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If my memory serves me correctly the splash plate update came out first with no wire. I updated my very first MK1 back in 87 and I dont think the swosh wire was included. By the time I had gone thru that new stator in that 1st one though the wire addition had come out. I am almost positive the wire was added to keep the orfice that the oil squirts thru from the crank open and clean..

HE HAS RISEN INDEED!! HAPPIEST OF EASTERS TO ALL!!

I also believe part of the problem is often an affliction known as flat surface syndrome. You can usually spot the ones with this condition by the Christmas trees they ride and can be spotted light years down the road. Fortunately for the severely afflicted, technology has developed a treatment to help minimize the side effects of this condition ( warning this is not a cure for those afflicted as they are usually afflicted for life ) . Its called LED and it works by lowering the demand on the stater. Less demand equals less heat build up equals improved chances for the stater to survive flat surface syndrome.

30 pounds of chocolate later somebody come pick up my kids! Took them on a 4 mile bike ride and they are still bouncing off the walls. Why do the same grand parents that told us that one bunny and a couple of eggs were quite enough suddenly have the strange desire to give their grandkids their own weight in chocolate! Good thing i was in charge of hiding the eggs otherwise those kids would have found everything! Now theres 20 pounds of chocolate hidden in the back of the freezer under the frozen veggies good luck finding those eggs kids! God bless you folks and happy Easter!

Happy Easter to All!

It may not be long before 'Easter' arrives for those who have gone on before. Blessings!!!!

Happy Easter to all from Phantom Wife and myself!!!!!

Happy Resurrection Day to all of youse!

It's nice to see the Bunny hasn't been troubled by covid! Happy Easter Mr. Bunny! And to all of you as well.... D

How does that kit work? I see how the stator plate and the cover change the oil clearances but what is the purpose of the wire? Keep in mind i haven't had any coffee yet so maybe it will make sense after an IV of java

Mama Yama failed miserably with this bike. What did they expect? It's not a Vtwin vs Vfour issue at all. The biggest problem I have heard from other riders is that it looks like tupperware on 2 wheels. And misplaced tupperware to boot. I for one, wished that they tweeked the 2nd with some modern electrics, and put a fuel injected Vtwin power plant in it, water cooled or not, to get the weight down low in the frame. Add abs brakes and revamped suspension. Make the tourpack quick detach so it could be ridden at lighter feel when one up . also have the option to put a quick detach sissybar for around town 2 up riding. And make the saddlebags quick detach for easier tire valve stem access./rear tire& exhaust work. It's kind of funny, I have had this wish list for the 2nd gen for years and now "my new to me" 2016 Indian Roadmaster has everyone of those features and more. It's most likely the last bike I will own until I hang up my helmet. No wonder Indian's sales are growing rapidly, HD's are stagnant at best and Mama Yama's are failing.

Hey come on .... its not that bad..... for the past year now you have been able to see the floor.

Hey Cowpuc, I apologize in advance if I take this thread a bit off topic but I wanted to touch on the extent I went to, to try and solve this issue with the overheating stators. I actually machined ONE "modified" stator cover from 6061 T6 Aluminum Billet. It increased the oil volume in the pan by 1.1 quarts and moved the face of the stator cover almost 2 inches away from the stator. It worked great and allowed me to put a stator that came close to 100 amps of output in my 87'VR! You would think that this would be a win/win for the First Gens. Heck, you could run a Toaster Oven on your bike if you wanted to! Well the problem was that cover machined from billet would cost $800.00 (MY cost for material and machine time) not to mention the 100 amp stator was another $250.00. (again, actual cost) Historically speaking, I have found that First Gen. owners are a bit "light in the pocketbook" when it comes to spending money on parts for their bikes. After the excitement of solving the issue wore off, I found myself wondering how many First Gen. owners would actually spring for a $1200. stator upgrade. Of course the answer was "NOT Many"! So the tooling and fixture went into a box I have set aside for projects that I would NEVER be able to sell to the general population of First Gen. owners, and I stopped getting High Output stators wound by my local vendor. I went to a lot of trouble to offer a solution to the low amperage stator offered by Yamaha, only to find out that there is no way I could sell the darn things! I now fully understand why Yamaha puts such a wimpy stator in our bikes. I wanted to share this info with the community, and to let you know how much this broke my heart NOT to be able to offer this upgrade to solve this issue. Rant over, now back to your regularly scheduled programming! Earl

It'll be a while, I've seen his garage. Trying to find a small wire thingie in his drawers will be a feat!!

There is also a kit that you can install that results in more oil spilling over the stater to help cool it. I may be able to dig up the part number later for you as I have one in my garage somewhere just need to remember which drawer it is in.

I could put some coffee on and then we can chew the fat.