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and by that time you and I will be drag racing our electric motored, battery powered walkers down the hall ways of some back yard grumpy old mens club and the big :stickpoke: of the day will be which is better tastin.... Life is grand!!!!:banana::banana::banana::banana:

A number of years ago a really close friend of mine who also was Chief of Police in an outside area came here to testify on behalf of another loved one who had found himself in a severe legal situation.. I got a little rattled during a deposition in that case at the lack of concern for truth and honesty in the investigation.. THANKFULLY My Chief of Police friend, who was VERY knowledgeable of how the system functions, took me aside and reminded me that the modern system is concerned very little with truth or honesty but is all about "winner take all" (his words - not mine).. A point I have NEVER forgotten and the very foundation for why I am very very careful about if/when I pack.. At the end of that crisis after being found innocent but broke, the person who was being investigated found himself in front of the judge inquiring into the legal basis for the "customary and normal" charges his attorneys had charged his estate.. It seems that some of those charges averaged well over $1000 an hour.. He found no reprieve for the fee's and costs that had been levied but told me later that when the Judge asked him what he thought a reasonable hourly attorney fee should be and he responded with $100 an hour,, the Judge responded with any ""attorney that would work for less than $500 an hour is an attorney you would not want defending you" and that "customary and reasonable fee's begin there". Prayers Up brother!!

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: Now THATS what I am talking about!! Very very well put there Riv!! THANK YOU for the feedback!! By the way,, I LOVE FiFi and can see why you couldnt pass er up brother!! She's got that look of "feed me some open road - I'm hungry" written all over her purdy face!!

Your N. Muskegon varmint buddy who DEFINITELY,, even if he knew who Pete was and NO WAY on God's green earth would of spent 30 large on 2 wheels with a motor any way has done turned sissy MiRider.. Been watching the weather since we chatted about said 's and,,, just couldnt do it... Dont count me out yet though ya lop eared Harley named Candy riding good hearted buddy varmint friend of mine!! Got some other late fall MGnEM idea's in the makings!! For the love of Pete (sorry Randy = couldnt resist:happy34:) DO NOT winterize that purdy TriGlide yet MiRider!!

I still cant help but think it all boils back down to major change in who/what we are as a people.. I think somehow, the pros and cons of the digital/computer/information age may also be at play here and not just thru robotics in manufactering (all though - that has had a huge effect for need for laborers) but even more so on what a satisfying lifetime now consists of.. Back when I was a kid I was so broke I couldnt pay attention but, because of my love for motorcycles I spent every dime I could muster on any form of two wheels with a motor I could afford (picking blue berries, paper route,, playing poker ). When I turned 16 I woke my mom up at 7 a.m. and said "get up!! I HAVE to get my license!! and my best buddy (had a license) rode my Honda 350 down to the DMV so I could get my Cycle Endorsement on the same day.. Folks = to me = ALL of that was done as an act of getting to FINALLY find out how freedom feels = it was a MUST DO!! Thing is,, at that point in our local area's era,, LIFE was just like that everywhere - again,, IMHO.. Fast forward to the present day and age = human beings (teenagers and millenials are human beings too ya know) no longer seem to find the fulfillment needs for their search for finding out how freedom feels in that same way.. Times have changed.. Many folks find happiness in life by racing motorcross, fishing, hunting, ice skating, ski diving, swimming, playing tennis, robbing banks, stealing cars and on and on and on DIGITALLY!! I personally think this and this alone has had a HUGE impact on our sport.. Also,,, do to this AND because of the inherent dangers associated with even attempting to walk across a roadway = many of those same human beings simply have no use for even a drivers license.. Back in my early days,, if a young person didnt want a drivers license their parents would probably have taken them to an ER to find out what was wrong with em.. As usual,, I am probably way out there and shallow minded with all this ,,, but I still think that we are experiencing an actual change in the paradigm of what constitutes the fulfillment of the pursuit of happiness...

Finally (at least for this little opportunity to yak with one of my lop eared long distance touring varmint buddies) I gotta ask,, who is "Pete" ?

Hmmmmm,,, as long as you and Molly are talking a variety of flavors here,,, thinkin out loud,,,, perhaps any kind of yeller snow would not be good form,,,,,, I am thinking the Chocolate Chip idea would better serve the general public who have been trained to not eat yeller snow..... On another note and springing off that tiny lettered comment you tried to hide from us ,,,, those Chips would probably serve as a better nozzle plug too... Giving my good buddy FlyinFool x2 the chance at increasing his good buddy count!!! Gotta remember Jeff = this is a motorcycling family and most motorcycling family members are pretty shy about riding their scoots on white wash,, even if it has a special flavor:guitarist 2::rasberry:

Looks great,, if it works (and I have no doubt it will) = for us folks living in the rain belts,, maybe fill a small spray bottle with this and use it for regular windshield cleaning.. Let us know what you discover will ya Vaz!! Thanks

Really look forward to a ride report if you do go demo one... Thing looks amazing to me too.. One of the main issues I would have is the potential for having to depend on a dealer for repair stuff and,, from what I have been told about BMW,, $$$$'s associated with that (both parts and labor) = NEVER owned one,, only saying that out of hear say.. I think @VanRiver has a Beemer now - what do you know about that Riv? Wanna a little brother? I had a neighbor offer me a really really nice Wing recently for a super price - his wife has major health issues and they are done biking. We kicked it around and came to the conclusion that I/we probably dont have enough CTFW time left in life to start the learning curve on a new scoot and a whole new brand.. I think the memory stick sitting on my shoulders is 80% 1st Gen data - be a sad day to have an issue up in those mountains of Utah and have no idea how to even begin taking the plastic off one of those things, then have to haul it 2 states to a dealership that is gonna charge me 400 bucks an hour cause the issue was something not covered by a warranty...

I use RainX sometimes on my old windshield but its usually long gone by the time the rain hits from me cleaning my windshield at gas stations LOL.. I know its not good for the plastic but I regularly clean my windshield with PlastX and any way so it dont matter.. Pledge spray on furniture polish works awesome too but I am usually to lazy to go inside and steal the stuff from Tippy.. I keep my sunglasses wrapped in one of those micro fiber windshield rags (cheap at Menards). When I clean bugs off my windshield,, or if I am riding my R1 with my full face flip down shield I do the same, I like to wet the shield - rub in circles with my finger tips to loosen bugs (NEVER use paper towels in those gas station stands = will scratch em bad) - grab my micro fiber and clean it off.. Its amazing how even this helps a LOT with rain run off...

AWESOME!!!!!!! Hopefully Ready had one of his family sneak out back and stuff some Custard in those infamous nozzles.. At least add some flavoring this year.. Heyyyyy,, wait a second,,, :think:,,,, somethings missin here.. ,, GOOD ON YA AIR READY FAMILY!!!

Jack Rabbits wizzin across the road out in Nevada just before dark this summer .. Hides same color as pavement and hard to see - all of sudden WHAMO!!!!

One of the things I LOVED doing while out CTFW on the far Canadian east coast was hunting for Tidal Bores (no Americans,, NOT the same as Snipe Hunting).. The young ones may find it boring but the adults would probably enjoy it.. Also, exploring the tides of the Bay of Fundy and clam digging is a ball.. There use to be a free Marine Life exibit thing also somewhere along the Bay of Fundy in Nova Scotia that was awesome - sort of like a tiny version of the Monterey Bay Aquarium out on our west coast. Farther east right on the coast is a freebie Zoo like thing full of animals that ate all the apples I had on my bike and even further east and up farther is an area with,, surprisingly warm - almost bath like temps - water and great swimming,, still puzzles me why that water up there was so warm.. Lots of awesome roads or CTFW out there but those are the only things I can think of that besides just riding.. Wish they was coming this way,, would LOVE to say howdy to your daughters and spoil your grandkids up some for ya Carl!!

... pulling from and quoting a saying I vaguely remember from my childhood,,,,,, "arent cha glad cows dont fly":witch_brew:

or Mom Yam,, put in another way,,,

Alright,, just thinking this threw in case someone else has an issue like this and needs to travel to a spot where they can repair their scoot.. I have had to run my bike(s) to safety/repair under similar circumstances off battery only on several occasions.. Disconnect everything, including lights and stuff - buy a battery charger (and even a car battery strapped to its side for long range) and head for home.. Not a biggy.. That said.. If a situation happened like you mention Joe,, you think the best way to handle it,, to ride out to safety and protect your stator in the process,, would a person unplug the stator wires and disconnect the faulty regulator so the battery could not discharge thru it.. Then ride out under battery power? Maybe even disconnect the fuel pump = run a full tank of gas so your gravity feeding only? Ya think spinning that alternator without the wires hooked up and no place for the voltage to discharge would be hard on those coils?? Hmmm,, I think I would assume not.. I think I would go ahead and disconnect it - its not like those windings are electronic - they are still just coils... Anyone follow my train of thought here?? Joe?

:rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry::rasberry: and NO you great big Kanuckian lop eared sidewinder jealous cause President Trump aint your President too varmint - NO trade backs on the Dispatch Rider shirt :banana::banana::banana::banana: = NAHHH NAHHH DEEEEEE BOOO BOOOO!! P.S. - come to Michigan for a Hot Dog will ya?? I wanna test ride that purdy Honda you been goofin around on!!

I have been told since I was a nothin but a lil Pucker that I had a very very vivid and active imagination but,, ya know,, I just cant pull that into my imagination no matter how hard a try!! :stickpoke:

Indeed that does sound like a Regulator issue. Agree with Don,, do a voltage test at the battery with the bike running,, it should show 12 to 13 volts at idle and then jump to 14.5 volts max with throttle.. Higher, unregulated voltage will fry a battery.. Be careful in there with a fuming battery - a spark can cause a boom... I would also double check my connections at the battery - make sure I didnt somehow forget to hook up a ground wire or get something crossed up on hook up of the new batt.. Did you replace the old battery because it was shot - was it kaput because it had been fried? Possibly an ongoing issue not addressed?? I have zero experience with the 2nd Gens but seem to remember reading of regulator issues,, maybe,, maybe not.. May do a quick search.. Seems like I read that the regulator on them is mounted right behind the front wheel.. If so,, is it possible that that area is exposed to a LOT of moisture/mud/rocks whatever and that it might not be a bad idea to look closely there at any terminal connections - maybe you have a bad connection on a ground wire in a terminal causing regulator issues?? The mounting position of the stator wire terminal on the frame of the 1st Gens has been VERY problematic for me thru the years - to the point of not trusting it at all and hard wiring that terminal is manditory for me - I really dont enjoy issues like your experiencing.. Dirt = resistance and resistance = real problems when dealing with that stuff.. Hope ya get it figured out and this helps somehow.. Puc

A little more follow up on this thread.. Take a read on this one: http://theforneypost.com/index.php/government/1466-indian-motorcycle-franchise-will-not-open-in-forney-after-all,,, it seems Polaris's lack of sales in their Victory line and their ultimately closing of that line caused a 2 1/2 year planned Polaris Indian dealership investment to be shut down.. I still cannot help but think there might actually be something to the slowing down of the industry/market.. It does seem like there are more and more less actual "touring" of scoots going on out there IMHO,, and,, our local Rally's - similar to the Sturgis Rally the last few years dont seem to have the attendance they used to have.. On a different note,, it also seems like more and more people around West Michigan are using high end "touring bikes" (LOTs of HD's = still never see any Polaris's - seems like their screw up at the beginning with the Victory trannies and our local Polaris Dealership kicking Polaris out because of it has had lasting affect) being used as "bar hoppers".. Definitely an interesting topic if one is into CTFW Jack!!

Correcto mongo Fool!! Kind of puzzling too cause even with just the watercooled exhaust valve they gotta have radiators, water pump, over flow res and plumbing.. May as well just went ahead and cooled the thing.. Was yakkin with one of the factory guys recently about it and said that to him - he made it absolutely clear that the next step - of cooling the entire heads - was already planned and would be very easily accomplished.. He also reminded me that the traditionalist in their world are kind of sensitive about this stuff and the Motor Company has to take baby steps as they move forward with water cooling = his words not mine..

OUTSTANDING Tom!!! Glad to hear all went well!! ,,, ,,,,,, been meaning to ask you Canuckians something,,, can you folks buy 's up yonder?? Reason I ask,,, I was trying to follow along with some of your countrymen about another recent rally some of them went to in New York and noticed that even after asking about 's - they either didnt want to or couldnt produce any pics.. Just wondered if there is a shortage of camera's up there or something... :witch_brew:

Thanks Mike but I really cant take any credit for it.. In all fairness and honesty, that quote of "" the rumble, heat, and heft of an enormous V-twin is a necessary part of the road-trip experience."" was actually something I copy/pasted from an actual article about the top 5 long distance touring scoots that was put to print back in March.. Giving credit where credit is due, that article can be found here in its entirety: https://rideapart.com/articles/the-5-best-touring-motorcycles-bike-for-doing-distance Seeing "heat" from an air cooled V-Twin listed as a huge plus by the modern day touring riders (of which Mom Yam clearly was in touch with on the design for our new Venture) for the modern day long 2 up long distance scoot still seems somewhat disconcerting to my touring wanna be way of thinking but,, heyyy,, at least I now feel enlightened!! Thanks for the on the post brother!! Appreciated!!

OUTSTANDING!! Only this time Mom Yam is gonna have to bring it to my house in Michigan to prove she aint pulling no more jokes or playing no more game with all this.. Gotta remember Mom Yam,, the ol Pucster gots a new tuner on his pump now and cant handle practical jokes like he used to = that last one even made my tuner skip a beat or two.. So,, all that said,, this time,, instead of Tip, Tweeks and I heading for the East Coast for the unveiling and then later to the Sturgis Rally to see the V-Max motored Venture as outlined in post #9 found in this thread: http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?102280-Let-the-discussion-begin because you really did listen to us Yamaha Venture riders like you said you did,,,,,,, you will need to bring it to my home in Michigan to prove you were only kidding by introducing the new air cooled V-Twin belt/pulley driven Star Stratoliner Tourer (NICE Strat by the way) as a Venture... Tell ya what,, just to show no hard feelings about the whole misunderstanding,, I will leave the outside lights on for you and Tip will have fresh cookies baked for ya to munch on while we are outside demoing the scoot.. If its to our liking (probably gonna wanna stick er on the dyno and make sure those specs that Casey produced are rear wheel specs = thats very important = IMHO,, "turning the touring world upside down" means all the other touring bikes out there (like that new Beemer) will only be viewable in the mirrors and THAT only momentarily = kind of like these 1st Gen Ventures have done to all those V-Twins all those years..