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Indeed Mike = THANK YOU for allowing us the ride along brother,,, sounds like you and your new scoot had a BLAST out there and that is what it's all about IMHO!!! Loose neck bearings was all after an Epic Adventure like that??? Not bad,,,, not bad at all IMHO!!!

Actually Snype your not to far off on this one,,,,,,,, that Heritage Springer buried under there is a HD that I have always admired and would LOVE to own someday.. ,, I make a club promise that if somehow I do get to finally own one I will strap my belongings on a little tighter though so I dont have to reach back and hold stuff on to keep it from cluttering the roads behind me

Ahhhhh yes,,, proper wording is EVERYTHING!! This must be very difficult for you my brother seeings how you are a man of so few of them

Come on ya lop eared story tellin varmint = SPIT IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey QuickDraw MaGraw (you beat me to it again Roller!!),,, you might be onto something here!! Only iffy is that I have a Grand Son due out in California in early September and we are hosting a baby shower for him out there between now and then (family first) so this is gonna be a 2 trips to the west coast year for us.. I have both Tweeksis and the car prepped for the 1st trip (the "shower" trip as we still are not sure that we are going to be able to haul all the stuff we need from here for the shower out there but we shall see.. If we end up taking the car, Tweeksis will be sitting in the garage all prepped for a journey eastward if the dates line up:happy34: so don't let your infrared temp gun get to far away from ya my friend!! If we are home and at all possible,, I would LOVE to take you up on your offer brother!! I was already trying to hammer out a way to get out to the NY Rally cause I/we have never been and I have some very good friends I would LOVE to see again (yourself included) and some new varmints I too would LOVE to meet IRL and all that BUT being able to actually put one of these new ones under the microscope and record the actual findings would be icing on the cake IMHO... Already having a really good start at it after attending the Rally those Canuckians put on earlier this year and then having @videoarizona come and have soooooo much fun with us as an extension of Don's MD = This could turn into one of the mostest AWESOME summers this ol Cowpuc has seen a couple years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Personally I LOVE riding the Bonneville and,, although I have never ridden it competively Zag, I wish your friend nothing but the best of the best out there in realizing his dream in the attempt to set a record!!!!! What a BLAST!!! I know that the salt doesn't look like it when looking across it from the Bonneville entrance at the end of that roadway near Wendover but, it can in fact be a very dangerous place and is not always welcoming to high speed pursuit.. "Pot Holes" of salt mud and the like can really mess up your day... I have ridden it many times just for fun in everything from cars to bikes (below is a video attempt to top out Tweeks in all her glory) and, after topping out my "bucket list" early model R1 Yamaha (made just before they speed limited them to 186 mph) at 172 mph (176 actual on the gps) tached out in 5th Gear have now got a dream (inspired by my precious wife) to make another trip out to the Bonneville with the R1 in tow to see if Maggie the R1 would actually carry full tach in 6th gear and see if it would break 200 mph = I honestly think she has it in her!!! Please let your friend know that he has a DEFINITE follower of what he is up to, someone who truly has his that he is 100% successful in his record setting attempt and someone who obviously shares in the passion and love for what he is up against!!!!!!! Also,, PLEASE keep us posted here as his day comes forward and, if possible,, get lots and lots of pictures for us my brother!!! Now this IS exciting!!!:fingers-crossed-emo:fingers-crossed-emo:fingers-crossed-emo:fingers-crossed-emo:fingers-crossed-emo:fingers-crossed-emo:fingers-crossed-emo:fingers-crossed-emo Puc

Hey you lop eared ice cream snatchin varmint,,,, what would be the chance of one of you varmints who speak in that eastern U.S. accent checking this out for us less than advanced to see if that really is going to be the case and also what days and hours of the days during the rally that the new one will be available?? Maybe a quick note of clarification here would also not be a bad idea my brother so all our club members know up front that this is gonna happen if it is? Personally,,, if we as a group really will have unfettered access to the machine I am definitely interested in attending with infrared, video camera and a completely stock 1st Gen V-4 to compare for analysys if there is any way possible for me/us to make it out there (I know,, my passion for this stuff is sickening but what the heck,, I was born with this disease and have learned to live with it thus far)!!

There may be others besides myself that would really like to see/read some final answers concerning some things related to the the new Venture including things like the performance of it in it's "Sport Mode" (there have been rumors spread now that going into Sport Mode engages a turbo, changes the cam timing, remaps both fuel and ignition which increases the Horsepower from that of a 70ish horse 88 inch stock HD to that closer to the 120 horse V-Rod performance with enough umpth to lift the front wheel in the 1st three gears and break the back tire loose in 3rd gear just by rolling on the throttle) which has been claimed to wildly turn the beast into a muscle bike but also rumored to be nothing more than a throttle to throttle body ratio change. Also, IMHO, it would also be outstanding to read that someone has actually taken the bikes tempature with a infrared temp gun as there have been reports both ways that the 3rd Gen is actually cooler than any water cooled touring bikes sitting in traffic back ups when the ambients are above 100 degrees even though the other touring scoots engines (like the Gold Wing) are covered/shrouded with plastic all while others are still reporting that the bike definitely has heat issues in the same way HD and Polaris's Indian do.. All that said,, I wonder if those attending the NY Rally will be allowed to actually ride it and do some real life genuine comparisons or will the bike be treated like the demo's were at Sturgis last year when the demo riding was very monitored and looking for/asking for answers was not encouraged... Just thinking out loud here but I wonder if members here KNEW that they were going to actually be able to do some actual comparing of this new scoot (as a group) that the NY Rally may just see record attendance

I may be TOTALLY wrong on this but I do not recall hearing of one of our States issuing CC permits and not allowing open carry. As I mentioned earlier,, the CC is an extension of the right to keep and bear and open carry is foundational in that right, with Concealed Carry being in addition. The States who do not adhere to our Constitutional governing (lots of those on both the east and west coast), and is my understanding, do not allow for open carry and it's therefore a given that they also do not issue CC permits and normal law abiding citizens are not allow to pack = in those States, this is reserved for bad guys and Law Enforcement only!! I am not sure if this has changed cause it has been a while since I have chatted with anyone from Wyoming about this but a few years ago I was traveling across Wy, stopped at a gas station to tank up and noticed Chrome Colt Python laying on the seat of the truck next to me, the owner was putting in some fuel and I commented to him about how PURDY that shooter was.. He reached in, picked it up and handed it to me for me to play with = it was fully loaded.. I said "got a CC permit eh"? Nope,, was his reply,, dont need nothing like that out here, it's still America out here and everyone carrys.. Later, I noticed some WY State Patrol officers eating lunch and asked em about it.. Oh yeaa,, was there reply,,, out here it's a given that every car we pull over is armed,,, just the way it is... Shamefully I do not know where this stands now as an absolute (I live here,, I REALLY should know our laws concerning this) but back when I was young it was considered a normal way of life to see "Easy Rider Rifle Racks" hanging in the window our pickup trucks = everybody had em and 99% of em had long guns hanging openly for all the world to see.. Now adays,, it is my understanding that even the most flat out conservative and ardent Constitutional honoring States that are issuing CC's do NOT honor those CC's to include long guns!! In other words,, the CC permit is ONLY for handguns,,, makes no sense either IMHO..

SOOOOO glad they found that killer and got things under control Ben!!!!! THANK YOU for taking the time to get checked out and taking corrective action my friend = you will be in our thoughts and prayers for a full recovery and your ol buddy Puc is looking forward to many many more years of ,,, and TONS of with you,, you ol lop eared Saddle Bum varmint you!!! P.S. = I still dont care whether Tooches kids gave em that sticker or not,,,, you n I arent even close to being ready for THAT yet

OUTSTANDING!!

Hey Bum,, IMHO: There are some vast differences between Canada and the USA and a huge difference relevant to answering some of the questions posed in this discussion is that we, the U.S. are a Constitutional Republic and the 2nd Amendment of our beloved Constitution specifically gives the citizens of our country the right to keep and bear arms. It should be noted that this 2nd Amendment right has NOTHING to do with sporting activities such as hunting or target shooting as a prerequisite to keeping and bearing,, that is NOT why our forefathers wrote it (The 2nd) into that document that governs our land. It is my understanding that Canada, as well as the other countries under the govern of the British Commenwealth, have neither of these rights written in such a document - is this correct to your understanding too? Here in America,, many States still accept the rule of Law spelled out in the 2nd Amendment of the right to Bear and, even "open carry" is actually quite common.. An example,, here in Michigan we tend to follow the U.S. Constitution in that way,, we are an open carry state and I have worked in shops where seeing a shooter on a fellow employees side was a common site . Also, on one of our cross country rides not long ago, Tip and I stopped at Walmart in a Nevada town and were surrounded by folks carrying side arms on their hips right in the store - it was GREAT to see folks taking advantage of their right to keep and bear IMHO. Sadly,, there has been and continues to be a movement by people who do not agree with our Constitutional Republic way of life who are constantly trying to change it to be more like other countries that do not share in the freedoms spelled out in our Constitution. This slippery slope of attempting to change the law of our land does create some real confusion even for "we the people" here in the U.S. so the hint of some confusion on your part, IMHO, is understandable my friend. I know,, I got long winded again but I KNOW you know me well and, will forgive me of such.. A final note,,, the CC laws across the board here are actually an extension of those rights protected by our 2nd Amendment and that extension simply gives the holder there of the right to hide the weapon under a jacket (conceal) or inside a car (concealed from site) in their pursuit of bearing arms any time they choose to. The CC laws are considered by many to be a positive thing in this way for "we the people" but there is, as always, a concern that the CC procurement methodology could lead to an easy "list" of folks who would be visited should the 2nd Amendment be aborted and our citizens be required to give up their weapons. Sounds crazy but I have actually heard of folks choosing to actively refuse to obtain such licensure just for that fear.... Its a crazy, changing world brother!!!!!!!!

Yep,, just one other ?.. Does that Silver Lining Herb thing apply to the orange sticker on the side of the bikes fairing and on the trunk?? The one that is kind of shaped like a trumpet?? That is the sticker I was refering K.... THANKS my friend!!

:sign yeah that::sign yeah that::sign yeah that: It was a steady progress in that direction thru the years in my case too Roller.. Starting all the way back in the 60's with a Bear Magnum recurve (still got wooden arrows in a case downstairs) and then onto an "Allen Speedster" (remember those?) when they first came out.. Killed many many deer with that little compound until I left it on top of my car after hunting in sub zero tempts and climbing in to warm up.. After Dad passed I stopped hunting (kids all grew up anyway so our need for meat went wayyyyy down) and havent looked back.. Still got all the tree stands and archery equipment though and know that those runways are still as active as they used to be.. Fact is,, living here near the State Park where deer seemed to have a nack for standing in the roads and getting run over,,, I highly suspect that I will be set for venision for the rest of my life.... Probably seperate my shoulder if I tried to knock an arrow and pull that old compound back to bring the string across my eye now adays anyway..... I LOVED bow hunting!!!!!!

Soooooo,,, what ever happened to the ugly shotgun contest???? Zag and I are only ones who still do the shotgun thing???????? By the way Zag,,, that aint no ugly shooter,,, that there's a PURDY popper IMHO!!!

All the very very best wishes on passing your Concealed Carry test brother!!!!! :thumbsup:Get er done my friend!!!:thumbsup: Many many years ago my Dad was a police officer and somehow he learned about "natural point of aim" (what he always called it) and taught it to me when I was just a kid.. I discovered thru his encouragement that, for home protection, Dads old school philosophy/theory was actually the route that I wanted to follow.. What it comes down to is that instead of becoming dependent on the accuracy of your sites and lining them up with the target,,, you purchase a weapon for home use that "fits" you and comes to a natural point of aim = what ever it is you point at.. As a kid,, he would have me form a pistol with my pointer and thumb and point it at a wall = then look down my finger and sure enough - when I "pointed" at an object on the wall with my pointer finger and looked down my finger like looking down the barrel of a gun, I would 100% of the time be right on target!! Later,,, having spent many many hours owning and playing with handguns,, while attending one of our AWESOME Michigan gun shows of the era I discovered that the Beretta 92F was the ONLY handgun that, in stock form,, would come to a natural point of aim for me.. Now this is just a matter of my personal opinion Don,, but if I were you I truly think I would grab one of those little "bullet" bore sighters (cheap,, I think you can get a 9mm now for under 5 bucks) in the caliber of handgun you want to conceal carry. Then I would hit the gun shows and gun shops and, after asking permission to drop the laser into the chamber, do so and do a BUNCH of "natural point of aims" until I found that special weapon that came to as close to spot on without having to depend on sites of any sort - especially in close quarters = thought being that you may not want indecision at that time of need,,, Dad's thought was always just to be able to point and shoot,,, sort of quick draw Magraw kind of philosophy when it comes to protecting you and your loved ones life.. That way,, if the bad thing should happen where you really need to use your concealed carry weapon,, even your natural instincts will be working in your favor!!! Another thing that I am still finding out about something my Dad taught me about shooting is that practice makes perfect.. Not much different than slow riding a full blown touring bike in all her glory I spose. I been shootin my little freebie pellet pistol a LOT here during the day and have noticed a considerable improvement in my "Shoot n Scoot Pistol Golf" scores while out playing with the local lop eared gun totin varmints.. Even tagging numerous 75 yard "drives" on the 5" self healing ground target with my favored .45!!!!!!!!! LOTS OF FUN!!!!! IMHO,, contributable to hours of cheap play with a bb gun,, just like bikin,, skills anyone anywhere can develop - all it takes is LOTS of practice and,, of course,, as mentioned,, LOTS of ammo (by the way - you can still get 22 caliber pellets = 500 of them for under 5 bucks (I just ordered another 500 rounds for my .45 = 120 bucks)!!! I know,, to much opinion,, I'll shut up Best of luck on your test brother!!! Puc

They come in REAL handy if your a desert rat and need a place to hang a gallon jug of water from.. You simply stick a 3/8 inch bolt thru that antenna hole and then hang a fresh, screw on cap, gallon jug of water from it!!! There ya go Ready,,,, now watch how fast it gets snatched up!!!!

In the bottom pic to the right I can clearly hear that horse saying something that I have heard from my passengers on more than one occasion = "Wilbur,, if you dont stop wicken this thing up in the corners like that I am gonna kick you to the curb!!!" P.S.> be interesting to know what that sticker is on the side/back of that awesome machine!!!

No voice to text on this puter Jack,, straight up touch typin BUT,, remember,,, I also have Dupuytrens so am only able to use my right hand at about 85% and left hand (still not had the fixen surgery done to that one yet) at about 60% so I am having to learn to touch type all over again.. I did learn to type in College though and used it A LOT thru the years in both school, teaching and in Management so I used to be ok on a key board (about 60 WPM accurately).. Now I would say somewhere in the range of 25 to 30 wpm would be about right. P.S. - haven't you ever noticed how many times I get beat up on trying to get a response out before anyone else these days,,,,, I have.... In my case,,, getting old does mean getting slow

I feel your pain Corporal Newkirk!!! It hurts so much ya wanna cry tears of joy,,, totally a mixed bag of emotions.... I always liken it to what a women might feel when giving birth to a person she loves so much she would die for her/him. Amazing thing this parenting business... At any rate,,, sure sounds like you Dawson's did a right fine job IMHO,,,, to you all of you and please tell that youngen to study hard and very very soon she will be celebrating in the white coat ceremony!!!! kiddo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welllll,, I aint fixen to apologize to Jack here cause I KNOW that any chatter about guns in any way and of any sort in one of his gun threads is not considered another thread,,, besides, if I did say sorry for the Hi-Jack, Jack would think I was saying sorry for saying Hi,,, Jack .. Sooooo,,, @Kretz ,,,,, are you telling us that if go ridin across the UK or Canada in search of a spot to drop a tent for the night and go treasure huntin too we probably wont get to sink our eye teeth into this kind of awesomeness???

I just read this to Tweeksis,, she wanted me to tell you thanks for making sure her name was mentioned in the paragraph where both beauty and pretty were used and not in the other paragraph where ugly was spoken.. Personally,,, I agree 100% with your thoughts here Fool and am including a couple pics of a couple of my more "beautiful" shotguns for entrance into Jack's ugly shotgun contest !! The first one is of my 12 gauge beatered up double barrel that has been used to knock down trees in the pursuit of partridge and beat brush piles in search of lop eared snow shoed and cotton tail rabbits that shook the nose of my hounds many many years ago.. Included also is my .410 whose sites were altered many many years ago by yours truly for deer hunting down in the"Shot Gun Only" area down south of us.. "Teeny" (my old 410) would lay in a real tight group with a slug at 100 yards off its factory bead BUT was shooting consistently about 10" high at that range with 3" slugs when lobbed at that range .. I built the end of the barrel up with black tap and ran a screw into the tape to become the front sight.. Absolute 3" bullseye at 100 yards as you see it!! Ugly,, not in my eyes,,, maybe in the eyes of the 2 deer who filled those Doe permits back to help out the farmers whose crops those critters were eatin but in my eyes, and I am sure those farmers would agree with you and I = these old beaters are nothing short of GORGEOUS in both looks and memories!!

Casey,,, I am not sure where in the Black Hills you are located but, if you ride the well known and highly traveled "SpeerfishCanyon Ride" as shown on all those freebie maps printed out for the Sturgis Rally and get almost to the end of that Canyon cruise there is a big sweeping corner with a huge lodge on the right hand side. There is a gravel road that serves as a driveway for that lodge that "Y"s off to the right and on the side of that gravel driveway/two track is a sign that says something about "Waterfalyl's this way" on it.. I have taken that two track many times thru the years as a quite escape from The Rally and know for a fact that between that lodge and Sundance Wyoming there are many miles of two tracks and quad trails back in there, I know cause we followed them one time and was able to pick our way all the way across to Sundance and then rejoined the throngs over to Devils Tower. We have also camped on those trails many times and have heard everything from Coyotes howlin to Elk bugling in that vast - gorgeous - outback area. Also, if it hasn't changed, it is open range so you will be sharing some of it with Cow's on the trail so, if on a dirt bike (this is never an issue on a loaded up 1st Gen, at least from my experience in handling a tour bike in the woods) you might want to watch your speed if your following a single track thru the forested area out there. Being an old dirt bikin crazey and always seeing "the sign" of that type of activity even while out CTFW with passenger in tow, I can tell you that I only scratched the surface off trail riding in that area. Quad/dirt bikes tracks go in every direction back in those hills!! Along this line of thought, and in the spiirit of the joy of single trackin,, here is another short story just for you of another one of my experiences concerning the matter in another State not to far from you: In Michigan, we dirt riders are regulated by the State to single track trails that are approved by the DNR for our usage. We do have a very nice trail system though with single track equaling close to 2000 miles on both the lower and upper peninsula's = FUN STUFF TOO with riding challenges available for all levels of skill. Having been a member of The Cycle Conservation Club, as well as local organizasions for both Dirt Biking and Snowmobiling, I became very aware of the politics involved at keeping our state and federal lands open for usage by both type of sports and a very strong advocate for returning those lands to the hands of the rightful owners (we the people) for their usage.. That said,, can you imagine my the first time I pulled into Salina Utah on my street bike years ago and found kids running all over town on quads and dirt bikes = traveling right past police officers in the frolic.. I was admiring these antics as I was filling the gas tank on my Venture and thinking,, WOW - would our LEO's/DNR back home be having fun out here!!! No sooner had that thought gone thru my mind than I guy with a truck with a camping trailer in tow behind it with a boat on a trailer in tow behind it pulled into the fuel station to fill his truck with fuel!! Once again, I was totally at him and he noticed my quandry and asked about the look on my face.. I told him that I DEFINITELY was no longer in "Kansas" (definitely like a different planet) as what he was doing there would DEFINITELY cost him a HUGE fine back in Michigan and probably his drivers license and possibly some jail time.. I then commented about the dirt bike/quad activity as the same.. His response was simply,,,,, yep,, this aint Michigan,, this is Utah and we are still pretty free out here and he pulled out with a smile on his face:big-grin-emoticon:... As he did,, some kid with a YZ125 walked over to finish the conversation.. It was a lengthy conversation from that point but I can say that the base answer to the questions I asked were resolved in this: I pointed to the mountains wayyy off in the distance and asked if it was "legal" for him to ride his bike up in those mountains and, if he wanted to = place his tent up there and camp over night? Yes,,, any where, everywhere, anytime,,, it's our property open to all.. and how would you get there from here to do such a thing (thinking my child and I might want to spend an overnighter up there on that mountain top) I asked. To which he replied, after giving me a puzzled look: I would just ride across those open fields and go up that mountain any way I could figure out a trail to do so. Strange place that state of Utah,, I like it!!!!

I probably wont buy one Neil cause, as you know,, I ride naked BUT = Tip and I both totally enjoyed the article you wrote and the seeing our very loved brother's pictures in there !! Another EXCELLENT piece of work ya lop eared spoiled by your new very bestest friend varmint

I always thought getting wood meant,,,,,,,,,,,,, never mind,,,,, I am so far down the probationary hole that I probably will never see daylight again as it is so ... GREAT job Mr. Nelson and Motiv,,, indeed my brother,,,, let the begin!!!!! :witch_brew::witch_brew::witch_brew::witch_brew::witch_brew::witch_brew: