Brake Problems

[mtman]

Thanks Jeremy...

Yeah, I wondered about that, so gave it a shot. I know there was a fair amount of varnish on the diaphragm I took out so I am guessing there is quite a bit in the carbs. I am hoping that lots of sea foam and a little patience might disolve some of the gunk. I am thinking that once I can get the fuel problem fixed, it will fire and I can just keep adding sea foam and clean out the system.

[mraf]

You stated earlier that the plugs did not look good. If they are old you are better off throwing them away and buying some new ones. Just buy the stock NGKs they are not really that expensive. My 83 gets hard to start occaionally and new plugs are all it needs to wake it back up.

[mtman]

Hey mraf...

 

You're right, they do need replaced. I guess I was sorta waiting to get the carb problem fixed, but then I would probably end up mad that it didn't start and a prime reason(the plugs)had not been addressed. I will see if autozone/advanced/o'riley's or ? has them.

Thanks for the reminder:doh:

Wayne

Yeah, still up reading about carb overhauls....

[mtman]

Seemed to be waiting for that train that never comes.... Kept feeding the carbs "joy juice"(sea foam and crc carb cleaner) and nothing was happening. Actually, that's not true. #1 did have some signs of moisture this morning. No drips, just looked damp. #2 was still dry as a bone. So I took a deep breath and did it. I pulled the carbs . It wasn't quite as bad as I imagined nor was it something I want to do daily. So now I'll be able to(I hope) see what is plugging 'em up. I am still waiting on brake parts.. should be here Monday.

Wayne

[Snaggletooth]

Hey mtman. Sounds like progress to me. Just remember that when you break down those carbs you do not need to split all the carbs for what you want to do. Remove the long side brackets (with the holes for the drain hoses) and disconnect the linkage rods for throttle and choke and you will be able separate the two sets of carbs to do most of what you need to do that way.

 

Leave the top brackets alone and on each sync'd set of carbs and it will save you some time and headaches getting things lined back up later.

 

If you decide to replace the net filters get with me later and I'll tell you what I can on that project and I have some new parts that may be useful if you go that route. God forbid. LOL!

 

Take a good look at the floats while you have them out to. Mine turned out to be the main culpit on my carb problems. Mark them as which carbs they came from and hang then up to dry in the sun for a couple of days if you can afford the time. When the carbs go back together you will need to set the float level and we can walk you through that.

 

Hang in there. You're moving forward.

 

Mike

[mtman]

Thanks Mike...

 

I also looked at the cables. The accel. cable has "venturisis", it's shreading. Gonna have to replace that one. The return cable and choke cable looked OK.

 

So now, having tried to read up on getting a fairing off... nada. Can't seem to find the how-to-do on 1st gen fairings. Can ya give a feller a hand? I saw some thing on 2nd gen but I don't think that'll work.

 

Wayne

[Guest mytquin007@aol.com]

make sure previous owner did not install self bleeder nipples

(ONE MAN) i did and in no time the holes in them cruded up so i had to take them out and re install old style bleeder nips

MIKE Q

[Snaggletooth]

Ok/ Done this a few times.

 

Side covers

Radiator side panels / with reflectors.

Lower vent panels and connector

Windshield trim.

Windshield.

Mirrors.

Head light cover panel.

Lower cowl intake under headlight

Front connector plate for halves under headlight.

Right side dash / top plate

RS panel and unplug CLASS

Left side / use key to remove sound system and lift out

LS remove dash panel.

Disconnect turn signals, hazard light switch and speakers.

Unbolt RS fairing half and remove.

Same with LS fairing half.

RS / inner panel / disconnect over flow lines from radiator reserve bottle.

Don't forget to hook it back up before running the motor ok.

Unbolt panel.

LS / unbolt sound system amp and unplug it and ant. wire.

Unbolt panel and remove.

 

That should get you naked and open it up to get to everything. If I missed anything I'm sure you'll see it as you work. The first few times I screwed all the bolts and screws back in where I took them out of to keep track of them but now I just use sandwich bags for each set of bolts and fittings for each section. That way I can have each set of hardware available as I reassemble the thing without a lot of digging.

 

The first time I tore her open I marked the wire connectors with colored electrcial tape so I wouldn't forget what went where. Yellow to yellow, blue to blue. Idiots safety tape. LOL!

 

Watch your wires when putting it back together so nothing gets pulled loose or pinched. Don't forget the turn signal plugs and the hazard lights. Doh! OK, it was just once!

 

Later

 

Mike

[mtman]

After 2 days steadily, methodically, and with many printed notes(from all my new found gurus), the carbs came off, got cleaned(I'd say what was in the floats but this is a family forum)and got re-installed. I had a little chat with my Father(the one upstairs), closed my eyes, closed the choke, hit the key/run and hit the start button. Turned 6-10 times and STARTED:sign woo hoo: Ran for about 20-30 seconds and died. Tried again and again it ran.... a little longer. Kept doing it... it kept running. Sounds like it needs the cobwebs blown out but its running. Still have to get the new plugs for it and let the sea foam finish its work. Also need to change oil, check water and put the brake system back together but after 2 weeks of struggles, IT RUNS.

I wish I could remember everyones name that helped me get here... this trip was not solo. Thanks to all of you:happy65:

Wayne

[mtman]

Finally got my brake parts. I went through one of your recommended bike shops. Wasn't real happy with that transaction; I'll leave it there. Also picked up a rear caliper from a feller on eBay. I spent a good long while staring at the caliper and decided I could make it fit. Did ya know a rear caliper off a 2007 RSV will work on a 86 venture? Anyway, got the master rebuilt, the rear caliper on and been trying to get the air out. Been trying to get the Lt front fairing off(Thanks for the instructions Snaggletooth). Gotta get the throttle cable changed(got one). The previous owner layed it down on that side and broke some of the fairing. Glued it back but also glued it to the top part(the radio holder part..with the speaker in it) so I been trying to get them apart. Been using a box cutter to cut thru the glue. Guess I'll be on the lookout for another left fairing and radio holder thingy. My temp homemade garage is disintegrating so I'm going to have to stop and deal with building something a little more permanent.

Wayne