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Wait a minute Ben, (You OLD Goat!) You ARE OLD! Older than I am anyway! I wouldn't wish this "Oldness Thing" on my worst enemy! After I work all week, then spend all day Saturday in the shop, I end up spending all day Sunday hobbling around in the house in my "Snoopy PJ's" Getting old SUCKS! Earl

You got my vote. I think we are just going in circles now.

Nice dialogue guys. what you say we now close this thread. So far it will be up to the dialoguers, and I am mostly a dialoguee.

I have been told I am a pretty good whistler even by total strangers in passing. However I do not know if I spit when I whistle as I try not to whistle into the wind.

@uncledj says, "The point(s) I was thinking of were that the mask Nazis use emotion, demonization to manipulate." Mysterious words bordering on accusation. I have done none of the above of which you imply. @uncledj says, "They are prone to embellish, or misinform, while screaming that those they disagree with are putting out misinformation...." Again more mysterious words bordering on accusation without forthright doing it. BTW, the ones so far that are mis-informing everyone, are the ones that have presented their "proof" to me, and I have dispelled that mis-information. @uncledj says, "They like to imply or directly accuse those who resist the mask or jab of being outright stupid,....which is absolutely not the case." Again, more round-about general accusation. I have pointed out errors in some posters own documents and presented mine in addition. I have accused not a single person, by general accusation or inuendo as a group, or by directly stating to any person that they are stupid. Period. @uncledj says, "We simply have reviewed the info and choose to decide for ourselves." And therein is my concern, because I don’t feel, given the arguments I have been given here, with the documentation provided by opposing posters of the Covid Vaccination, that any serious review of the Vaccination data...has happened at all. I feel if you were in San Angelo, and had given the data any serious accredited medical peer review, at all, that you may not feel the way you do. I feel if you gave the data any review at all from balanced sources you would voluntarily CHOOSE to get a Covid Vaccination. @uncledj says, "We choose what to allow into our bodies and what risk level to accept, whether that risk is of contracting covid, or dealing with the spike protein effects of this non-vaccine vaccine." Okey dokey. But you still have not pointed out any points that I have previously missed in conversation with anybody. In closing, VENTURERIDER.ORG I bet is a more well seasoned group than most. Why have you folks that have chosen to not get a Covid vaccine, have no problem with any other vaccine, like Shingles? The Covid Vaccine has been given over FIVE-BILLION times around the World (and counting) and carries extremely minimal risks for the benefit it provides to yourself and others. Since it is FREE it is the lowest cost insurance with the greatest payoff. At least I will get to watch some Football Glad to hear your 2nd Mom is doing better. Please go get a covid vaccination for you and others. Thank You.

The vent was in the wall ceiling height at one end of the board table so those at the far end from the vent got it while those at the end near the vent did not. The infected person was apparently sitting somewhere midway along the board table. I am a big time pretty constant whistler and quite often whistle without being aware that I am doing it. There have been a few occasions were I have been asked not to whistle by individuals who fear that if I were symptomatic that my whistling might spread the virus should I unknowingly be infected. Whether or not there is any truth to this I do not know, and though I was pretty sure I had no virus to share. I guess I could have dug my heels in and stated there is no proof of that plus it is my personal right to whistle if I want but instead out of respect for their concerns, I no longer whistle accept when I am alone. The way I saw it, it was no skin off my nose, to refrain from whistling while at the same time it put the other persons at ease and avoided a go nowhere conflict, at the same time.

Hello everyone, I just bought a 2008 Royal Star Venture and I’ll appreciate getting maintenance tips as the years go by. My other bike is a ‘06 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Classic. Both are great bikes but entirely different to ride. I’m super excited about having the Venture … Rode for 100+ miles yesterday …Going for another ride now. Thanks for bringing me on board. Cheers

Just because it hasn’t been said does not mean it’s not there. The fact is the issue has been and needs to be approached without emotion and dispassionately. Emotions thrown in always tend to cause people to make decisions based on the emotion and not reason or logic. And before you say anything else, yes my step father is in the hospital with covid. My mom had it 3 months ago and recovered at age 77. My step father is 69 and otherwise healthy except being overweight. He was on a ventilator for 6 days and they took him off yesterday. He’s doing well. I mention this only because I DO feel, but feelings don’t rule over my decisions or actions.

I get all that, I also agree vaccines are not the perfect answer neither are masks or distancing but each one hopefully adds an additional layer of protection. Is it 100% ? Of course not. but what would the outcome be if we did nothing at all. If we don't do anything and just stand back and say this too shall pass, What if it doesn't ? Should we not at least make an effort to do what we can to curb this thing. Governments are flawed and so are scientists at times ( the word OOPS comes to mind ). If we cannot trust them with all their faults to get us through this who do we trust. The internet educated person, the one who listens to whispers or gossip the one who draws their own conclusions and proceeds to educate the world with home grown theories ? Maybe some of them are right I don't know. but so far as I can see every little added layer seems to be helping. Back in the beginning when nothing or very little was done the numbers were spreading like an out of control bush fire now at least things are getting a little closer to becoming some what manageable. for how long or until the next variant, who knows but I do believe efforts need to be made. why should we care how it compares to other illness's. An illness is an illness big or small and defeating it should be our common goal.

And if we don’t know it we can make it sound good with a few big words.

There's two sides to that coin. If someone gets the jab and has complications...side effects...or possibly life changing results or even death....who pays for that? Especially if they've already had covid and have the anti bodies in their system that are statistically much more effective than the "vaccine"...

Another thing to think about: The Virus COVID19/SARS-COV-2 is a respiratory virus. Every Scientist confirms this from both sides of the mask isle. There is a split on the vaccine too. Again not quite 50-50 but close. The media and the Bureaucracies of the CDC and WHO are pushing the Vaccine to eliminate this Virus. On the other side Science says that you cannot make a respiratory virus go away through vaccination as you would say small pox or the mumps. If you need proof of this look at the common cold and more specifically influenza. They have been vaccinating like crazy for influenza for ~60 years, since roughly 1960. does influenza still exists and kill 80k-120k annually in the US alone? Respiratory Virus' mutate in the wild, it is their nature. They saddest part of all of this craziness is that this Virus is man made.

Some of you may have followed my effort to sell my Goldwing, after it sold I wondered what I would do to fill the void , well about a month ago I figured it out and went and bought this, just spent the whole day washing , clay baring and waxing it. Certainly gave me something to do and it is fun to drive. I am sticking around monitoring the forums, hoping I can still be of help from time to time.

“Peeing” analogy is not accurate by any metric. This one is accurate: Your shorts and trousers do not stop a fart from spreading at all. And yet a scent molecule is far far larger than a virus. Its like trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence. Now THAT is real smart.

Probably because both the CDC and WHO released documentation in May of 2020 stating healthy people should 'not' wear a mask. There are equal amounts of research on both sides of this and I personally know a microbiologist who was shut down and threatened that he would lose his grants if he did not fall in line. This guy was on the front line of AIDS when it first came out and helped develop some of the meds used today. I think he qualifies as an expert in this area of Science. Remember that SCIENCE it supposed to be objective. What the CDC, WHO and other government Bureaucracies are doing is not based on SCIENCE. It is based on fear and control with THEORIES that fit the agenda. OK leaders I'm ready for my time out.

I've seen some newer openers that are activated by using an app on your smartphone. I thought that was pretty slick if you ride with your phone in a cradle.