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With electric bikes they could play artificial Harley clatter through headsets in their helmet and not desturb anyone around them. But I guess that kinda defeats the purpose of feeling like your impressing people around you .

Took a long weekend and Lisa and I went to VA Beach. I thought the sunrise this morning was too beautiful NOT to share.

But if only they can hear it, it doesn't make their wiener look bigger.

I guarantee you the Harley EV's will have something that plays Potato, Potato, Potato at red lights and is louder than thunder when going thru the gears based on your RPM's. LOL,,, ▶️ Motorcycle Sound Effect. Harley Davidson Cruising. Motorcycle White Noise. 12 Hours. 🌏 - YouTube

I have a feeling Yamaha, Honda and Kawasaki are just taking a few years of hiatus in terms of manufacturing large touring bikes. Large Jap bikes will come back no matter what, because I see that there is always a market for it. I know for now, we don't see much that is why I am holding on to my '07 and '18. These bikes continue to put a smile on my face.

There is no such thing as 'clean' energy, be it wind, solar, lithium batteries, etc. Ok, maybe nuclear energy. I wasn't aware there were hybrid motorcycles out there. Personally, those are not as interesting to me as pure electric. If I still have to maintain an ICE, I'd rather just stick to what we currently know and love.

100% agree on to each his own...pursuit of life, liberty and happiness (choice of motorcycle) and all that. Unless we are talking about the "rebel" who lives near me with extremely loud (illegal) pipes who infringes on (pisses off) the entire neighborhood's pursuit of happiness (sleep) at 5am. Then no. I will fight for you to ride whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want, until you wake me up at 5am, then its a different ball game. If noise is your thing, fine, keep it within the legal limits, respect everyone's else rights and we'll all get along just fine. Like I said, I'm not interested in electric bikes for the "green" aspect. Its just cool new tech that intrigues me personally for a variety of reasons. Not for everyone, I understand. BTW, Harley now has an electric bike in their lineup. You can probably put a bluetooth speaker on and ride around playing Billy Idol's 'Rebel Yell" at full volume at 5am and still piss off all the neighbors... ;-)

A Hybrid is a different story compared to all Electric. The hybrid is what @cowpuc is advocating and could be a good option for big cruisers and tourers. All electric, at this time, is just not an option unless you live in a urbanized area and your travel radius is 20 miles. As a side note, anyone who is against coal should be against lithium batteries. also, they should be against Solar power that stores excess energy in batteries. Lithium Mining in the U.S.: Why is it Controversial? | EnergySage

Mom Yam did read my list and followed it pretty well.. She just did the opposite of what I, and many other members suggested LOL.. check this out: 1700cc V-4 "V-Max" motor.. Detune it if you must (just like before) but please,, dont do another V-Twin - got enough of em.. You guys can do it,, I KNOW YOU CAN!! but everyone knows the modern rider wants the pleasure of no hp, good vibes and feeling the burn as they ride.. get with it man! Shaft drive! BELT's wear out and we can make a few bucks for replacements, we are in the business to make money on part sales.. EFI with a tunable tuner - even if its an add on - please provide one so we can tune it!! no chance Engine guarding. but then the rider who LOVES heat couldn't get it what he loves. Adjustable bars like on the first gen. no no no,, those adjustable bars on the MK1/2's were a big mistake. we actually lost money on the loss of handle bar sales for that mistake. Fixed Fairing. here ya go Puc,, just for you!! THAT IS ONE COOL FRONT END FOLKS!! Imagine those intakes on the front feeding a 175 hp COMPETITION DESTROYER!! good night that woulda been AWESOME! Get the same Doctors who advised you on constructing the seat of the 1st Gens (cant remember what you call those guys) to advise you on this one - my kids, wife and I LOVE what they did!! Keep the seat height difference between the rider and passenger no more than 3 inches (2 is great) - raising the passenger higher causes weight imbalance and makes slow speed riding harder. how bout we make this one a 1000 pounder instead Ease of removal of the trunk(s) for changing rear tire. we are suppose to make it HARDER for you to work on it, not easier.. Center stand. what,, that is wayyy to old school for the modern rider. Forward boards with normal foot pegs located rearward so standing up while riding is still possible, shift and brake levers at both locations (no heal toe please). the modern day rider has no interest in learning how easy it is to handle a bike because their standing up. Grease zerks on all main pivot points. Puc is crazy, no one wants to lay down and grease/pull maintenance anymore. Explore which tire sizes are the most common and build around those standards so tire choices and finding them are easy. This was a real good one! One that I actually spoke with the Yam reps at Sturgis about when I noticed the odd size rear tire on the back of the new Venture. I asked why Mom Yam did not stick with a more traditional tire size, something that would give the rider more choices in tires, not less.. They just shrugged me off. I did have that same Rep look up the price and choices of current tires at that time for the tire size Mom Yam had chosen. There was only ONE tire available at the time and that tire was listed at over $500!!! Honestly,, the rear wheel itself was CHEAPER than the tire! Made my point in asking for this in my wish list.. Enclose the motor well to keep ANY objectional heat off both riders BUT - use lots of venting with plenums to act as heaters when needed. what,, dont you know,,, modern cross country touring riders would rather look good showing off the motors while being burned than being comfortable while riding or stuck in traffic.

Checked grounds and everything checks out. Checked Blinker fluid and it was full Taking it to a shop in a week , could be the blinker box, but unsure and maybe they can isolate it better then I can.