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Thanks Thom!! I pulled the wires from the relays and hooked them direct, and now I have power to the signals and brake light!!. Now I have a few more questions: I have relays and the conveter Part #48915 ($13), I also picked up a Part #46255 ($40) which is the powered box that converts and isolates the trailer. What would you use? Should I use relays at all? I thought I was helping the load on the signals, but it might be more hassle than its worth? If I go with the relay and diodes you suggested, I follow you with diodes, I just hook them up after the relays between the brake wire and the signal wires, but where do you use the 5th relay? I currently have 4 relays, 1 for taillight, brake, and each signal. I won't get a chance to work on it tonight, but If its too hard to explain, I may give you a call. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HELP! Steve

I called Hoppy and talked to a tech. He claimed that with motorcycles, some will work, some will not. He said he gets calls all the time from bike shops that have two models of the same bike and one will work, and one will not. They even swap the harness from the working bike to the non working bike, and the harness just won't work on the one bike. I guess its magic, either that or he was late for lunch and it was a good way to get me off the phone. He did give me a couple ways to check the converter, so that way I can decide if the converter is bad or I have one of the magic non working ventures. I asked about the circuit protector, he said it was Part #46255 which is an isolator. I'm sure its a good idea to have, but those are apparently magic also, because that may or may not solve my problem according to him. So if anyone has any wiring advise, or any spells that I can cast on my bike I would appreciate it:bang head:. Thanks! Steve

Thanks for the Reply Ron, Do happen to know what the part #, or what model Toyota the circuit guard was for? I looked on the Hoppy web site : http://www.hopkinstowingsolutions.com and I don't see and circuit type guards. They list kits by make and Model. If I pick any toyota, they show a direct plug in, or a splice in kit, which is the part number I have (48915 Taillight Converter ). I looked at Northerns web site, and they have the "Tap" by Hoppy kits, but they are vehicle specific also. Sorry for more questions, I'll try to stop by Northen and look in person. Thanks Steve

I'm wiring my 2003 venture for a trailer plug. I'm using a Hoppy #48915 which is supposed to convert independant signal/brake light, to the common combined system. I ran 4 relay's so I didn't stress the system. The problem is, all I get on the plug is tail lights, no signals or brakes. I tracked all five wires back, and even right before they go into the converter they all work fine. On the other side of the coverter/plug, of the 4 wires, only the tail light has power. Did I get a bad converter? I've read where people have used Hoppy #48845, and I don't see anything different with what I have other than the converter is in the plug and not inline. Where an I going wrong:confused24:? Thanks Steve