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1 order of Magic Mushr,,,, I mean hand picked Morel Mushrooms for the Drewster coming right up :rotfl: :guitarist 2::guitarist 2::guitarist 2:

I have actually seen ones where the hub gear is worn right off and there is still usuable teeth on the drive gear and the set on mine were the hub gear was worn to 65% missing and drive gear maybe down 5% BUT = I do hear what your saying and it could come to doing exactly what your talking about.. I have 3 parts bikes I am working from and swap rear tires frequently so I will keep an eye/feel on it and will definitely follow up on your advice if need be..

That tar n featherin thing is more of a suthern hospitbality deal,,, I'd be more concerned with us feeding ya so many Hot Dogs that your scoot or even your truck wouldnt be able to haul ya down to MD if I was you!!!

Must be west Michigan ladies aint as heat resistant as them Floridian ladies

Drop the stock mufflers and bend up some of your own and my moneys on you would lose 100 pounds with all the other stuff gone..

Might wanna pay attention to or even take pics of any spacer locations between the caliper mount and the wheel just for reference when putting it back together. Also, there maybe removeable spacers on the outside edge of the hub both external where the hub meets the caliper and internal where the hub mates with the drive that you will want to remove before taking it in to have the tire swapped IMHO..

and Tip and I have done a fair amount of transcontinental touring with friends who were riding an air cooled V-Twin and also riding 2 up down into the 100 degree tempts of the south and can tell ya first hand that the lady passenger on the back of that great big gorgeous V-Twin got baked enough on her legs and feet while sitting in a construction zone down yonder that she swore she would never ever ever do that again... And to this very day,,, she hasn't... IMHO,, the ride experience for 1 up on an air cooled V-Twin tour is a totally different debate than that of a full out cross country tour in 2 up mode....

Looks like there is a really good chance that very dear friend and brother of ours will be doing a jammer party at our house and riding to MD with Tip, Tweeksis and I this year... Was wondering if the east siders like ragtop69gs or rickardracing or Carbon_One were meeting up for the ride in and if so, should we attempt to connect up for the grand entrance into Ohio??? Also,,, if other lop eared varmints from the west like @Flyinfool wanted to stop in for my man cave sleep over jammer party for thursday night they would be welcome and welcome to tag for the journey to Dons.. Others have done this and survived the ordeal so IMHO,,, ya have nothing to fear but fear itself,,,,,, ok,,, and maybe be a little fearful of eating my hand picked mushrooms

IMHO,,, no need to remove the fairing and bleeding off the metering valve only takes second... Here's how I'd do it if it were mine:

Absopositivelylutely Cha... While many sensitive in the ears lop eared varmints may actually be greasing those pins to keep em from squeakin,,, ultimately that squeakin sound is the voice of the pins sayin "hey,,, grease me ya varmint,, put a dab of grease on me and might last an extra couple hundred thousand miles".. Nahhhhh nahhhhhh deeeeee booooo booooooo ya missed me againnn :rasberry: Let it go Fool,,,, let it go or @Freebird may give you a probationary term you wont believe!!!!! Those mating teeth didnt look that bad,, down about 20 thou.. I cant but wonder if the hub gear didnt have the same heat treating as the inner gear after hobbing or something cause it definitely had no where near the wear.. GOOD point though brother!!!

FYI,, when I get a chance I will spell this out by copy/pasting the posts that led to my comment that stated "you could be a Yamaha shill or I could be one for HD" for ya brother. Until then,, for the readers benifit and that of your own,,, I absolutely did not ever say you were one... Like I been saying all along,,,facing the truth is the best way IMHO....

I'll just make this comment to serve as an opinionated (and probably not a very good one cause I have never owned or worked on a 2nd Gen) answer to both this post and that other one you made looking for pre season prep advice. 1st,,, and this goes double if you have been using Seafoam as I have found the use of Seafoam to put a coating on my plugs ceramic insulator, because of the sensitivity to over choking because of the smaller plugs we use - I would swap in a new set of standard NGK's and gap em at the low side so when they heat up over time and open up like plugs tend to do, they have the whole tolerance range to open into. Because your scoot is not cold starting without the choke,, IMHO - your running fat problem is probably not related to the floats being set to high.. Knowing this, I would probably drop the metering rods 1 1/2mm and see if that didnt clean it up.. On my 1st Gens it was necessary to shim em down using little nylon washers I got for a couple cents each from Ace Hardware but yourr bike may be more of the traditional bike with the "C" clip on the metering rods to adjust em.. I would check the diaphrams when I set the metering rods and of course, resync after wards. Also,, IMHO,, if your using KnN filters and especially if you are oiling them,,, its fairly easy to restrict airflow and fatten up the mixture that way too.. I love my stock paper filters that allow just the right amount of air box restriction BUT - lots of folks go oil treated KnN's..

If you click on my video below of our comparison between our tired old 1st Gen with its pocket sized MP3 player compared to the new on board Info System (start at two minutes in) you may notice that there were some teething issues happening way back then (I actually mentioned to them that it might be a little soon for a release and later learned that production had been halted for a short time while Mom Yam worked out unspecified problems). Of course,, being the one of the more cocky ol geezer touring bike rider wannabe types who still has not quite come to appreciate all these modern day electronic gizmo's on motorcycles these days I also could not refrain from quoting Scotties (odd,,, Scotty and I share the same name ) famous lines (vid 2 below) to those Yamaha factory folks at the Rally

OUTSTANDING Randy, well done brother!! Thank you so much for doing what no one really ever wants to do but out of love for our fallen family member and having Dan's back, you went looking for answers. Double checking for possibility of things not right and letting your family back here know what you found so we could somehow maybe find a little more peace knowing that the way it went down was looked into by one of his dearest friends does exactly that,, at least in my case... THANK YOU for your thoughtfulness and genuine love for Dan and your extended family here Randy! I know one thing for sure,,, our Yammer Dan would have done exactly the same thing had this nightmare had found one of us in that saddle instead of him. Well done Venturous Randy,,, well done!! Love ya brother! Puc

Just crazy!! Prayers Up and THANK GOD this was not worse than it was!!

Thank you Skidder!!

,,, wouldnt using 33 coats of Liquid Glass on your Victory and only 11 coats on the HD and trying to draw a conclusive comparison of their resistance to paint finish wear be sort of the definition of one not comparing apples to apples ..

What exactly does having a good shop mean to you BBQ? Is this your place where you work on your ownor does this mean that you know of a local bike shop that still works on carburated scoot? Quite frankly,, these V-4's that we here in the club have come to love and appreciate have a fairly complicated carb system that,, having proven themselves worthy - are still carbs with all the tendency's to wear out float needle n seats that will leak down fuel if not addressed, get holes in diaphrams cause their CV carbs, loose float height over time, easily plug up low speed jetting if stored improperly and on and on.. I know this sounds harsh but a while back,, another new member came aboard and asked similar questions before making the jump - I tired to explain to him that he was either gonna end up spending the bucks at a shop (f he could find one who would work on a bike over 10 years old) or he would absolutey have to learn to spin wrenches and enjoy it cause old carburated anything has to be Tweeked on if you expect to get the miles out of it.. He bought it and is still kind of frustrated IMHO at how much is involved.. Not trying to discourage you in any way BBQ,, just trying to voice the truth.. Concerning the 99,,, one of the things I would definitely look at if I were considering a 2nd Gen of that vintage is I would look carefully at the bottom of the rear shock and make sure it shows no sign of leakage.. If it does,, offer em 3 and take the money you saved and use it to buy a good aftermarket...

I got me a sneakin hunch that the last thing on Yamsters mind when he took that picture was whether or not his camera was zoomed in and cutting Charlottes pic in half.. Personally,,, I'm thankful he even contacted us and made a post.. I sort of expected to not hear from him again until he had crossed over the border headed in Mexico and even then,, only to see if any of us knew how to say "THIS THING ROCKS" in Spanish.. :dancefool::dancefool::dancefool:

:clap2::thumbsup: I type wayyyyyy to slow now that I am in geezerland By the way Yoop,, on the stickers,, clean off the area good before you apply them after the bike has earned the sticker, carry a permanent marker so people can sign them,, figure out a way to clear coat over the signatures (I have never done that and now regret it miserably because I think my Yammer Dan signing has faded off )... Get er done brother,, IMHO - YOU are on the right path!!!! out Get out and ride!! Puc

In many of the commentary's concerning how much more a person is getting for their money by buying the Venture over the $500 more MSRP Road Glide I would counter claim with the truth that yes,, the HD does not have reverse BUT,, one of the things that HD does have that neither Yamaha or Polaris does is WOWZY can they paint a scoot = it is one of their claims to glory that they have perfected over the years, simple as that.. The Polaris bikes are known to show rust lines on fender seams while sitting on the show room floor and have very soft paint and Yamaha squirts the stuff like they always have - it's decent but it's not HD quality by any stretch of the word.. I also notice that numerous folks are complaining about the paint on the new Wings.. I would say if you really want the paint to "pop" = pay for a custom job by a really really good painter or do like Carl mentioned and wet sand the clear coat off, buff out the paint to perfection and redo the clear coat... Otherwise, just figure you swapped high end paint for the things you got on the new Venture that HD doesn't have and ride er till the cows come home..

Yamster,,, what "standards top ones" are you refering to? I dont recall seeing an upper set of deflectors on any of the new Ventures I have ridden. By the way,,, WOWZY that Charlotte is gorgeous!! CONGRATS to you both!! Or should I say the three of you,, cant forget your ride partner in that congrats!!!

By the way Yamster,,, WOWZY WOW WOW WOW!!!! That Charlotte is drop dead GORGEOUS!!!! MAJOR congrats!!

I agree,, I still think if Mom Yam woulda made the entire vent/grill/jet intake looking lowers functional instead of just a couple of the lower vents at the very bottom of each one operatable so only your feet are getting air thru, she could have completely avoided the need for air deflectors for heat management. As it is, you are really short of options for that purpose as the lowers are not detachable..

I rode em numerous times out in Sturgis last year and put the engine/exhaust pipe heat smack dab between the Polaris bikes with the 111 in em and the HD 103/110 which I have some experience on both of those too.. The Polaris Indian being considerably hotter and the Harley being the lesser of the 3.. Keep in mind that my opinion is coming from a "2 up" touring perspective. Ironically,, one of the major bike magazines just spun out a comparison between the three and totally agreed with what I experienced HOTTEST = Polaris 111, HOT = Yam TC and lesser of the three when coming to heat = HD Road Glide with the M8. All my opinion (which we are all entitled to IMHO) - always best do your own test!! Another close friend of mine, brother and fellow VR member also did a journalist ride on the Eluder and SVTC and he found the exhaust header heat on the left side to be unbareably hot and shared your concern.. Personally, I know the person who wrote this and can tell you he has a ton of experience on the tour and I trust his word.. His experience and professional opinion can be read at the link at the end of this paragraph. https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2018/03/01/iron-butt-comparison-2018-yamaha-star-venture-vs-personalized-2007-royal-star-venture/ A new member here at VR named Zelthian purchased the new bike and wrote this as a summary of his ride experience: [h=2]"""" 2018 Yamaha Star Venture - Mike's Personal Review[/h] I'm going to attempt to make this concise. Please feel free to ask questions, and I'll add things as I see fit from these questions. INTRODUCTION I'd had my eye on this bike since it was announced back in the June timeframe last year. I was still feeling the effects of the Victory closure announcement (I had a 2011 Victory Cross Roads), and since that time I had been window shopping for my next bike. I had mentally settled on the Indian Roadmaster, as I wanted a v-twin touring bike, but I wasn't completely thrilled with the option. I'm a bit of a geek (as some might have noticed), and while the traditional styling of the Indians is nice, it just wasn't really my mug of coffee. I still remember the first time I saw the new Star Venture. My first reaction was, "Yeah, like that!" on the styling. I was hooked, so I had to force myself to curb my enthusiasm. I wasn't yet in a position to be able to afford it, and I didn't want my fan-boy feeling to cause me to overlook flaws that may give me reason not to buy one. My biggest concern going in was the weight; 963 pounds is nothing to sneeze at. So I did my research, read the reviews, kept up with things in the news and bid my time until my daughter finished school. It was then I saw on on the showroom floor at the same dealer where I bought my Victory. I made the mistake of sitting on it and letting the sales guy hold it so I could check my sitting clearance for my legs. It was, of course, a perfect fit. I let the guy "tell me all about it" (not mentioning the research I had already done), told him I was considering it, and left. A week later I brought my teenage son in try out the passenger seat. Of course he loved it. Told the guy I was still seriously considering it, and left. It was another week and a half before I returned, having done due diligence on finances and whatnot. I insisted on a test ride. The sales guy immediately agreed. I was so nervous I was going to drop the thing, but I didn't. It just didn't feel like a 963-pound bike, even at low speed. It accelerated far more effortlessly than I imagined and it turned and handled very well. When I returned to the dealership, I bought the bike. THE GOOD Now that I've put 2000 miles on the bike, I'm comfortable saying I am more confident riding this bike than my Victory Cross Roads, which surprised me given the 200-pound difference in weight. At low speed it feels like a much lighter bike. On the highway it doesn't break a sweat. Indeed, my son, having eaten good BBQ before a leg of a ride as dozed off on the back more than once (he's ok, no worries). The passenger seat is equally comfortable, and I find myself debating on whether I really need highway pegs (I'm 5' 9" in boots). Despite its bulk, it is a well-engineered machine. Power is awesome for a stock v-twin. Now that I can rev the engine beyond 2600, I've been able to get a better idea of the engine's capabilities. I'm not a expert (this is only my third bike), but I haven't found myself wanting for power. The transmission shifts easily (though I find myself occasionally over-shifting neutral). Storage space is cavernous. This is my first tour trunk, I've been kicking myself for not investing in one sooner. What I normally carry fits well in the saddlebags, leaving the trunk to stash my helmet and jacket when I stop. The cubbies elsewhere are nice but I haven't found a use for them yet (yet) outside of holding and charging my phone. I have the Transcontinental model, so features are vast. I haven't use the CB yet (I have along trip coming up), but I've taken in most of the other audio options. It's easier to list what doesn't come with the bike than what does come with the bike, which is saying something. This is also my first bike with heated seats and grips. And you can set the levels for High/Medium/Low heat in the infotainment system. I also got the accessory headed grips for the passenger. My son loves them. Generally, I'm getting about 35-37 mpg in the city, and 44-47 mpg on the highway. One year warranty, four additional years extended warranty. THE NOT-SO-GOOD Does the engine put off heat? Yes. Is it enough to be a real bother? No. I've found it's most noticeable when I've been on the highway, then I have to stop and wait for several minutes. It's not going to burn your leg off, but it will warm you up a bit on cool days. Also, this heat can be mitigated a great deal by opening the vents just forward of the floorboards to let air in by your legs. My biggest gripes are with some of the niggles with the Infotainment System. These are documented ad nauseam elsewhere on the forums, so I won't go into too much detail. The voice prompts on the GPS can't be adjusted (the voice breaks in too often for my taste). Importing a route is needlessly complex. Routes are limited to 5 waypoints. The Pandora control isn't stable and breaks randomly (viva la Bluetooth). Despite these niggles, it is quite functional. An update should be available "Any Day NowTM". My bike does get a bit of transmission whine from time to time, though it seems to be lessening a bit as time goes on. The throttle can be a bit twitchy. It's a throttle-by-wire system, and there are times when I feel I may have let off just a tiny bit only to have the engine down-rev more than expected. It has taken some getting used to. SUMMARY I've gotten into the habit of telling folks that this is the bike I was waiting for. I really like this bike, and I find myself trying to come up with excuses to get out on it. It is fantastic for what it is, and I'm very glad I made the upgrade."""""""""" And yet another one of the new members who is suppose to be picking up his brand spanking new Red SVTC today, wrote the below after he was finally able to procure a 50 mile test ride up near his home in Ontario Canada. Personally, I think that until we hear of actual riding of the SVTC in the kind of temps you are speaking of in the desert regions where many of love to ride so we know exactly how the new Venture is gonna handle the heat - it is still up in the air.. Here is the report from the person getting his today: