az1103 Posted August 13, 2008 #1 Posted August 13, 2008 OK folks, who out there has installed a 3000 on an RSV and what do you think of it. Any noticeable difference? How does it affect power and mpg? And key question, is it worth the money?
hhoffmanlv Posted August 13, 2008 #2 Posted August 13, 2008 I put the Dyna on my 06 RSVM. I am very happy with it. I was always bumping the limiter, with the Dyna I can 'get on it' and not hit the wall. I also like the 'power curve' advance versus stock. At 2k rpm it starts to get agressive, which feels 'right' to me. I found no change in mpg and would do it again. I run Curve 3 and only bumped the limiter to 7500. Hope this helped.
Freebird Posted August 13, 2008 #3 Posted August 13, 2008 I agree and would have said it pretty much the same way.
boominup Posted August 13, 2008 #4 Posted August 13, 2008 Hi Freebird, At the moment, I'm at curve 4 with the revs set at 8000. I've noticed a pretty good difference just below midrange on up to the RL. I held it in 3rd gear one good day and hung on till I saw 103 mph on the speedo without bumping the RL!! I'm not up there in that territory very often but it's nice to know what you've got when you need it. I love that 3rd gear now! Some folks warned me about pinging on curve 4 but I really have to lug it hard from standstill to make it ping riding 2 up. I've corrected that by blending the 87 octane with 89 midrange octane every other tankfull. No pinging. If I notice any future pinging, I'll just back her down to curve 3. BTW, fuel mileage has dropped a bit but the grin factor has doubled. I guess the two go hand in hand. Brian:)
Bummer Posted August 13, 2008 #5 Posted August 13, 2008 Hi Freebird, At the moment, I'm at curve 4 with the revs set at 8000. I've noticed a pretty good difference just below midrange on up to the RL. I held it in 3rd gear one good day and hung on till I saw 103 mph on the speedo without bumping the RL!! I'm not up there in that territory very often but it's nice to know what you've got when you need it. I love that 3rd gear now! Some folks warned me about pinging on curve 4 but I really have to lug it hard from standstill to make it ping riding 2 up. I've corrected that by blending the 87 octane with 89 midrange octane every other tankfull. No pinging. If I notice any future pinging, I'll just back her down to curve 3. BTW, fuel mileage has dropped a bit but the grin factor has doubled. I guess the two go hand in hand. Brian:) I'm kind of wondering about that 8k red line. I'm under the impression that somewhere above 7.5k you can see some valve float because of the softer springs. I don't know this for certain, but I kept mine at 7250 just in case. Power seems to flatten around 7k anyway.
boominup Posted August 13, 2008 #6 Posted August 13, 2008 Negatory on any valve float. I sure wouldn't want to spin it any higher than that but I've bumped the limiter a couple of times and and it just keeps pulling. It flattened out with the stock box but it sure doesn't now. Like I said, I'm not living up there but it's there if I need it. My 1st gen would rev to over 8500 rpms and it never had any ill effects from it. I've had the box installed for 10 mos. and I've only hit the RL 2 or 3 times that I can remember. This is a touring bike, not a modified street racer. Brian
Freebird Posted August 14, 2008 #7 Posted August 14, 2008 It's the valve springs that bother me also. That is why I have mine at 7500. Dyna recommends no higher than that...in fact...it may be 7250 that the recommend. They say to go no higher unless you install the VMAX springs. I think I'll just play it safe.
ColoNavy Posted August 14, 2008 #8 Posted August 14, 2008 I went to their web site but the links aren't working for some reason. How hard is it to install?
waterbug Posted August 14, 2008 #9 Posted August 14, 2008 Not to sound like a idiot but I have no clue what a dyna 3000 is can someone please tell me????
Bummer Posted August 14, 2008 #10 Posted August 14, 2008 The Dyna 3000 is a performance electronic ignition module. You can set your ignition advance curve and rev limiter.
Bummer Posted August 14, 2008 #11 Posted August 14, 2008 I went to their web site but the links aren't working for some reason. How hard is it to install?There's a link to one source in my previous post to waterbug. It's not hard, but it's under the seat and battery, so those things come off/out. The battery box has to come out. Seems like there's a small amount of head standing inside the middle of the bike (it's been a couple of years). Be sure to set it where you want it before you install it. It's just a couple hours of tinkering, really.
lockdoc Posted August 14, 2008 #12 Posted August 14, 2008 I used to have a '97 royal star tour deluxe which I purchased second hand about six years ago. I did the "big foot" airbox mod, dyna3000, vmax cams and springs and a vmax rear diff. It revved so well to 8,000 rpm I didn't need 4th or 5th gears any more. I could have saved myself some effort and I did anyway and bought myself an '04 Venture with all the power I need for this type of machine.
Bummer Posted August 14, 2008 #13 Posted August 14, 2008 I think I'll just play it safe. My philosophy exactly. Though I do want those springs. Some day.
pegscraper Posted August 14, 2008 #14 Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) These things are equivalent to a distributor in an old car. You can play around with the spark advance. I used to run curve 5 and 8000 rpms. A while back I advanced the pickup coil 4* against the rotor, at which time I went back down to curve 4. Still at eight grand though. With VMX cams and springs, that eight grand comes up real fast too. Edited August 14, 2008 by pegscraper
Bummer Posted August 14, 2008 #15 Posted August 14, 2008 ... with all the power I need for this type of machine.Need? This hasn't really been about need in a long time.
pegscraper Posted August 14, 2008 #16 Posted August 14, 2008 If it were about need, we wouldn't be riding anything any more advanced than what was available in the 1950s. A bike with 55 year old technology will get you around. What more do you need? In fact, HDs live by this very philosophy.
PBJ Posted August 14, 2008 #17 Posted August 14, 2008 All that money and all that time just to make a 2nd gen run like a 1st Gen?!?
Bummer Posted August 14, 2008 #18 Posted August 14, 2008 All that money and all that time just to make a 2nd gen run like a 1st Gen?!? Yep. But it'll look like a second gen. And it'll be more than 20 years newer. I'll see your and raise you :witch_brew:.
Bobby G Posted February 2, 2011 #19 Posted February 2, 2011 Resurrecting this old thread to ask a question: If you are happy with your current performance, not bumping the rev limiter, and have no other ignition issues, is there any advantage in replacing the stock ignition with the Dyna 3000 that everyone seems to be so pleased with? Will upgrading to this product improve gas milage, or help the plugs perform better in any way? I seriously don't know if it's worth spending $215 on this or not. Thanks.
Freebird Posted February 2, 2011 #20 Posted February 2, 2011 No, I don't think so. You get no benefits, in my opinion, other than the ability to raise the rev limiter. If you never hit the rev limiter, I wouldn't bother. To be honest, the only reason I added it was because I got a great deal on a used one.
V7Goose Posted February 2, 2011 #21 Posted February 2, 2011 IMHO, there is absolutely no advantage in the situation you describe (happy with the stock). In fact, I find the stock performance of this machine just about perfect when ridden correctly. But everyone gets to have their own opinion, right? Goose
SilvrT Posted February 2, 2011 #23 Posted February 2, 2011 Negatory on any valve float. I sure wouldn't want to spin it any higher than that but I've bumped the limiter a couple of times and and it just keeps pulling. It flattened out with the stock box but it sure doesn't now. Like I said, I'm not living up there but it's there if I need it. My 1st gen would rev to over 8500 rpms and it never had any ill effects from it. I've had the box installed for 10 mos. and I've only hit the RL 2 or 3 times that I can remember. This is a touring bike, not a modified street racer. Brian The above is a tad funny considering what you guys are discussing...
Condor Posted February 2, 2011 #24 Posted February 2, 2011 OK, let's throw some more fuel on the fire. From a performance standpoint, what would be a better up grade, the Dyna 3000.... or freeflow intake filters and aftermarket straight thru exhaust??
Freebird Posted February 2, 2011 #25 Posted February 2, 2011 Neither...in my opinion...the best thing would be the VMAX rear end.
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