a1bummer Posted April 3, 2007 #1 Posted April 3, 2007 I'm just wondering if anybody has seen this or if it's just a gimmick. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Green-Light-Trigger-YAMAHA-V-MAX-V-MAX-VMAX_W0QQitemZ160101856428QQcategoryZ34284QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
gibvel Posted April 3, 2007 #2 Posted April 3, 2007 Seen them, don't know if they work, but there's only 1 light I've ever had a problem with anyway. Now a days they seem to be going with the camera trigger lights anyway......at least on the new ones. They have problems all their own. They suck in snow and fog. Maybe someone else has used one and can comment on the effectiveness of the units.
Condor Posted April 3, 2007 #3 Posted April 3, 2007 I have one on '83#1 and am getting hung up at stop lights a lot less than '83#2, which doesn't have one, so I guess it must be doing what it claims to do???
SaltyDawg Posted April 3, 2007 #4 Posted April 3, 2007 I can't see the site from work but it sounds like it's one of those "Light Changers" If so all they are is a big magnate you put on the bottom of your MC to trip the light. But then again you have to know the right spot in the road to put your bike to trip the light anyway. I know people who swear by them, yet I don't have one and can still trip lights. They mainly work in the big cities, if you live in small town USA the lights more than likely still work on weight.
a1bummer Posted April 3, 2007 Author #5 Posted April 3, 2007 Well why can't we just put an "easy" button or something on our dash so we can change the lights at will? Just would have to make sure someone comming the other way dosen't have too maybe?
Condor Posted April 3, 2007 #6 Posted April 3, 2007 That brings up a thought.... What about those frequency emitters that change Red lights to Green?? The type the police and fire use to get thru intersections.. Didn't I see them sold somewhere?? Or was I just hallucinating again???
a1bummer Posted April 3, 2007 Author #7 Posted April 3, 2007 Holy batgadgets Batman! Where could I get one?
dray Posted April 3, 2007 #8 Posted April 3, 2007 That brings up a thought.... What about those frequency emitters that change Red lights to Green?? The type the police and fire use to get thru intersections.. Didn't I see them sold somewhere?? Or was I just hallucinating again??? will this help you in your search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_signal_preemption
Condor Posted April 3, 2007 #9 Posted April 3, 2007 Holy batgadgets Batman! Where could I get one? I was pitched by a salesman at the local Beemer shop last year when HDHTR, BuddyRich, and I dropped by to take a look at Jackets. I think?? it ran around $14 bucks... I can't even tell you if it's the one everyone is recommending as I didn't pay any attention to the brand... Just bought it and went out and zip tied it to the center stand of the scoot. Tossed the bag...
Tartan Terror Posted April 3, 2007 #10 Posted April 3, 2007 That brings up a thought.... What about those frequency emitters that change Red lights to Green?? The type the police and fire use to get thru intersections.. Didn't I see them sold somewhere?? Or was I just hallucinating again??? They do have them but it is illegal for anything but emergency vehicles to have them. Most lights use magnetic signature to change. Those changers do work. Not right away but it knows you are there.
dray Posted April 4, 2007 #11 Posted April 4, 2007 i just ran across this so i copied to paste here for ya Traffic Light Triggers(updated 1/25/06) Discussion: Daddo (DaddoCFL): Are you tired of getting stuck at traffic lights because your bike is too small to be detected by the inductive loop buried in the pavement. Traffic signal sensors are essentially metal detectors buried in the road surface. These "inductive loop" sensors are easy to spot because they have a circular, square, or diamond-shaped saw cut in the pavement just before the intersection. There is a weak radio frequency field over the coil, and a large inductive mass disturbs that field. Loop detectors are meant to pick up the presence of large masses of metal - like cars and trucks - sitting still over the detector loop. Most modern bikes don't have enough inductive material in their frames to trip the sensor, and what they have tends to be oriented vertically above the loop (making it harder to sense) so we get stuck. A powerful magnet emits a wide and powerful magnetic field that when passed over a detector loop, disturbs the loop's field, simulating the arrival of a much larger vehicle. When the control computer sees that signal, it knows someone's there, and the biker gets a green light, just like everyone else. You can spring for $14.95 for the commercially available Green Light Trigger, or you can cough up $24.95 the "New High Power" Green Light Trigger. (http://www.discountbuy.com/greenlighttrigger/solution.htm) These are small magnets that are secured to the bottom of your bike, to make it more "visible" to the magnetic field created by the traffic sensor induction loop. Fairly expensive for small magnets that admittedly don't work all of the time. There is of course a better solution. Pick up something like this at any welding supply place or order a 2" Magnetic Ground Block for $3.99 at Harbor Freight: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=43640 (If link comes up empty - try search for welding, magnets, welding ground, etc) Remove the Brass grounding bolt and toss it out (or have your ear pierced and bolt it on). I epoxyed one to the flat cross member that is under the bike, and about even with the leading edge of the battery compartment cover. I tested it out at an intersection in Downtown Oviedo that is known to ignore the presence of a bike. Bam! The light changed for me! Some Other Solutions: -- SilverBack: I have one light near me that is "iffy" sometimes it trips, sometimes not. When It doesn't, I try a trick a fellow rider passed along: Use the kill switch to stop the bike and then immediately restart it -- seems the current fluctuation of the starter motor is strong enough to trick the trip - which is basically an electronic metal detector, using a current loop to detect the large mass of metal that is a car, but often not a bike. Every time I try this, this and other lights respond. -- MCN says to get your bike over one of the buried wires and put your kickstand down - works every time according to them. -- Other folks have used strong magnets from various sources: old speaker magnets, magnets for some motors, magnets from old computer hard drives, even what is called a cow magnet available at farm supply stores (used to trap metal in cows stomachs, I guess -- don't look at me, I just report this stuff!).
timk Posted April 4, 2007 #12 Posted April 4, 2007 I use the kickstand over the cut portion of the pavement.
TEW47 Posted April 4, 2007 #13 Posted April 4, 2007 Had the green light triggers on my bike and could not tell any difference. They fell off on the road some where and I don't know where.
Jerry Cochran Posted April 5, 2007 #14 Posted April 5, 2007 You can go to Home Depot and buy one of those magnetic nail pickup tools which is used to find roofing nails on the ground after you have reshingled a house. Take the round magnet off of the handle by loosening one screw and attach it to the bottom of your bike. It is even better at getting red lights to change and it costs less the ten dollars. Ride safe!!!!
a1bummer Posted April 6, 2007 Author #15 Posted April 6, 2007 Well then, that settles it. I have tons of magnets in a box in my garage/playroom. Huge speaker magnets, harddrive magnets, COW MAGNETS, rare earth magnets, shall I keep going. What if the cow has already swallowed the magnet? Should I take her for a ride so the light will change?
Condor Posted April 6, 2007 #16 Posted April 6, 2007 What if the cow has already swallowed the magnet? Should I take her for a ride so the light will change? No, but after they've done their job you could always wrap them around the fuel line and get a 'hundred miles a gallon,.... :rotf:
a1bummer Posted April 7, 2007 Author #17 Posted April 7, 2007 I wonder how easy it would be to find them after they've done thier job?
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