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PS - LOVE THE PIC!!! I would have to duc tape it on my finger though cause I would probably miss it sitting way down there on the jack You da man Vaz!

Right there with my buddy Bongo - raise her up - get full extention on the tubes and check em closely for pitting!! Never owned or worked one Vaz so I dont get around in the 2nd Gen tech area much or,, maybe a more appropriate excuse = I gotta get out more = sorry I missed this earlier my friend.. Yep,, sure sounds like the ol leaky fork seal routine to me brother.. Like I said - never worked on a second gen so,,, pay no attention to the guy behind the curtain if this sounds wayyyyyyyy out there BUT = 1. If your scoot is manual fill on the fork air you might try pressing the shrader on the fork air and seeing if its built up pressure from those extreme Arizona temps. 2. Before you rip the forks apart you might try just taking a piece of 35 mm film and slipping it between the seal and the tube and then sliding it upward at an angle in an attempt to clean trapped dirt out from the seal edges.. I know they make a cheap little tool for this nowadays (bet you could find one at a MX Bike shop in your area) but I always used the old school, back yard 35mm film method and it works pretty dog gone good. 3. No idea if the 2nd Gens have rebound valving on the top of fork tube or if they have inverted forks under those guards - if they are standard forks like on our 1st Gens and ya gotta split em down to put in new seals,, it can probably all be done with the tubes left in the clamps (IMHO = makes it easier cause it sorta works like having the tubes in a vice if you know what I mean. 4. If you do have to split em - not a bad idea to drop in new bushings. 5. dont forget to double check your front brake pads for fork fluid contamination - if contaminated they are shot.. that a coyote came along when you were parked up there in those gorgeous AZ mountains and thought the front wheel of your scoot was a fire hydrant and your front forks are fine!!

NICE!!!!!!!!!

:scared:WOW ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ WOW ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ WOW WOW WOW RAGGY = AWESOME:dancefool::dancefool:!!! A real deal TRUE step back in time!! Heyyyyyy,, wait a minute here,, didnt you have a beard not to long ago and not just a ? You trade your beard for the outfit or you trying to run incogneato for a coming up border crossing while headed for that NY rally coming up GREAT FIND BROTHER!!

Seems how Riv is the type of lop eared varmint who dont mind a friendly between varmints (my kinda guy there Riv) = couple more thoughts.. Kind of wonder if good ol "what about BOB (battle of the bulge)" wouldn't show up on the display screen as an intermittent low oil pressure icon (that little oil can flickering at idle).. Also,, anyone ever take the time to plumb up an actual oil pressure gauge on one of these sweethearts? Seems like that would also give a clue if one of our scoots were hemoraging internally.. Fool - LOVE your thoughts brother = good stuff = know what I mean Vern:sign kewl:.. Thanks Riv for letting us

Never even knew they existed till a couple years ago while playing around at one of @OrlinEngh 's camp ride parties.. Not sure if it was his Colortune but Shrek n I played with one on Shrek's scoot.. Wayyyyy cool outfit!! Like mentioned - its best to use in a darker corner of garage so you can see the burn better and a little tricky to get your head just right to see the window down in the plug channel (little mirror would work great) but indeed - definitely a neat little tool for tuning!! Sort of an inexpensive way to do the work of a sniffer if ya know what I mean = get that pretty little blue flame happening, sync em down and let er rip!!

Lots of things going on in the back end of a scoot.. Could be dryness on the swingarm bushings, shock linkage, loose shock, rear brake caliper related, dry pins in the drive, shock wore out, bearing related or - even a stick/weeds stuck in there somewhere from doing a little two trackin .. I am with Black Wing = give er a good shake down and see what ya find.. I had a sticky brake on the back of Tweeksis, put her up on the center stand - cleaned the rear brake pistons = seems much better so far but - while I was cleaning em I put a little side pressure on her back end and heard a "swooshing" sound that sounded like a horse shooing away flies with its tail .. Investigation into the new noise showed that the red - white n blue party beads she has hanging on her rear rack were moving and rubbing on her rear rack ... You havent added any new bling on your scoot that may be causing a new noise have you Speed?

Excellent info Jeff:thumbsup:!! I can just hear the wrenches spinning in the garages of 1st Gen owners all across the world - let the oil pan pulling begin brothers and sisters

AWESOME x10000000 Riv = LOOKS GREAT and sounds like your on it like a hound chasing a lop eared rabbit varmint:Bunny: !!! Right there with ya 100% on a good honing and some new rings - nothing like a refresh! Ya know,, I too remember hearing about that bulging o-ring business years ago,, for some reason I thought it was more common in the early v-max's and due to the higher R's creating more oil pressure.. Guess I should have paid more attention in class ... Good on ya for opening Maxine's motor up and finding all the good stuff you have found Riv = look's like AZZI and RIV are gonna be able to cut the ride time in half when they head for a Hot Dog in Michigan from Arizona next year

Great idea Don - 100% with ya brother,, those having served or serving as LEO's, Firemen or EMT's deserve our recognition = A HUGE THANK'S TO EACH OF YOU:clap2::clap2:!! I really really like the tribute Icon that Doug put up but wonder how recognizable it will be when posted in the smaller form like you mentioned.. Wonder if having just the center circle for an Icon as it might be easier to view. Another thought, we could do badges or the center piece with the emblems for service in each branch and then use the one Doug posted or the Circular from its center if someone has served in each area (not that uncommon around here). I know,, as usual,, I am probably making it all way to complicated:big-grin-emoticon: GREAT THREAD IMHO!

Yep,, totally forgot about the fact that the test stand (Maxine the donor scoot) is all gone - that earlier response was a drive by response if there ever was one - thanks for catching that Fool.. Back to the subject at hand here.. I am with Jeff on measuring piston height - even a quick check with a set of Verniers at TDC could tell alot. IMHO, a lot of info could also be had from examining the oil that was in Maxine's motor Riv. How much water is in it? After pulling the oil and letting it drain good - pulling the pan and shining a pin light on the internals to see if rust has started forming is a good idea too.. Ya know,, the more I think about all this the more I am inclined to go with the idea of just holding a memorial service for Maxine, be thankful you only have 100 bucks in it so far (I know Riv - I TOTALLY respect the thought that 100 bucks is a fair chunk of change to just toss by the wayside BUT - figuring that if you do pull it down - put new bearings and on and on into only to discover you got a cracked block or a bad bearing in the tranny from rust accumulation somewhere or whatever - you see where I am going I am sure) and focus the attention on AZZI. AZZI has the advantage of having a proven motor to massage. Cost wise, both in time and $$ - seems like that would be the most economical.. I implore you not to be to discouraged by your recent findings Riv - basically its all just part of the world of Hot Rodding or playing with this stuff.. Sometimes it works, sometimes it dont - bottom line = you can't win em all,, ,, BUT YOU CAN TRY:big-grin-emoticon::thumbsup:

RATTSSSSSSS,,, sorry to see this Riv - like you I was for a little better image in there - I hate when that happens.. On the same token though - I have seen wayyyy worse.. I am gonna approach this from an experimental "working off a tight budget standpoint".. Run the piston's down to BDC, seal em off with a layer of cardboard with grease along the edges of the cardboard to protect the rings, beg - borrow or steal (ok,, dont steal - buy one if ya have to) a dingle berry hone and clean the jugs up, pull the inspection cover off the crank, spin it up off the crank with a drill motor while letting the cam chains roll thru your hands, check the ring surfaces for any apparent broken ring marks, stick the V-Max heads on it, put it back in the frame it came out of originally in total temporary test mode - start it up and see what it sounds, feels, smells and acts like - a total science experiment that may or may not work out..

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Looks kind of hit n miss on rebuild parts: http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemparts/a/yam/50042475f8700209bc787e27/crankshaft-piston Guess those many years of riding these good ol 1st Gens on Michigan Historic Plates has to have some hidden cost

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Thanks Or,, just walked out in the tent and didnt see it either... Wish you guys would have taken more of that junk,, I mean all those cool parts.. Would have made it a lot easier to look around!! Did notice those Kawasaki Voyager 2 parts still laying there - to bad we aint riding Kawi's,,, could make someone a great deal on some bag guards, left bag, floor board and brake pedal - free if they came and got em!!

Pretty nice one in the Michigan Auto Trader - thinking it has a little more load capacity - thinking the guy is asking 7 for it - sometimes I think to much I think:big-grin-emoticon: No idea if he got any bites on it cause I aint he - just thought I would pass on the info..

WOW ZZZZZZ WOW WOW WOW - found it Snyp!! Got some goodies on it that someone on here would probably appreciate - front bumper, chrome fender skirt, lit rotor covers - even has carbs and probably TCI and all that.. WHAT A DEAL!!! To bad its in Oregon (Eugene) You gonna try to chase it down? If not,, might not be a bad idea to link it up in our Craigs section:thumbsup: = someone is gonna go nuts and have a great deal!!

Hi Mike!! Long time know have seen!! Still riding that pretty scoot you had down in Goonerville ( @Barrycuda always corrected me when I said that ),, I mean Guntersville? WOW that was/is gorgeous!! Nice to hear from you brother!! PS - hope I got the right person Yea,, dont cha just LOVE huntin on the Adhuntr!!! Now I gotta go see if I can find the free Venture is

Ya know,, come to think of it,,, I also think I remember picking one up on the side of the road one time - wonder what happened to it - be right back, will go out into my 1st Gen parts pile and see if its laying out there... ,,,, @OrlinEngh and @Shrek were over not to long ago helping me clean up around here - wonder if either of those lop eared parts pickn varmints may have seen it out there - what say you Or? Shrek? Those guys are probably busy eating cheese (Wisconsinites do that a LOT) and crackers with there feet propped up by a camp fire - I will go dig around and see what I can find 40 - if I find it you can have it..

,,,, I got a pair of em 40.. Only problem is they came on my new scoot along with the Chrome rear bumper with lights and all that that - without the turn downs the exhaust shoots directly onto the bumper so I am thinking the guy who ends up with the bumper is probably gonna want the Tips too. All in VERY good shape.. Was just reading your post about some bad coils.. I also have a complete TCI/coil set up that I purchased years ago as a spare (this one has no plug wires and I have no idea whether its any good - it was suppose to be fully functional but it didnt come off one of my running parts bikes so not really sure on this one).. Thoughts?

Wowzy and MAJOR OUCH!! Sorry to read this but hopefully they caught it before any permanent nerve damage took place! Thoughts and Prayers Up for Chris and also for you brother (lots of xtra care needed there my friend)!

,,,,, thats a toughy,, over the course of 40+ years of doing the Rally and playing around in South Dakota I have noticed some subtle changes in that regard. One of things I noticed is that the every morning and evening "drag race" on the road way from the town of Sturgis out past Fort Mead and on to the Full Throttle Saloon and back again has been MAJORLY curtailed - you REALLY want to watch your speed along that route.. Another thing I have noticed is that a looking character with his wife or kid on the back of a stickered covered beat up ol Yamaha 1st Gen and a tent flappin in the wake can actually get away with quite a bit more than a 17 year old kid outrunning a pac of wild eyed Pan Head riders on his chopped 650 Yam:sign67: can.. Something else to consider,,, if your used to packin heat (even if your an out of state LEO or CCW holder) you might want to reconsider in SD during the Rally.. I was told by a very reliable source a number of years ago (long story but basically my daughter and rode beside an LEO in a small airplane for an hour or so - he landed on the prairie and pulled into the gas station with his "bird" as we were filling up our scoot) that during the Rally dates = NO PACKIN.. I also know they dont allow club "colors" - funny though,, I never removed my "Venturerider.org" club sticker that Squid put on Tweeks (and is now on Tweeksis) and caught no flak for that so I guess club "stickers" are ok

Just got the most recent Harbor Freight flyer in the mail,,, noticed they have FREE Multimeter's (with $5 purchase) - pretty handy little outfit for carrying in the Maintenance Dept. on your scoot! Probably wayyyyyy ahead of me on this 40 but dont forget to double check those slide diaphrams for pin holes and the like..

:rotfl: I think Vaz is skeerd someone would take a of an 84 MK1 strapped on the back of his 89 MK2 and post it on here with a caption that said ""well look at that Wilma,, Puc always said those MK1's were faster and that MK1 is actually trying to push that MK2 out of it's way:bikersmilie::7_6_2[1]:"" :dancefool: