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Never really cared much for ick-spress ways anyway,, now when they start plugging up the backroads thru Sturgis leading out to the west coast THEN we got a problem IMHO.. On the other hand though,,, they probably would never plug those up or riot out there in the middle of nowhere cause aint much but cactus to burn down and cowboys with shooters and lots of vacant Indian burial grounds to fill.. Speaking of backwards thinking,, any one else notice that the Governor of SD has decided that the Rally is a go this year .. Guess she figures if the rioters are safe from the CCP Virus by rioting on hot pavement that attenders of the rally will be just as safe cause she knows Main St. Sturgis during the rally can get just as hot! Good nite I admire that women!!!! If any of you do decide to toss the fear of the virus that is being promoted by the left wing to the wind and head to Sturgis to celebrate U.S. freedom the open road still offers and find yourself on the ick-spress way blocked by rioters,, here is a spot you may be able to regain your composure: or here if ya need some upgraded shooters to clear em off the ick-spress way

There there,,, now that wasn't so difficult was it?

Why cant you and that lovely bride of yours just take that purdy HD out for a nice, long, CTFW ride and wear out those white walls and then just replace them with new black walls?? Seems like that would be more fun, less embarrassing when a fellow biker in the hood notices what you did and a lot less hassle then painting your tires:stirthepot: IMHO,, painting your tires instead of riding them out would be similar to mounting your bike on a dyno and running it for a couple days straight to increase the miles on it and then bragging you just put a bunch of miles on your bike Now aren't you glad you accepted that last 12 months of dues payments from me:stirthepot: Luv ya Puc

Dont know much but I do know that if you cant post pics cause your post loads are short,, I would just post a bunch of real quick short posts to get my post count up so I could post pics LOL.. Just write "Hi Patch" 20 times consecutively in this thread in separate posts and then post the pics.. Around here my kids always called this kind of simple solution "Cowboy Logic" and would smile at me as they sang this simple little tune to me = see vid song.. Also will remind you @JB601 ,, when trying to post those pics, you have to keep them below 1000x750 pixels or the site will not take them,, I use Paint to resize when needed.. Ye be warned. Concerning the MK1 questions,, knowing what little I know about them I would definitely be looking at the stator/rectifier closely.. My experience has been that low stator output and/or weak voltage reg will indeed cause issues as you describe.. Seeing your numbers of less then stellar stator output at the battery causes me pause.. In all honesty,, I like to see at least 14.5 vdc at the battery when the tach touches 2 grand and,, in past cases on my bikes where that is not obtainable but the stator is still showing some output to the battery it normally will result in strange idle issues and stuttering until some revs are reached and the charging system catches up.. Your dashboard volt meter should also be indicating this. That volt meter should pop right up to 14.5 volts when the tach crosses 2 grandish,,, no lagging,, no momentary lapses,, it should snap right to it.. I have never ever ever been impressed with the stators in these bikes,, to say they are weak is an understatement IMHO.. Hardwiring the stator wires on these is not considered a "hack" to me (probable cause I am considered a hack to many varmints - I will take a throw away MK1 with a blown 2nd gear and 30k miles on it and just short shift it out to 300k miles - its my MO,, I am a hack LOL) but is in fact one of the only answers to Mom Yams disgrace of a wire terminal in the stator harness that actually works long term.. You stating that your stator harness has been hardwired is a solid indicator to me that someone had made an attempt to solve a known issue and that there is a good chance that your stator has had at least one update done to it.. I have a hunch though that if you pulled your stator for an eyeball examination you would probably find the top coils of the stator in some form of burnt status.. If you do this and find what I am referring to please note that burned stator outer coils dont always showup in weak OHM testing of those coils.. What happens is as the laminate on those coils has gotten so poor that as the coils warm up they leak/lose resistance and your stator output drops.. This is not always detectable with an ohm meter.. Once your in there,, you really need to double check and make sure the bolt in the end of the crank has a wire sticking out of it and that the stator cover has a splash plate.. The 83's had some (NON RECALL) updates issued consisting of those items.. You can also test the regulator (you got a book? if not take a peek at the clubs shop manual to find the testing for the reg) but I gotta to tell you,, 90% of the time that I have experienced such failure as you describe it ends up being the stator = on the 83 MK1's.. If you pull the covers to access stator make sure you keep track of the screw placement back into the covers,, it is not uncommon for an unknowing mechanic to get a screw in the wrong place and end up going thru a case with a too long screw in the wrong place.. Just lay them out when you remove them so you know what goes where.. Punching thru the case can result in oil leaks.. Thats about all I know about this stuff @Patch,, hope it helps JB in some way! Puc

So with the wire tap into the headlight wire harness completely removed so there is no chance of an amp draw on the OEM headlight harness and still having a RLU fault happening,,, I would probably start with unplugging the headlight itself from the harness and checking the condition of that terminal.. I would look for not just corrosion at the blade connectors but for any sign of resistance inducing issue,,, like wires that have gotten hot.. I would also look carefully at the bulb itself like what kind of condition are the filments in,, matter of fact,, I would probably just replace the bulb to be sure it was fully up to par as the RLU's main purpose is to warn you that its seeing something wrong.. If all that checked out,, I would pull the connector of the RLU and look for corrosion there,, clean the pins real well.. In last case,, it is probably the RLU itself,,, it is not that uncommon for them to fail.. Over the course of 6 - MK1's covering +1 million miles I have personally had 2 of them fail on me and have heard of others failing.. It does happen.. I have been running and LED headlight in my current MK1 and am extremely happy with it.. As you have probably already read,, there are a bunch of the clubs lop eared varmints who have took the time to jumper out the RLU to replace the OEM headlight bulb with LED,, this is fairly common.. I only bring this up because if,, per chance, you find that your RLU has failed, it may be a good time to just do the jumpering and forget replacing it,, up to you of course.. Here is little video of mine I did for another member concerning the RLU that you may or may not find useful.. It shows location of the RLU on a MK1 which I would not be surprised to learn also applies to your MK2..

I am probably wayyyyy out in left center field on this as usual cause I am far from any form a guru on any of this stuff but that schematic looks to me like a layout for wiring a set of driving/passing/auxillary lights up.. It looks like you are tapping into one of the headlight 12vdc inputs to use as a relay trigger for a relay switch that will send power from the battery to the extra lights when the switch is thrown.. The RLU (reserved lighting unit), in my recollect (dont trust it, it has gotten me into a lot of trouble,,, but has also saved me and others a couple times so I still use it - with warning), would be located upstream of the headlight wiring shown (where the green wire taps in) and would not be applicable to this fairly simple, generic schematic probably supplied with the add on lighting system (not all bikes use an RLU - matter of fact,, in my very limited experience with bikes,, the Yamaha Venture is one of all the bikes I have ever worked on that even uses one).. I think if I were facing the issues that you @donens ,, I would begin with disconnecting the extra lighting from the headlight wiring and see if the warning light/dash light goes out.. My experience with the RLU is that if it detects any form of voltage or load change out there in the headlight wiring it will fault.. I got a hunch,, if the RLU is still operational, you will solve the question.. Of course, it is also 100% necessary that you maintain non-LED lighting in your headlight system - it also must remain OEM as LED lights pull to small of a load for the RLU to maintain a cleared status.. If, once the extra lights have been disconnected at the headlight wiring and you are using OEM spec incandesent lighting and the RLU still shows a warning/dash light then please come back and let us know.. Also,, if this does work, you will simply have to find another 12vdc source for the trigger coil in the relay being triggered by the switch.. Wiring the lead for the lights from the battery with a fused source is still correct.. Does any of this make sense?? Probably not,,, if not just hang around for a tad,, some lop eared guru varmint will come along and straighten us both out Puc

@VentureFar , a message to my dear sweet brother out on the west coast from your brother here in the midwest: Men will be men and little boys will be little boys.. Men will ride how they ride and little boys will paint what they paint (soooo precious:big-grin-emoticon:) because they are what they are and do what they do in just being themselves.. Neil, I LOVE that pic you sent me,, that is,, beyond words,,, INCREDIBLE!!! How I wish we could go back to such simple freedom and joy... Perhaps what I am saying will somehow let you know how deeply I can 100% relate my brother. IMHO, the "boys painting what they will paint" is directly connected to the riding with the wind in my hair and using stars for navigation which you speak. Yeahhhh,, there really is a lot to be said for the peace and quiet solitude that a ride can bring if we let it.. No buddy (not a typo) loves ya like I do my brother!! Puc

Surfrider ,, your dad sounds like he was my kind of people Surf. THANK YOU for sharing that with us!! In respect of and in response to your post,, I want to dedicate this old Trucker song that has stirred my heart since the early Trucker CB days back in the late 60's/early 70's to your Dad's memorial. I know it is not a hymn persay (of which I could easily relate to as your father did cause I love those old Gospel hymn's too) but it is definitely right up there with Merle's tune as far as telling it like it is... Hope it inspires and does not offend you or the precious memories you have of your Dad in any way:

Raggy,, just noticed this,, is this what you are talking about? https://www.ebay.com/itm/00-Yamaha-XVZ-1300-XVZ1300-Royal-Star-Venture-intercom-radio-control-switch/312267727801?hash=item48b49b63b9:g:xZkAAOSwT0pbxdLb

Stupid virus

Our friend Patch asked for this one to be played!!! Dedicated to Patch wayyyyyy up there in Kanuckian Land!! Here ya go brother,, Johnny Cash at his finest!!!

:sign yeah that: MY NEW MANTRA = "TRUTH MATTERS"!! Living here in the land of the free and living thru these recent attacks by globalist and socialist who have the intent of forcing our great republic (speaking of the U.S.A.) onto a sinking ship they call a better way of life, has taught me something - that being that they will stop at nothing to bring down and erase from existence any remaining knowledge of this great land of freedom = freedoms last chance.. With that said and totally believing the above to be the case,, anytime I set out to read an article that has the potential for being politically charged and/or have political motivation, I ALWAYS investigate where it came from, who is writing it and what type of organization backs it.. Having done so with this article, I discovered that it's basic foundation is born right out of Frisco, an area of the U.S. that is very well known for its extreme socialist, Anti-America stands and firm leanings to turn our country into a Socialistic society.. I also found that "Wired",, the Website which hosted the interview, is also of the same denomination of which I completely find repulsive from a political standpoint.. Being one to believe in fairness though and in a bold attempt to remain open minded concerning the article itself,,, I did actually read the complete interview.. While there were some interesting points made indeed that may hold some truths,, there were also some political swipes made against my country and her POTUS that I must take issue with. Lets start here: direct copy/paste from interview: Because we pulled out of the World Health Organization? We haven’t pulled out of the World Health Organization. [laughs] It’s not even clear how you pull out of the World Health Organization. Distancing ourselves is probably a better word. It just makes us look like clowns. WHO is stronger than ever. The rest of the world has rallied to its side. The Trump Administration was not in the meetings where WHO was raising $8 to $12 billion just to help plan for the vaccination program. America’s money has been replaced by other countries donating it. And with it will come the inevitable soft power that comes with funding. The readers of the interview were never told about WHY our President and his Admin chose to not attend the meetings.. In fair play and in helping those here in the club who did take the time to read the article understand why he made that choice for America, I now implore you to do the same with the video I post below and view it with an open mind.. In it, our President explains why he made that decision.. I believe that anyone who has read the article now owes it to themselves to also give our President a chance to explain.. I could attempt to explain it all but truly believe it best to hear this from the horses mouth:

,,, MAMA!!!!! Way to go Moped!! :thumbsup:

As a precursor to this wildly debated opinion that I have lived my motorcycling career by,, most untrained/self taught backyard mechanic/bike builders-restorers-olxd school riders (my self included) have referred to motorcycles with clutches and trannies that share the same oil with their engines crank/valve train have always been referred to as "Unit" constructed,, bikes that have seperate clutch/trannie oil baths from that of the crank/valve train have always been referred to as "Pre-Unit".. At a price in $$$'s, Synthetic Oils have always been promoted as lubes that easily double,, often triple and even x4 the distance in miles between oil changes while maintaining viscosity in the process of doing so.. My hybrid mini-motorhome (we sleep in our Hyundia Ioniq hybrid) was actually spected from Hyundai to use Quaker State 0-20 Full Syn which I have maintained since Trooper was brand new.. Trooper (what we named our mini-motorhome cause he looks like a miniature Michigan State Trooper squad car) is a Pre-Unit, actually a dry clutch DCT with trannie lubed by engine crank lube so not a true Pre-Unit but because the clutch is not sharing lube so the point I am about to make still applies, that always amazes me with how clean/full viscosity the oil is even when doing a 7500 mile CTFW's adventure and swapping oil at end of it.. I would only ever consider swapping in more expensive Full Syn oil into a Pre-Unit bike as, IMHO, the clutch fibers and other clutch contaminents in a Unit bike demand early and regular oil swaps compared to that of a Pre-Unit as the oil soils sooner. Combine that with any form of off-roading or dirty environment operation and/or riding in extreme high tempts and oil swaps can even be needed as early as 1500 miles.. Personally, I monitor my oil condition thru the sight glass (I still think the sight glass idea was actually born out of the need to SEE the oil condition and not so much as an easier way of checking level) for color and have always swapped when dirty.. 3k miles and toss in another round of cheap Walmart or Dollar Store dino 20/50 when riding tempts above 80 degrees has kept all my Unit bikes, including my MK1's very happy thru the years.. I am also one of the few lop eared varmints out there who also generally notice the difference in shifting smoothness and engine quiteness when making the swap too.. Matter of fact,, on my Unit bikes,, another way to know it's oil swap time is when shifting becomes notchy but,, I have often been told I am a tenderfoot wannabe when it comes to biking so consider the source in this advice.. Puc

INDEED!! 1st rule of thumb,, don't be shy - extend the hand cause you never ever know who you may meet!! Lots of great folks out there I tell ya and absolutely positively the best way to assure you don't miss even one of them is by being quick draw McGraw with the hand of howdy!! IMHO,, with this covid thing going on,, in these trying times it is even more important to remember what my brother VentureFar is preachin,, social distance if we must but don't let life rob you of the joys of knowing others. We still really do need each other, and now maybe more than ever.. @VentureFar,, as mentioned, you are indeed one blessed person to get to test all this stuff (and I know you know that and are thankful) but you are also a gifted person with abilities to not only know good stuff from bad stuff but also to know how to present your findings in an accurate truthful way but also fair.. I have ALWAYS appreciated this about your "style" of writing/reporting!!! What a treasure for us to have you here in our club!! THANK YOU for being you and for always being there for your readers!! Love you my brother!! Puc

My son-in-laws out in California are always giving me the business about Tip and I living in Michigan.. A few years ago they came to visit over Christmas time and @Flyinfool and his little WWW man (show em jeff) managed to send enough WW that the airports all shut down and those boys and my daughters had to rent cars and drive back to Sacramento. According to my daughter, one of those varmints,, the one who I am most competitive with (should of been there the day I out shot him with his own hand gun LOL), asked her on the way back to Sac "why would anyone ever want to live in such a place" :crackup:as he had never encountered such large amounts of WW.. Present day that same chap,, and his partner in crime - my other son in law,, have been really giving me the business in comparing our Govna to that of there own.. Razing me about now knowing how they feel since our Govna outlawed having fireworks displays over the 4th in the state of Michigan due to the virus.. I made this little vid just for them to show them that while ya,, we are in similar corners in that way BUT,, unlike them,, we Michiganders in our peaceful neighborhood (listen carefully in the background and you can hear my neighbors cheering) are not as accustomed to others making our decisions for us

Of course,, my mama didnt raise no WWW Fool who studied simple engineering,, I studied Business Law in College and learned there about statutes of limitations :rasberry:

See ya bunch of lop eared haven't joined the club yet varmints,, this is exactly what I was referring to in my post above.. Good friends who met in the VR club depending on each other... Joe gets to read and put up with my long essays and then rescues Tip/Tweeks and I when our trajectory was off a little down in Bama at another club Rally and also,, oh,, wait a minute,, I might be getting long winded for some again,, just watch this cartoon and you will get the jist of the point Jpe and I are trying to make..

My kids say I type just like I talk

Your findings 100% matched those of my own @zagger,, bar none, the best high mileage, mid range dollar tire stock size, high load bearing tires I found throughout the many many tire brands I tested thru the years (like you, I love to experiment and find out for my self what is and isnt truth) has been Metzler.. Thing is though,, I discovered something thru my own testing about them that I just could not live with for long distance, hot temp riding.. Here's what happened.. Back in 14, Tip and I decided to take the long way around out to the west coast to see the kids and do the "Dalles" rally in Oregon (I spell that right @Condor? LOL).. We decided to take the long way around,, zoom down to Big Bend NP in Texas, then up thru Roswell, then over to the South and North Rims of the Canyon, than northward to Glacier and up into Saskatuan Canada then down to Sacramento before we headed to the VR Rally where we would meet up with a great big rowdy bunch of west coast VR members.. We got part way across the great state of Texas,, went to pull off to hook up with now one of my Texas Hero VR member brothers who wanted to meet us before we camped with him in Oregon,, that would be @bikerjohn.. Went to pull off in Round Rock,, noticed the blinkers were acting slow,, leaned back and told Tip that I thought Tweeks had dropped a stator.. She had... John got there,, was wide eyed about my suggestion to just point me in the direction of an Auto Parts store so I could grab a car battery to run on and head to my kids in Cali where I would repair the stator.. John said,, hold on,, as he dialed his phone... Guy answered,, it was Squidly.. Squidly said NO WAY you aint going no farther,, head to my house, I'll leave the keys for ya and you/I can fix Tweeks here.. We did,, he did (should link this story over to Mama's thread about why we love our VR family).. In the middle of repairing Tweeks, Squid noticed the brand new Metz I had spooned on and balanced out (ran smooth like glass) just before we left and mentioned something a tad disconserting.. He said - Puc,, just an FYI,, Sweet Nothing and I almost died because of a rear Metz on our Venture,, he said the tire "chunked"/tossed some of its tread/delaminated and we lost it.. He said he would NEVER run Metz again especially after Metz refused to step up to the plate and honor their warranty claim of defective stuff.. I heard him,, made a mental note,, knowing Squids extreme love for maintenance and absolute carefullness in maintaining proper air pressures and the like,, I listened.. I watched the Metz carefully over the trip,, did great and as you mention,, the thing did AMAZING about mileage.. l normally would do one tire out and one tire in when going coast to coast with not much room for xtra travel. I had read the Metz was an exceptional high mileager so that was why I went there knowing we would be well beyond our normal range per tire by the time we headed home.. We arrived at the rally in The Dalles Oregon with just under 8k on the tire.. Still looked decent.. Sargent Coffey on his bike and Tip and I on Tweeks made the trip up into Northern Washington to CTFW around Mt St Helens,, went back to camp in Oregon.. Just before we all left, Coff and I went over the bikes carefully, checking air pressures and all that.. I actually pointed out the Metz and Tweeks to Coff and told him how impressed I was with it,, still had plenty of tread on it to easily make it back to Sacramento where my return tire off Ebay was waiting for me - a "Full Bore" (which I also ended up being majorly impressed with = $52 dollar tire made it 6500k miles.. We headed for Sacramento.. When arriving in a place called Roseville in California I noticed a strange vibration.. Stopped an checked and found delamination happening just as Squid had mentioned he and Lonna had experienced.. I noticed the seperation of the tread from the carcass in multiple areas,, it did have one small chunk missing at that time.. We rode side roads down to my daughters in Wilton and below is what was left of the Metz.. Could never trust em again.. Side note - the tire was a recent build less than 6 months old, I also take monitoring air pressures seriously because of the precious cargo I carry.. I checked the air pressure on the tire before I broke it down to replace it and it was spot on.. All IMHO of course but I thought best to let others know of my experience that matches that of Squids.. Puc

@sldunker,, Dunk,, sorry I missed this so late response.. Keep in mind this is another IMHO deals so consider the source .. I mistyped Horizontal when I meant vertical,, actually - trying to keep oil inside a horizontal filter while screwing it on would be a fools errand.. When ever I have a vertical mount oil filter that I am replacing I always fill the new one with fresh oil before remounting in an effort to mitigate any galling potential that may occur from momentary lube loss.. I never ever really cared for that momentary "oil light" on condition or "0" oil pressure noted on a gauge at an oil swap.. One of the reasons for this has to do with a discovery I made many many years ago while spinning wrenches at a Honda dealership. I was doing most of their small, kids bike, repairs.. I noticed an influx of cam issues coming in resulting in head/cam replacements.. Hondas later cure for what I,, and obviously others, were noticing was to place a small bolt directly above the spark plug area into the oil gallery of the head.. The instructions clearly written in the later year small bikes manuals were to, when changing oil or upon a tip over where an air pocket in the oil pump system could result to remove the small bolt and roll the engine over with the kick starter until oil began to drain from the oil hole so air in the system did not cause a momentary oil loss resulting in galling of betharing services.. Many many people did not read their owners manuals though (IMHO) as later in life, in my own dealership,, we continued to have an occasional galled bearing head/cam show up and when asked, the owners always responded with - "well thats stupid - I never heard of such a thing" in response to being asked if they knew about the oil change process.. I am also aware of and have seen pics of the new air cooled motors cam/lifter wear and,, going all the way back to the release/demo's of bikes at Sturgis I had inquired about the choice of using non-roller lifters in the new design.. I spoke with the factory guys at sturgis about this as I had noticed this in the cutaway engine they had on display.. Having been somewhat familiar with HD's discovery of protecting their engines from the issues that many SVTC/Eluder owners are facing concerning valve train issues via utilizing roller lifters where contacting the cam face, I asked the factory guys if the designers had found it unneccessary to use rollers on those surfaces and if they were providing oil system air release/priming bolts like Honda had done with those little bikes of yesteryear.. They looked at me like I was nuts (I get that a lot) and replied "with todays oils and modern machining methods, the non-roller lifters will do fine".. Seeing the result of this though makes me go right back to my experiences of the past and, if I were an owner of one of the new Ventures,, I would mitigate the probabilities of have an issue of the type I am speaking of simply by only putting my bikes engine thru a temporary/momentary oil pressure loss one time per oil change cause I know what can/will likely result from even the smallest smudging of a bearing area..

Who da thunk a tiny little nail hiding on the trail thru Chicago could end up causing so much VR MD fun Vaz?

Cause everyone needs more friends that you can count on, and they can count on you thru thick and thin.. Puc

I am talking hot tarmac, desert roads above 100 degrees ambient temps.. You know the type well I am sure,, the kind that leave the tire on the back of the saddlebags after going cross country,, all two up and fully loaded = 6000 miles on the Shinko's

rock solid vaz!!