Uh oh, look what I started...
The harley livewire thing is actually pretty interesting. HD spun Livewire off as a standalone company, rumor has it someone thought it didn't fit the HD "image" and would turn off their loyal customer base. Well lo & behold, Harley now sells a Harley branded Livewire and I've seen two in the last week on the streets. Perhaps common sense prevailed and they realized growing their loyal customer base with a variety of offerings is how to grow a business.
I actually talked to a youngster over the summer who was on one, charging it at the nearby grocery store's charging station. I would say he was mid-20's and he could not stop grinning ear-ear as he raved about how much fun it was. He said he could get 140-160 miles range, depending on where/how he was riding. Its sport bike ergonomics is definitely not for me, but when he zipped away with nothing more than a Jetson's like whir, I was in lustful awe. I will plead the 5th on any immediate weiner proportion changes that may have occurred.