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Thats good,,, thats really good Silv:happy65:!!!! I really wish I could find somehow to disagree with me too but I cant cause I cant undue the truth about what I discovered

Actually I honestly believe that burn area and the heat it produces is not a flaw or even a mistake - it was actually a much sought out and designed for feature of the new Venture. To understand some of what I am referring to it might be beneficial to read the report I wrote months ago about finding the answers as to why Mom Yam would do what we are talking about. The thread involving this report can be found here in its entirety: http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?132205-TheREAL-scoop-on-the-new-Venture-is-FINALLY-starting-to-shine-thru-2-me-FINALLY!!!&highlight=v-twin+riders+heat The article that I quote from in the thread is found here and the quote can be found by scrolling down to the report on the V-Twin tourer - all found here: https://rideapart.com/articles/the-5-best-touring-motorcycles-bike-for-doing-distance and for those who really dont care to read much about this stuff but may be curious about the gist of what I am talking about,, here is the short version of what's in that thread and the quoted article: """Most folks that know me know I am a pretty thick skulled lop eared varmint.. As a matter of fact, so thick skulled that even my methods of CTFW are about as ancient as they come = I still trust my own backyard mechanic abilities and work on my own bikes, swap my own tires and even actually prefer to sleep out under the stars instead of Moteling it. I am a block headed purist with a deep belief in function over form = I really truly do prefer my steeds to be as basic as possible (I am known to remove "bling" if it is likely to get in the way of ease of maintenance while out scouting the back roads of American on a beat up old scoot - talk about being a bone head.. Anyway,, I was just reading another Magazine article titled ""The 5 Best Touring Motorcycles: Bikes For Doing Distance"" While reading this article I ran across the 2nd machine on their list (right behind the Beemer GTL1600) = the Polaris Indian Road Master.. Tip and I had parked Tweeks, our lowly 1983 MK1, 1st Gen Venture that is covered with stickers that Tweeks has earned by hauling us and our camping gear on her back to all the places represented by those stickers, long enough to actually demo one of these 2nd place modern touring bikes.. I remember vividly telling Tip after the demo ride that I thought the Roadmaster was somewhat hotter (I truly had no way of knowing at that time, like I do now, that its ability to burn its riders was actually a desired characteristic so I spoke of it as a negative thing) in its ability to burn us then the Harley Davidson Ultra that belonged to friend who allowed us to ride his 2012 Ultra any time we wanted. I also remember mentioning to her, right after recently riding the new Star Venture (the article doesn't mention the new Star Venture - the article was written in March of '17 and the new Venture had not been released yet - perhaps the new Venny would have taken the place of the Beemer and sat in the #1 spot on the list as the Venture is also an enormous V-Twin with the much desired and necessary heat associated with the new touring bikes) that I had placed the new Venture right in between the Indians extreme heat and that of the lesser hot to the legs Harley. As I considered all this and continued reading, something jumped out at me like a spook in a cemetery when I read the first line of why/how the Indian was chosen for this honor - I read: "" the rumble, heat, and heft of an enormous V-twin is a necessary part of the road-trip experience."" Reading this is when it all began to FINALLY makes sense!! In other words = I FINALLY figured it out = how could I have missed something so simple!! Let me explain - but before I do,, do yourself a favor and reread that line above and see if something jumps out at you too: "" the rumble, heat, and heft of an enormous V-twin is a necessary part of the road-trip experience."" Not happening??? Read on and see if this helps: A number of years ago when I was in High School and just a young Puc, us future touring bike rider teens used to play a game where we would wrap a friends dollar bill around our wrist, take a lit cigarette and then attempt to burn a hole thru the bill without raising it off our wrist = burn a hole thru the bill and into your arm = keep the dollar bill and earn a burn.. Sounds painful and, as memory serves me,, it actually was VERY painful BUT - the pride that came with having a great big ugly nasty infected cigarette burn hole in ones arm during those priceless days was unbelievable - this pride was so powerful that,, if you had a "burn" (which most of us did) you were instantly accepted into the formidable and hugely desired group that I hung out with at that time,, no burn = not a real member of the team = a wanna be at best.. Fast forward to the current day and age of Tip and I spending some of our time out CTFW on an old motorcycle... Having long since forgotten about those days of yesteryear where real men (and ladies) wore scars to prove their worth,, neither Tip nor I totally understood the actual importance of what we discovered in the last couple years of demoing the newest, most technically advanced touring motorcycles in the history of the world, like the new Venture - that being the issue of "heat" and how it applies to modern day touring scoots and those that ride them.. See,, the little 74 inch water cooled motored Yamaha Venture motorbikes that I/we have logged over a measly little million miles on have all been covered in plastic in an effort to keep the scar giving heat off my precious kids and endlessly gorgeous wifes legs and feet... To make matters worse,,, my wife - TIP (stands for Treasure In Person - she has earned that biker name and grins every time someone uses it cause she KNOWS I meant it when I gave it to her) - has actually shown just how much of a sissy she really is when compared to all those other masses and masses of real deal touring bike passengers out there riding 900 mile/16 hour days in the passenger seat while scaring their legs and feet and enjoying every minute of doing so! Blunt honesty? Tip has actually even complained a couple of times of heat from our water cooled - plastic covered - tiny motored V-4 Yamaha sneaking out from under Tweeks plastic side covers during heavy crosswinds in obscure places (obscure to us,, I am sure that real touring riders and their passengers who seek out "the burn" and scars from the heatthey paid so greatly for, ride these places during the heat of the summer by the droves just to get the need for those scars fulfilled) like Wyoming, Arizona, Nevada, Montana and Utah.. And then, to make matters worse,, instead of explaining to her that real touring ridersactually do seek out the scars and memories associated with that heat rolling off their enormous historically modern air cooled V-Twins (sorry Tip,, I truly had forgotten how necessary that heat and those scars are), I actually added an extra set of foot pegs on the crash bars that protect the saddle bags on Tweeks sides so Tip could move her feet up and out of the hot air flow to keep them from getting burned giving us the ability to continue riding in high cross winds in 110 degree tempts and even crawl out of other situations like being stuck in traffic for 4 hours in California. Quite frankly my sweet love - it appears we cheated and I cheated you out of the opportunity to have earned those scars = I hope you will forgive me.. I have been enlightened = I truly have.. And I am thankful for this enlightenment.. My bone headedness is still giving me problems though.. My children, of which I have 4 and which all four have also crossed this country from one end to the other in the passenger seat of one of these under powered, lack of scar giving heat old water cooled, plastic covered, shaft driven cheater bikes have also been cheated of their rightful scar tissue from earning the burn.. I now cant help but wonder if I should reclaim the biker names I have given them until they are willing to lay their legs against the rear ward jug or exposed exhaust pipe on one of these history making modern air cooled V-Twins and take their rightful place by doing that which has been deemed necessary?? Or,, at a minimum,, be willing to wrap a dollar bill around their wrists and see if they can find someone who smokes so they can earn the burn that way......... It's not easy being a Puc I tell ya....""""

This is what I would do with it if it were mine and I lived where you live: I would not ask for or seek out a building permit. I would have peace in my heart that it is in fact an existing temporary structure and I had no intent in increasing its size.. I would not inquire about a building permit.. It's probably just me but I wouldn't stir the pot by looking for a building permit.. I would leave the plastic covering already on it in place. I would then recover the entire building with that blue tarpage from Harbor Freight one section at a time and make sure that I pulled the tarpage as tight as I could using zip ties around the current galvanized tubing to hold the tarpage in place. I would then snap chalk lines and run 1x4 purlins horizonally full length of the building laid out on center to support both ridge venting and vinyl siding. I would purchase a good matching earth tone color of vinyl siding to the color of my home and I would make sure when I purchased the siding that I got it all out of the same factory "run" (noted by the run numbers on the side of the boxes) so my temporary structure didnt look like a checker board when I got it done. I would run vertical 1x3's down the outside tubing pieces to run my "J" track down so my outer edges had a good finish look and the wind could not get under the edge of the siding and thereby ending up with my siding in the pond monster pond after a windy day. I would use screws and washers to attach my siding as I worked it up the purlin frame work so they could not back out but I would also make sure that I left the screws slightly loose so the siding could move and wouldn't bunch up when the sun got on it. I would make sure that my siding edge joint overlaps faced in the direction so the overlapped outer edge had typical directional breezes (usually from the west here in Michigan) blowing over the outside edge of the over lap.. If this was not an issue I would put the overlaps so they faced away from the front of the building giving the look of one continuious run of siding (basically hiding the joints). In the end I would end up with the original plastic covering on the inside under the new tarpage which would be captured permanently under the siding - the combination of the two adding flexable support to the siding.. If it appeared that this was not going to be quite enough support because of possible snow load I would add additional horizonal 1x3 purlins (or ripped plywood) on center under the middle of each siding section BUT - if that puppy has withstood the test of time with only the plastic on it in the first place,,, I highly doubt this would be necessary. I know this is not perfect but it will probably give you an idea of what I would do if that great big beautiful temporary structure were in my back yard.. There is not way on Gods green earth I would tear it down.. I have seen the building we are talking about (the out house was occupied I had to go pee pee so I,, never mind - to much info - just trust me - I know exactly the structure you are talking about.. I would absolutely in no way even think about taking it down for resizing - if I did I KNOW I would be running a high risk of legally not being able to put it back up without following "code" (and not the same "code" as we follow here at the club house)... The end,,, or,, the beginning

,, I think you misread Gary!! It was I who was likely headed to the Penalty Box for causing mischief in an effort to coerce a picture or two from my brother to go along with his outstanding report!! I do think it was worth the try though cause one never knows!!!!!! Still a downright GREAT read Gary!! THANK YOU!!

I responded to his shock at seeing a geezers grey bearded mug pop out from under my full faced helmet with: I know,,, dont make a lot of sense does it? To which he replied with a: "when I saw my radar unit instantly jump to 68 mph I was totally and completely convinced that some young guy was up to no good - I am speechless - this is unreal".. I told him I was truly sorry for the 68 in a 35 and that what ever his radar unit said I would believe it and I had no reason to doubt its accuracy.. He, still in shock,, interrupted me and, with the purest form of sincerity = asked "why"?? I asked him if he had ever seen the movie "Secondhand Lions".. To my surprise he shook his head yes and stared at me with total interest.. I then told him how Maggie had come to be mine and how, after a whole lifetime of wanting to own one of the worlds fastest production bikes but having a family to worry about and never being willing to accept the risk associated with riding such a creature until now = well,,,, I did it - I bought one so I could cross it off the bucket list... He nodded his head in an understanding way,,, he asked if I still had a Drivers License:confused24:. As I was handing it to him he asked if I had a current Cycle Endorsement too:happy34:.. I openly told him that if any one should have known better than to "blip" the throttle in 1st gear on an R1 up there on that hill top it should of been me cause indeed,, my Cycle Endorsement dated back to the 60's and I had fired enough shots thru the years that I did know better... He took my license in his hand, looked at it,, looked at Maggie and then back at me and smiled.. He said,, I am a biker too and I love riding!! He said - I truthfully could never see myself riding one of those things but,, I get it:bighug:. He said: those things are STUPID fast and stupid fast so fast that a guy could get hurt really really bad on one and in the process injure an innocent bystander if he went over backwards or something... Please do us both a favor and try to keep it down when in area's where people are gathered no matter what (and he looked over at the Harley with my buddy sitting on it) others are trying to intimidate you into doing (chuckling as he said that).. He then walked back to his Cruiser, started it up and drove off..

:scared: when I first looked at that 2nd pic I thought = hokey spamokey,, some kid on Yamaha Enduro lost it while out desert riding and thats all that remains!!!! Didnt notice the birds neck at first TOTALLY awesome pics David - THANK YOU for sharing - LOVE IT!!! BEAUTIFULLL!!

Continuing in Prayers Up for your little brother DanL'!!!!!

I used to be actively involved in both MotoCross, Hare Scrambling and the like. Back then it was not uncommon to go thru a rear tire per weekend.. One of my supporting dealerships at the time held an annual winter time event that involved some snow riding and the like but also a "riders appreciation" festivity = tons of fun!! This was held during the winter months and right at the time that the dealerships were inventorying up for the coming season.. It was a normal and natural sequence of events for them to all but give away all left over tires to those of us they sponsored during the year.. My favorite tires during last years of those days were the Dunlop "752"s.. I was always amazed at how even 1 year of time could make such a difference in the rubber hardness of those new, but older tires.. I always said that tires reminded me alot of bread = day old bread gets hard and crumbly.. My KX500 could easily tell the difference between fresh and day old tires.. It would actually toss knobs off while air born and clearing jumps by blurping the throttle to raise the front end where new, more pliable tires would stay together with no problem.. In later years here it is not uncommon for us to go thru numerous rear tires during a season on Tweeksis.. I do most of my purchasing online (even have them shipped to me while out CTFW and swap em out on the ride) and always price shop.. Generally speaking I end up with tires that are a year or so old and,, as days past,, those tires tend to be less pliable than I know they would be if I paid top dollar to insure I was get fresh bread.. Lay em in the desert sun while I remove the wheel from the bike and the heat will soften em up to help with the install so having them lose some resilence is not an issue there and I know within a few days I will be swapping em out again so dry rotting from time is no issue in my case... Fact is,, I have had very good results running older, NOS tires with very little issue.. That said,,, if I had paid full price for those tires and they are 3 years old,,, I think I would contact the seller and let them know it wasnt gonna work and give them the option of return or adjust the price accordingly.. I would say 1/3 to 1/2 off would be fair.. If you price searched and bought at a reduced rate then,, yea,, ya done found my favorite day old bread store!!! RUN EM!! Puc

I did my part by placing my comment in the comment section of one of these video's (read below)- now it's YOUR turn!!! and I wrote: My history pretty much echo's that of the writer of this post - I owned and operated a Dealership for years and gotta say - it was the best of times (sooo much fun!!) and , when the crash came - the saddest of times.. I am retired now but still actively involved in our sport with lots of YouTube activity of my own documenting for fun, our geezer time travels and avidly encouraging geezers like myself to learn to ride as shown in one of my video's like this: Personally I think there are LOTS of things that can be done to help bring our industry back around to a sustainable level.. I have 4 children that were raised as employees of our bike shop (family business = child labor laws didnt apply LOL). Having raised 4 millennials and having interaction with them and their friends to this day has given me some insight on how they think and that insight is part of the basis for my advice for attempting to help our industry with what follows..First of all, millennials seem to be less likely to just buy into something because someone says it is so - they are amazingly intuitive.. They tend to be critical thinkers - at least thats my experience in dealing with them.. Dishonesty, lack of transparency and poor business ethics are something that most millennials will not tolerate and will run when they smell it happening - they really do not like fake.. It is interesting that the head of "Give a Shift" is none other than the ex p.r. guy for Polaris. Because of our business and because of my passion for our industry, my kids were directly effected by Polaris Industries when with their Victory motorcycles, during the beginning years, Polaris chose to turn their backs on their warranty's of those early bikes and dealerships were stuck with the choice of either turning their backs on early buyers with tranny problems or eating the costs internally in an attempt to support consumer confidence/the industry.. Those were ROUGH days!! In the later Victory models - Polaris's name totally disappeared from the emblems on the side of the bikes in an obvious effort to hide the fact that Polaris was the manufacturer. Recently, Polaris stuck its franchised dealerships again by handling the closing of their Victory line in a less then stellar method of common ethical business practice. They are currently promoting the erroneous idea that "Indian Motorcycle Company" is once again producing Indian's while these bikes are actually a Polaris Motorcycle with an "Indian" emblem on its tank = there is no such thing as I.M.C - it does not exist... Polaris's continual P.R. work in this method of less than truthful marketing has now had the outcome showing up with present Polaris Indian motorcycle riders today being offended if, when talking to them about their bike, you happen to refer to their bike as a Polaris Motorcycle (once a name to be proud of). This is really sad, especially during a time when companies should be building their names and consumer confidence in them. Another point of interest is that Polaris chooses to claim great gains in their competition with HD (and we ALL know that our industry NEEDS competition) but they refuse to disclose factual unit sale numbers to support their claims.. Instead they like to follow the rules of secrecy instead of open, honest, clear transparency that assists in building consumer confidence.. Please know that I am NOT just picking on Polaris (loss of business ethics is something that ALL companies should be concerned with). I only bring this up because of the link to Polaris that "Give It Shift" obviously has and, hopefully,, possibly, maybe these words will somehow have a positive effect on correcting the slump thru returning to wholesome honesty within the industry.. If our industry is gonna come around it is gonna happen thru honesty, integrity, transparency and fairness - the millennials will have it no other way - in my opinion..Millennials are also EXTREMELY tech oriented.. Video games are their obsession and their world!! How about instead of comments that tear them down for this,, we unite and use this to the advantage of our industry? I have talked and talked and talked about this with my dealership friends and to date, this idea has fallen on deaf ears but its worth another try here.. How about creating a Bike Simulator similar to Flight Simulators used in air craft training? Something high end that would record braking, clutching, throttle control and visional responses to road/intersection activity while the "rider" rides thru actual roadway interactions? Scoring could happen depending on how the rider performs at each intersection. A reduction in costs associated with riders training could be linked to scores achieved thru these high tech machines.. Maybe even insurance discounts? Part of the reason for millennials choice to stay away from bikes has to do with the dangers associated therewith.. One of my kids, who was an EXCELLENT rider on a Motocross track and spent hours and hours touring the country with me on touring bikes, is now a Doctor. "Doc" is fully aware of the dangers associated with biking and chooses to not get involved with street bikes because of this.. Instilling confidence thru proactive use of technology with full blown bike simulators installed at various dealerships would certainly help in building confidence of the newbie rider and,, because of their kinship to video games - I can not help but wonder if millennials wouldn't just flock to dealerships to get in line to test their skills! Definitely Economics plays a lot into all this.. My youngest asked me the other day if I had any idea of how the economy "polls" got so screwed up.. She was referring to the idea that the current polls show the US median income to be close to 60k a year when, in fact,, that is actually an extremely high figure.. Fact is,, those days of high paying manufacturing shop jobs are long gone and it is amazing how many millennials are working 2 jobs and earning far less than 30k a year.. A person does not have to travel far to notice all the empty shops of days gone by that are closed and/or replaced by Wendys or Taco Bells = 25k a year at best.. I see it and understand it.. I look at those wages and chase back in time to the point where 25k was the normal blue collar shop workers wage and then take a peek at what was happening in the economy at that time.. I come with the mid 80's.. A new touring bike was 6 grand TOPS - 5k was average.. Gas was .85 a gallon and on and on.. A person could afford to have some fun as discretionary spending was there for pretty much anyone who wanted it... Times are a little tougher, take it back,, a LOT tougher.. Maybe it's time for folks up the ladder of these large corporations to take a look at whats going on under them and be happy with just a million dollar a year income........ Oh brother,,, I am headed down a bad road here cause I am headed into politics... I wont do that but I will end by saying that with a little thought, some unity and working together as an industry, maybe some sacrifice on behalf of industry leaders in cost cutting to lower prices, a lot of hard work and sleepless nights thinking about how we can build the gen x's and millennials up instead of tearing them down - I think our industry can be saved,, I REALLY DO.. Puc

:big-grin-emoticon::big-grin-emoticon::big-grin-emoticon: You'll probably get a kick out of this little true fireside story Tooch.. A buddy of mine on his Harley and I on Maggie (my R1) were pulling out of a local gas station that is located on a hill top.. There's about 100' of space between where you start going down hill off the hill top and the driveway to the gas station.. In a valiant attempt to show the world that his Harley was faster than my R1 (its an American guy thing ,,,, at least around here anyway) my buddy left the driveway before I did and I listened to him going thru a couple gears as he headed down the hill... I left the driveway with a blip of the throttle on Maggie and pulled the clutch in as I hit the top of the hill to coast down it (coasting down hills on a bike is a flaw in my character).. When I was about half way down the hill is when I noticed the Police Officer waiting at the bottom of the hill at a traffic light for us .. As we started to turn in front of the waiting officer those cool looking lights on top of his car lit up and started going around... Of course, we both pulled off the side of the road = my buddy on his HD and me on Maggie.. It was when the officer went around my buddy on his HD and pulled in directly behind me that I knew I was probably the focus of his undivided attention.. I stared at the officer in total respect as he glared at my eyes buried in my full faced helmet and reminded me that the hill top was a 35 mph zone.. As continued in asking me about my drivers license I was unhooking my helmet and in the process of removing my helmet.. As my helmet came off my head the officers face went from to ,, ,, ,, :crackup:in an instant... After he got beyond the initial shock of seeing a under that helmet he just kept saying = "You TOTALLY surprised me,, I never ever expected this"... 1 year old grandsons calling on Skype - gotta run,, back in a bit....

OUTSTANDING report Gary = a HUGE thank you for sharing your experience = GREATLY APPRECIATED!! Not to be a hard nose, jerk wad, overly persistent ,, club house trouble maker but gotta ask,, did you know that its customary to include,,,,,,,,,, never mind... I see FlyinFool, Saddlebum and YammerDan are already in the club penalty box and I dont wanna be crammed in there with those funny smellin lop eared varmints..

I am standing right there beside you my brother waiting for that link .. Matter of fact,, I am as anxious as a little kid standing in line waiting for the ice cream lady to finish makin his ice cream cone while I eagerly await getting to read your report!! ,, how about some half time video's about what we know thus far concerning that gorgeous new Venture you got to spend time on?? :icon_lurker:*** INTERMISSION ***

THAT was SOOOOO freakin AWESOME Randy!!!!!! Of course, being just a normal everyday biker and not being an Air Force guy like you other two varmints (so I dont know much about land speed knots and all that) = my very favorite quote from that awesome vid wasss

,,, another one of those winter time, opportunities appears on the horizon!! Sooo,,Vaz, are you by chance talking about my favorite little screws on the whole bike that LOVE to take up permanent home in the carb housings? The little steel ones who once they get a little fuel vapor between them and that aluminum become nay sayers about letting anyone in to check diaphrams?? If so,, did you by chance happen to try using a prick punch at an angle on the side of them with a carefully placed WACK from that little 12 oz hammer ya got hanging on the wall?? I only ask because I have removed more stuck screws that way (and LOTS of those little diaphram cover screws in such a manner) thru the years... Time for a video demo for these varmints? Sorry about the Neil, couldnt resist...

Pick it up and lets stick that modded out motor ya been waiting for into it Bongo!! Then take it rippin on the two tracks up in Northern Michigan :guitarist 2::guitarist 2::guitarist 2::guitarist 2: Seriously though, thinking out loud here but arent just the trike kits that have 2 wheels on the back fairly pricey?? I know just the rear axle set up for the Sporty my neighbors and I built up ended up at just under 2 grand = just for the Axle and it was a MUCH simpler belt drive system (but I had BLAST riding it like a big Honda 350X!!)..

Now THAT would be difficult to ride on the back wheel!!!

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SOOOOOO MUCH FUN VENTUREFAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! While I highly suspect that our parents separating us when we were just infants actually may have saved our lives I am glad that time/space and God Himself saw fit to reunite us though cause when it comes to having a brother = YOU are AWESOME!!! THANK YOU again for sharing your adventures with us and I, for one, eagerly await the next installment of - "Zip Tie's, Duct Tape and C-Clamp's".. Keep on Venturing Far my friend!! Puc

100% completely and totally AGREED Randy!! Now that its all over and done with I gotta get ahold of @Flyinfool and have em come over and clean up the remains of that 11 inches of fresh White Wash he left laying on my lawn last night!!

Thanks brother @The Tooch !! Have read most of it before but WOWZY was that refreshing!! Also,, all the very best wishes for your "gang" of riders as you seek yet more fun out CTFW in 2018!! Dont forget to Dispatch us lots more of those AWESOME pics and trail tales Dave!! Puc

OUTSTANDING Zzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::dancefool: Like all these other lop eared varmints - I will be following this closely with all the :fingers-crossed-emo possible for complete and full success brother!! Make er go!!!!!!!!!!! Puc

INDEED,, synced out and piped up nicely there is NOTHING that sounds as purdy as a Yamaha V-4!!

Hey @OrlinEngh,, ever see this one out CTFW?? Seems like Tip, Tweeks and I went thru a place called (Eastman) out by you folks one time... Dont remember ever seeing this puppy out there on those gorgeous back roads of yours... Check it out,,, looks like a decent scoot with a decent $ for an actual trike kit installed.. Anyone know what trike kit this is?? https://lacrosse.craigslist.org/mcy/d/1986-yamaha-venture-1300-trike/6491474831.html

Thanks Snype!! Tell ya one thing, IMHO,, the wait is WELL worth it !!!!

Sooo,, while we in the great white, severely White Washed, North are hunkered down in our frost bitten little cabins and found shooting rubber bands at little field mice who are playing on our counter tops as we wait for our hero from California to get on here and report in with yet another one of his AWESOME 3rd Gen Venture/Eluder ride reports (wait for it,,, waittt forr itt ) ,,, wanna hear about a preminition I had?? I had a dream that our hero forgot to c-clamp the floorboards down on the new Yammy he is test riding and this oversight on his part caused him to not be able to complete the Iron Butt he had planned!