarl , @dingy , @Venturous Randy, @Carbon_One , @Condor , @ragtop69gs , @Yammer Dan , @DragonRider , @bongobobny , @StarFan , @BigTom , @videoarizona and @allyouotherfolkswhoImissedcausemybrainwentblank = Stick around Chaq,, this could get interesting

Hey Chaq, take a close listen in this video, if you fast forward to :36 and then play till I shift gears at :46 you can get a little bit of an idea of clutch whine. Is that the kind of sound you are talking about? I have never owned a 2nd Gen but have been told that the "whine" is even a little more noticeable on them BUT, I have also been told that the rpm range when it happens is about the same on both - all my 1st Gens have had it, so does my V-Max, right up to about 3100 r's when it instantly goes silent - if you watch closely in the vid you can see that when I shift right around 2600 its starting to get pretty high pitched..

Those are bad to the bone!! I like the looks of the muff out,,, as much fun as your having doing this and as good as you are at it - might as well show em off GW!! Also, not only the soot on the chrome but you may also get more smelly exhaust up in the air of the cockpit with em hidden.. "Out" gets my vote..

And it would be a lot easier to get into those tight spots, like around spokes and stuff. Mostly have 4 sides ,, you guys got 3 sided fries in Canada Carl?