frogmaster Posted July 21, 2008 #1 Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) Any Edited September 23, 2009 by frogmaster
Leadwolf56 Posted July 21, 2008 #2 Posted July 21, 2008 Any word if 2009 Venturer will be EFI? I am holding out on purchasing Touring Deluxe Venture until I can get EFI. Thanks One of my wife's patients at the clinic last week was from our dealer here in town. They got to talking about the 2009 and he said that they had heard it is supposed to have EFI.
GeorgeS Posted July 21, 2008 #3 Posted July 21, 2008 IF--- there is one, and If it has the same engine as the New V-Max ( likley de tuned ) then it most likely fuel injected, same as the New V-Max. The New Max, has , 127 Ft. Lb. of Torque. Research the new Max, there is quite a bit of Information concerning it on the Web allready. Google: " 2009 V-Max " Several hits there.
Squidley Posted July 21, 2008 #4 Posted July 21, 2008 Unless the '09 RSV is totally redesigned with the new Vmax motor I wouldn't count on it. They aren't going to spend the money on FI on a platform that will be going away. If it's the same bike as my '08....I'll say no
gibvel Posted July 21, 2008 #5 Posted July 21, 2008 Dealer I was at said, if there is one, it will be unchanged except for color. Obviously, it's a crap shoot!
Newfie Bill Posted July 21, 2008 #6 Posted July 21, 2008 Hi Guys, From what I have heard at our dealer, and from what I've read on the net, there won't be an 2009 model except for in Europe (which will be left over 2008's). According to, there is a Generation 3 on the board which will have the new 1700cc engine and it will be fuel injected. It would be fantastic, I have the 99, which I have enjoyed, but I'm holding out for the redesign, which will come sooner then later I'm sure. "Come on 2010!":cool10: Newfie Bill 1999 RS Venture.
pegscraper Posted July 21, 2008 #7 Posted July 21, 2008 What is so terrible about carburetors? Is it really so awful to have to manually operate a choke?
V7Goose Posted July 21, 2008 #8 Posted July 21, 2008 Absolutely no way they are going to put any significant design changes into that 10 year old platform. The factory reps I spoke with in Canada didn't claim to have all the answers - in particular, they were not sure when the new design was going to be released, but they did seem pretty certain that the only change we would likely see in 2009 was possibly something to make MP3 connection easier. Goose
WilCruise Posted July 21, 2008 #9 Posted July 21, 2008 Unless the '09 RSV is totally redesigned with the new Vmax motor I wouldn't count on it. They aren't going to spend the money on FI on a platform that will be going away. If it's the same bike as my '08....I'll say no Agree - At the rally when the Yama gang was there I kept badgering on e of them and he implied that any change in the Venture would likely not show up until sometime around Fall of 2010.
CrazyHorse Posted July 21, 2008 #10 Posted July 21, 2008 IF--- there is one, and If it has the same engine as the New V-Max ( likley de tuned ) then it most likely fuel injected, same as the New V-Max. The New Max, has , 127 Ft. Lb. of Torque. Research the new Max, there is quite a bit of Information concerning it on the Web allready. Google: " 2009 V-Max " Several hits there. I have to agree if there is one. I have a feeling its going to be a redesign maybe a Victory Vision looking bike.
yamahamer Posted July 21, 2008 #11 Posted July 21, 2008 the local dealer I deal with says there is no order forms for a 09 venture or tour deluxe. I don't think we will see anything until may or june 09 the way they did the max.
Sleeperhawk Posted July 21, 2008 #12 Posted July 21, 2008 My source says 09 is more of the same, 2010 a new package. They also said Yamaha will not discontinue the bike like they did the VMAX, they still believe the 09 model will be a money maker. So take this all with a mug of beer.
Squeeze Posted July 21, 2008 #13 Posted July 21, 2008 My source says 09 is more of the same, 2010 a new package. They also said Yamaha will not discontinue the bike like they did the VMAX, they still believe the 09 model will be a money maker. So take this all with a mug of beer. If so, this sure would qualify the 3Gen for a complete new Design in the Line of 1Gen/Gold Wing. Maybe the Sketches from the Yammi Patents a Year ago weren't that wrong ....
nelsonrl Posted July 21, 2008 #14 Posted July 21, 2008 Well, the guy at the grocery store said that his third cousin knew someone who's ex-sister-in-law knew someone who used to ride a bicycle to work and they said yes, it would definitelly have EFI or carbs - one or the other.
Freebird Posted July 21, 2008 #16 Posted July 21, 2008 If so, this sure would qualify the 3Gen for a complete new Design in the Line of 1Gen/Gold Wing. Maybe the Sketches from the Yammi Patents a Year ago weren't that wrong .... Well I tell you, I've been riding the '99 since May of '99. I am FINALLY getting somewhat in the mood for a new bike but am waiting to get some idea of what Yamaha does. I am really hoping for some version of the VMAX engine in a new Venture but I also love the cruiser styling. If they go with the first gen or Goldwing style then that will eliminate the Venture from my list. That will leave me with only a couple of choices. The Harley Ultra (if they do something about the heat problem) or possibly the Triumph Rocket III touring (if they would finish the job and add the trunk, fairing, etc.)
ken Posted July 21, 2008 #17 Posted July 21, 2008 Well I tell you, I've been riding the '99 since May of '99. I am FINALLY getting somewhat in the mood for a new bike but am waiting to get some idea of what Yamaha does. I am really hoping for some version of the VMAX engine in a new Venture but I also love the cruiser styling. If they go with the first gen or Goldwing style then that will eliminate the Venture from my list. That will leave me with only a couple of choices. The Harley Ultra (if they do something about the heat problem) or possibly the Triumph Rocket III touring (if they would finish the job and add the trunk, fairing, etc.) Freebird I have an 2008 Ultra. I've logged almost 5000 miles so far this year. At first I really did not like it after having an 2005 RSV, but it's really starting to grow on me. I have noticed no heat problems. The fairing has vents that open on the front and down at the legs. I've sat in traffic 90 degree weather with no problems. I think the new 96" has just has much if not more get up and go as the RSV 2nd gen. One down side is theres not as much room in the saddle as the RSV. I'm not that far from you feel free to stop up and take it for a spin. I really think you'll be very impressed. Oh ya the CD player beats the heck out of that old tape player. Its also nice to have a dash full of gages to see what your bike is doing. Stop up anytime.
Tombo Posted July 22, 2008 #18 Posted July 22, 2008 I have a 2003 Ultra and just added the H-D heat shields and they seem to help when sitting in rush hour traffic in the 90+ weather we have been having. The Ultra seems to handle a little better in town due to the lower center of gravity and shorter wheelbase, but I do notice the lack of leg room and I have a 30" inseam. The RSV definitely is more comfortable for long distance cruising. Ride on...
hig4s Posted July 22, 2008 #19 Posted July 22, 2008 The Venture has carburetors, all politicians lie, and Elvis is dead. Just things you have to learn to live with.
kansan29 Posted July 22, 2008 #20 Posted July 22, 2008 First post so I hope I'm not intruding. Have a "07 RSTD and love it except for that damned gear whine. Anyway, my dealer here in Kansas thinks the next generation Venture will be based on the Stratoliner platform to make it more in line with Harley Ultra. Would make sense from a competitors view. If they can keep the price in line it would be a good looking and powerful bike.
AmnChode Posted July 22, 2008 #21 Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Only thing that would do to keep it inline with the Ultra Classic, is make it a V-twin...Which, IMHO, isn't worth it. Fact of the matter is, most people who have Venture, like the V4....it is a stout engine, which has proven itself. And let's face it, to most that don't know better, our V-4 still keeps the appearence of a V-twin. I'm hoping they will keep the cruiser styling and slap the new 1700 in.... And from what I have been reading, it wouldn't take a whole lot to shoe horn the new engine in what we have now...let me explain that a little. I recently picked up a Cycle World because they had had an article on the 2009 Indian Chief that peaked my interest, But the cover bike was the V-max. In it's article they said the engine was only a 1/4 inch taller and actually 1 inch shorter, front-to-back. So to be honest, they could easily, detune it, re-place the engine mounts, and it should technically fit in a Venture, as is. Only thing you would need to do aesthetically, would be slap on the bolt-on-cooling fins and crome it out for looks...besides, crome makes it go faster But here is something the ponder:stirthepot:....What if they put the 1700 in, only slightly detune it to give it just as much, or more, power and torque as say, a Wing (150 hp, 115 lb-ft of torque sounds about right)...left the cruiser styling like we have now, but give us the amenities...like ABS, CD Player, etc. Then to top it off, keep the price lower than the Wing and UC...now there would be one helluva bike...we don't need a Gen 3....just a Gen 2.5. A plush comfortable beast, that does a 12s quarter mile with all the trimmings. Best part is, because all the research was already done for the new V-max engine, cost for R&D to implement this now on a Venture would almost be moot...Snag the ABS from one of the other bikes, slap a slim-line CD player in the dash, and maybe a digital tach/guage cluster where the tape deck door is now... I Don't know about you guys, but I would buy it in a heart beat. Pretty sure they could suck some more in from Big Red and HD, as well, with the engine... but alas, tis only a dream... Edited July 22, 2008 by AmnChode
Squeeze Posted July 22, 2008 #22 Posted July 22, 2008 Well I tell you, I've been riding the '99 since May of '99. I am FINALLY getting somewhat in the mood for a new bike but am waiting to get some idea of what Yamaha does. I am really hoping for some version of the VMAX engine in a new Venture but I also love the cruiser styling. If they go with the first gen or Goldwing style then that will eliminate the Venture from my list. That will leave me with only a couple of choices. The Harley Ultra (if they do something about the heat problem) or possibly the Triumph Rocket III touring (if they would finish the job and add the trunk, fairing, etc.) Don, i like the Look of the 2Gen, but i can't see myself buying a Cruiser Style Tourer. I'm much more into the clean Streetfighter Look and if they would bring up a 3Gen similar to the Style of a Wing or a 1Gen, i'd consider buying this Bike. Not so, if it would be a Cruiser Style. But that's just me and probably some other Guys which held up the 1Gen Flag because their personal Style. What i can see is that Yammi will second Hand the Investment in the Vmax Engine(9 Years of Development) and Bike for a new Venture Model. Because we Guys here are starving for a updated Bike, whether one would like the Style or not. The Market is there and they will never give up the big Tourers Market Niche, even when they can't keep up with the Selling of the Wing or the Ultra. But who knows how much Buyers such a high Performance Tourer will attract ? It has to be a V4 and the Vmax is a perfect Base for a new Tourer, just like the '83 1Gen was for the Vmax in '84.
KiteSquid Posted July 22, 2008 #23 Posted July 22, 2008 My crystal ball says that the 2009 RSV will be no change, except for paint and maybe a badge change.... The 2010 will have the engine from the new V-Max with a different cam. A less likely possibly is to install smaller jugs to only have 1500 CC (but it would probably be an easy swap to bring the CCs back up to 1700) The RSV WILL have EFI in 2010 and follow due to the EPA's emissions levels for motorcycles that come into effect in 2010. There is no carburated bike that will pass, with any reasonable amount of R&D funds spent, so the EFI is the way to go. There may not be a 2010 model for the RSV, kinda like what they did with the V-Max or it might be delayed a bit.....
hig4s Posted July 22, 2008 #24 Posted July 22, 2008 Only thing that would do to keep it inline with the Ultra Classic, is make it a V-twin...Which, IMHO, isn't worth it. Fact of the matter is, most people who have Venture, like the V4....it is a stout engine, which has proven itself. And let's face it, to most that don't know better, our V-4 still keeps the appearence of a V-twin. I'm hoping they will keep the cruiser styling and slap the new 1700 in.... But here is something the ponder:stirthepot:....What if they put the 1700 in, only slightly detune it to give it just as much, or more, power and torque as say, a Wing (150 hp, 115 lb-ft of torque sounds about right)...l. I personally will not buy an air cooled bike, and much prefer the V-4 to a V-twin.. Oh and Wings are rated at 118 hp, 125 lb-ft. That is at the crank, I understand it is 103hp at the rear wheel.
WilCruise Posted July 23, 2008 #25 Posted July 23, 2008 I personally will not buy an air cooled bike, and much prefer the V-4 to a V-twin... Couldn't agree more on both points!
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