juggler Posted September 4, 2008 #1 Posted September 4, 2008 This spring I bought Black Owl's custom built trailer and we pulled it for the first time to and from Pork in the Pines. Its a custom frame (don't know which brand) and a Sears car top carrier. The 15 CUFT version kinda like this one [/url]http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02872016000P). I was impressed at how well it handled especially in the strong winds we had. It pulled easy. No swaying caused by the wind. I felt it in first and second gear, but after that there was no sense of having a trailer behind me. Except when we hit a really big dip in the road then I felt an extra yank on the bike. When we got home I weighed the trailer. (yeah I know, I should have check the weights BEFORE leaving.) The trailers total weight loaded with all of our gear and our tiny little tent (see PiP 2008 Pics) came in at 370 pounds. The tongue weight was 33 pounds. I will have to look into the way we packed that little beast to possibly lower the tongue weight. Maybe move the spare tire further back. Someday I hope to build a new body that looks good and is still functional and light weight.
Gold Rush Posted September 4, 2008 #2 Posted September 4, 2008 Hey Jugger, Your hitch weight is actually just a tad light -- not heavy.... :whistling: The general rule is 10 to 12.5 percent of the total trailer weight needs to be carried on the hitch. If you get that hitch weight too light the trailer will get really squirely and that could spell disaster. Even though you are a few pound shy of that magic 10% you might be OK.. From what you said it seemed to pull good..... :thumbsup2:
gunboat Posted September 4, 2008 #3 Posted September 4, 2008 hi juggler i belive that's about right for the toung weight. i've seen 35-40 some were in the threads. when i pulled my trailer to '08 int. rally for the first time. like you i realy didn't notice it being back there. best reguards don c.
BradT Posted September 5, 2008 #4 Posted September 5, 2008 I too was gonna say that would be about right if not add a little more weight. You will know it if it is too light. It will be all over the road. This will have a lot to do with how you pack the trailer, so if it wobbles stop and redistribute the weight. Congrats on the purchase. Mr. OWL had pictures on here of it a long time ago back when he built it, but i still do not think anyone ever saw his bike. Brad
Guest Ken8143 Posted September 5, 2008 #5 Posted September 5, 2008 same thought about tongue weight. Too light can be disasterous - that weave and wobble will do terrible things to you
juggler Posted September 5, 2008 Author #6 Posted September 5, 2008 I think my misunderstanding was that I thought the tongue weight was supposed to be 10 to 15 pounds.
dynodon Posted September 5, 2008 #7 Posted September 5, 2008 10% of total trailer weight (trailer AND load) is the generally accepted figure. If you are within a few pounds either way, you are OK. DO NOT lighten the weight from where you have it! Also, make sure your load can't shift when riding. The trailer should be slightly "downhill" so if the load moves, it puts MORE weight on the tongue not less, but it is best if you load so it can't shift. Use empty boxes if necessary to keep things from moving around. Be sure to check the wheel lug nuts and wheel bearings before every ride, and it is a VERY good practice to feel the tires and wheel bearings at EVERY stop. Tires, even in the summer should be warm, but not too hot to touch. Same with Bearings. IN cool weather, bearings should have no or little heat. Too hot to touch means not enough grease, bearing going bad, or adjusted too tight or too loose. While you are at it, touch the tires on the bike every stop too, it can tell you a lot. This is why you will see good truck drivers going around their vehicle touching things, and banging on the tires (to check for pressure) at each stop. Safety first.
Christo Posted September 11, 2008 #9 Posted September 11, 2008 I got this off of Amazon. Berkley Digital Fish Scale. Up to 50LBS, it works perfect. Inexpensive, small, digital, I love it. $18 [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Berkley-lb-Digital-Fish-Scale/dp/B000E7UJTG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1221166988&sr=8-1]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31NJ5K92B8L._SL500_AA280_.jpg[/ame] [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Berkley-lb-Digital-Fish-Scale/dp/B000E7UJTG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1221166988&sr=8-1]FishScale[/ame]
Brake Pad Posted October 22, 2008 #10 Posted October 22, 2008 Okay, Here's the stupit question, How do you know, How much you put in the trailer, to be able to weigh it? for tong weight? I just load my trailer, with Ice chest just forward of the wheels and load all her suit cases infront of that, then I load my one travel bag, on top of the Ice chest, add fold up chairs in the back of the Ice chest:rain2:
Freebird Posted October 22, 2008 #11 Posted October 22, 2008 I pretty much just do it by feel but I've heard some people say that they use a fish scale.
Brake Pad Posted October 22, 2008 #12 Posted October 22, 2008 I pretty much just do it by feel but I've heard some people say that they use a fish scale. Okay, I'll go for the feel part.
skydoc_17 Posted October 22, 2008 #13 Posted October 22, 2008 I know this is gonna sound a little anal but when I first started towing a trailer with our old bike (86' VR) I would stand on a bathroom scale, and Jean would hand all of the items that were going in the trailer to me. We subtracted my body weight and kept a running total of all of the items. After we did this a few times we noticed the weight didn't change much, plus or minus 10 or 15 pounds because we usually carried the same stuff every time. I was even able to weigh the tounge using this method. Oh, by the way a trip to the local recycling center and a few bucks got me the weight of the trailer, empty. They had a really nice, big scale there and were happy to help. Tow Safe, Earl and Jean
juggler Posted October 22, 2008 Author #14 Posted October 22, 2008 Actually I did use the bathroom scale. Take the scale out to the garage and weigh each wheel separately then rest the tongue on the scale and get that weight. when you add all three together you get total weight.
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