RoadKill Posted June 20, 2008 Share #1 Posted June 20, 2008 I just received, a couple days ago my purchase from New Enough. I bought the Venture Air Mesh pants and Intake Air Series 2 Jacket. I am very pleased with New Enough's prices and shipping. Ordered it on Friday morning, got it on Tuesday. Also very pleased with my selection. Both jacket and pants have windproof/waterproof layer and a quilted insulated liner, as well as multiple sections of Armor and padding. The liners can be utilized together or seperately in any configuration or they can we worn without any liners. Its really working well for me as I can wear the liners when I leave at 3:30am for work, 55 degrees and then ride home with just the mesh when its reached 80+. If I had any complaint I guess it would be that the items do not store very compactly. I have to take the jacket in because it won't compress down small enough to fit in the bags or trunk along with the other things I carry. This wasn't a problem with my leathers. It seems to be the Armor that is causing the issue. So here is my question: Does the Armor really add significant protection or could you take it out? Thanks for the info/opinions in advance. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibvel Posted June 20, 2008 Share #2 Posted June 20, 2008 I just received, a couple days ago my purchase from New Enough. I bought the Venture Air Mesh pants and Intake Air Series 2 Jacket. I am very pleased with New Enough's prices and shipping. Ordered it on Friday morning, got it on Tuesday. Also very pleased with my selection. Both jacket and pants have windproof/waterproof layer and a quilted insulated liner, as well as multiple sections of Armor and padding. The liners can be utilized together or seperately in any configuration or they can we worn without any liners. Its really working well for me as I can wear the liners when I leave at 3:30am for work, 55 degrees and then ride home with just the mesh when its reached 80+. If I had any complaint I guess it would be that the items do not store very compactly. I have to take the jacket in because it won't compress down small enough to fit in the bags or trunk along with the other things I carry. This wasn't a problem with my leathers. It seems to be the Armor that is causing the issue. So here is my question: Does the Armor really add significant protection or could you take it out? Thanks for the info/opinions in advance. Jay Should be able to take the padding out. I would think that the padding helps substantially and wouldn't want to test it without it. To me, any advantage over the hard road is a good thing. Could see how easily it comes out and see if you want to take it out to store it separately and then put it back when needed, or if it's too much of a hassle to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumn1 Posted June 20, 2008 Share #3 Posted June 20, 2008 The armor adds protection, but the manufacturers do not tell you the level provided. They like to say "CE" approved armor, not the level 1, 2 or 3 (highest). The back pads in your jacket are not CE approved according to the description. Also, back pads offer the most dubious protection and in some places are not even recommended. If space is tight and it could fit without the back pad, you might want to consider this option. Most armor is removable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariner Fan Posted June 20, 2008 Share #4 Posted June 20, 2008 Hey Roadkill, That is the exact same coat that I'm thinking of getting. Let us know how it does keeping you cool in the hot weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadKill Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted June 20, 2008 Hey Roadkill, That is the exact same coat that I'm thinking of getting. Let us know how it does keeping you cool in the hot weather. Well so far its been great. I put it on before I walked to the bike leaving work yesterday and I was actually chilled from the air passing through. Then on the trip to my Mom's from work I was extremely comfortable. Didn't have the pants on, just the jacket. Thinking of wearing the pants over shorts on those really hot days. I'm sure at 90+ and 90% humidity you will still be hot. But I think I'm going to like it alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkboard Posted June 20, 2008 Share #6 Posted June 20, 2008 I bought the Joe Rocket Phoenix 4.0 jacket from New Enough this spring. I love it! The mesh does keep me cooler than bare arms in the direct sunshine. You don't want to stop for very long without taking it off, though. I have 1500 miles on the jacket now. When it is 90 degrees out in the sun, the jacket does'nt make it cooler, but when moving it helps. Kinda like sitting under a shade tree in the heat-- it's still hot, but the sun isn't burning you. The armor comes out, but it is not easy to get out. not something you want to do often. I removed the back padding/protector because it did not fit in the bags well. I also removed the shoulder pads. I left the elbow pads in for at least some protection. It has a zip in waterproof lining. This spring the jacket with liner, with a short sleeve shirt under it, was comfortable to about 48 degrees at highway speeds. 50 and below is now where I switch to leather. opinion-- great jacket New Enough.com great service, excellent price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timk Posted June 20, 2008 Share #7 Posted June 20, 2008 Buy one of those cable locks. I put the cable thru the sleeve(or both when my wife is with me), and around antwhere on the motorcycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JGorom Posted June 21, 2008 Share #8 Posted June 21, 2008 So here is my question: Does the Armor really add significant protection or could you take it out? Thanks for the info/opinions in advance. Jay Hey Jay...It's only important if you dump your bike. But seriously...I have taken some of the armor out of my jacket...and it will hurt if I go down and land or skid on a section of clothing where I took it out. If I had any complaint I guess it would be that the items do not store very compactly. I have to take the jacket in because it won't compress down small enough to fit in the bags or trunk along with the other things I carry. This wasn't a problem with my leathers. Sounds like you might also need a trailer also to haul all that armor. Sorry Jay...I couldn't resist that one...it's been a long hard day for me...please forgive me...for I know not what I do here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadKill Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share #9 Posted June 21, 2008 Sounds like you might also need a trailer also to haul all that armor. Sorry Jay...I couldn't resist that one...it's been a long hard day for me...please forgive me...for I know not what I do here. Been telling the mistress of finance that for 2 years so I will tell you say so too! :rotf:I'm sure that will make the difference. So far I've only found that the knee armour on the pants is truly removeable, but really haven't had time to look alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadKill Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share #10 Posted June 21, 2008 Ok, just went out and checked. The jacket Armour is removable. I took that back pad out and that may solve my problem. I'll give it a try later today. Thanks for all the suggestions. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardbog Posted June 21, 2008 Share #11 Posted June 21, 2008 Try to clean junk from sadlebags, and trunk. I Can fit 2 tour master Pivot jackets with armor in trunk only. Ventire pants with armor will fit in sadlebag. They are little bulki, but that's a price for protection. sometime, i use bungee net ,a nd secure jacket or pants on passanger sit, or logage rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightventure Posted November 8, 2008 Share #12 Posted November 8, 2008 When I crashed all my broken ribs where in the back. I won't ride very far without armor in the back area now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariner Fan Posted November 8, 2008 Share #13 Posted November 8, 2008 Jay is right about the coats being hard to store. I can put it in my trunk and I think I've jammed it in the saddlebag but it was hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerCPO Posted November 8, 2008 Share #14 Posted November 8, 2008 When I crashed all my broken ribs where in the back. I won't ride very far without armor in the back area now. I crashed also in July and busted 4 ribs on my left side. My Doc steered me to a Rib Protector made by ADAMS. Now my ribs on both sides are well protected. The rib protector will do more for you than armor in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hig4s Posted November 8, 2008 Share #15 Posted November 8, 2008 I have the same outfit, and not sure how much you are carrying but I fold the jacket up and put it in my side bag all the the time. I manage in one side bag to get all 4 liners, a small first aid kit, a small tool kit, several microfiber rags, and a bunch of real small stuff like zip-lock bags, rubber bands, zip ties and stuff, then add my jacket and Zumo 550 when I stop. I love the jacket, prior to this one used several depending on the weather and it was a real pain on a trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharnie Posted December 9, 2008 Share #16 Posted December 9, 2008 The reason I am reading this thread is result of googling TOUR MASTER VENTURE AIR MOTORCYCLE PANTS. I am 4 1/2 weeks from a slide on the asphalt. My leathers & helmet saved my skin 360 all around. Only tear in jacket was double stitched seam @ right elbow but no rash to elbow. Something penetrated my Left elbow but jacket is OK there. Armor @ the leather elbows would have pevented my puncture wound and prevented both elbows from hurting so bad from the impact & turning several different colors this past month! Both my legs had extensive road rash but the knees got the worst. I am still bandaging the right knee. My new ankle high "riding" boots were NOT at all adequate since I have a busted up left foot because the boot got ripped off! I ordered a black/white leather "racing" jacket with armor and it looks great! But it is going back. Not 1 seam is double stitched. I set both jackets together and see where the new one might fail me some unfortunate day and maybe even worse and it weights a ton! Now I have a Tourmaster summer weight air mesh with armor and liners on the way & was looking at several air mesh over-pants. Just want to stay away from any polyester/plastic products which will melt into the skin - and there are lots of those out there too! As I sit here on my butt and read and read and read and search I am upgrading all my riding gear and will be using the ARMOR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinto Posted December 10, 2008 Share #17 Posted December 10, 2008 Having had an accident a few years ago, thrown from the bike at 45 mph, I would not recommend removing any armor from your gear. After all that's the entire point of riding gear, optimum protection from weather and road. I also have the Tourmaster Intake for warm weather plus an armored leather jacket for cold weather. It all fits into the left saddlebag along with my bungee cords. The trunk and right saddlebag is for everything else. Mostly my wife's essentials. Anyway, I really recommend making room for all the armor, instead of wishing it was there while flying through pitch black space wondering when and on what I will land on. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightventure Posted December 17, 2008 Share #18 Posted December 17, 2008 I have also bounced down the highway at high speed. All my broken ribs were in the area covered by the back pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponch Posted December 17, 2008 Share #19 Posted December 17, 2008 From a rider who used to refuse to wear a helmet or safety clothes, I say dress for the crash and ride longer. Those pads offer protection. As said, the foam back pad may not be the best crash protection, but its better than the jacket alone. Ride Safe Bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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